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The Pat Kenny Show

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    #6662
    EmmetSpiceland
    Registered Users Posts: 10,641 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    BPKS wrote: »
    I just thought it was a ridiculous suggestion Mr Quinn wanting to have the churches open for mass when the vast majority of parishioners are those most at risk from the virus.

    It’s not that ridiculous for him, really. Him and his “crowd” don’t really care too much about human life once it’s outside the womb.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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    #6663
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    What the hell has happened to phone lines? Is everyone on flaky wireless connections these days?


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    #6664
    crossman47
    Registered Users Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭crossman47


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    What the hell has happened to phone lines? Is everyone on flaky wireless connections these days?

    What?????


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    #6665
    southstar
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭southstar


    It wasnt me123 wrote: »
    But he isn't a political figure - he isn't elected, he doesn't have political views, he has rigid religious views and I for one think he gets way too much air time.
    He's not elected. .so what...????Is that the new criterion for offering a view on a public issue on the radio..he holds views which I suspect many Irish people share....whether that's suits you or not.Stop with this self righteous entitled nonsense...it only offers ammunition to the people you disagree with.Yes there should be limits to extremists ...but David Quinn however deluded and irritating is not an extremist


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    #6666
    It wasnt me123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭It wasnt me123


    southstar wrote: »
    He's not elected. .so what...????Is that the new criterion for offering a view on a public issue on the radio..he holds views which I suspect many Irish people share....whether that's suits you or not.Stop with this self righteous entitled nonsense...it only offers ammunition to the people you disagree with.Yes there should be limits to extremists ...but David Quinn however deluded and irritating is not an extremist

    I was answering a post that said he is just like other policitians .....

    I said he's not a politician - that was it

    Calm down and breathe .....


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    #6667
    jay0109
    Registered Users Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭jay0109


    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    It’s not that ridiculous for him, really. Him and his “crowd” don’t really care too much about human life once it’s outside the womb.
    That's some great insight there, well done you :rolleyes:


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    #6668
    DrGreenThumb82
    Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭DrGreenThumb82


    Unbearable Trump whining alert

    Christ you'd swear he was our president the way they are crying about him.


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    #6669
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Does Healy actually get paid for that:pac:


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    #6670
    Ol' Donie
    Registered Users Posts: 19,603 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Well, I'll be having fish and chips tonight. That's all I know for sure.


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    #6671
    monstermag
    Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭monstermag


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Seriously? :rolleyes:

    Debate over


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    #6672
    Technocentral
    Registered Users Posts: 6,102 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    This guy is speaking total common sense, we need to get to zero cases before opening up more.


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    #6673
    prunudo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Technocentral wrote: »
    This guy is speaking total common sense, we need to get to zero cases before opening up more.

    He must not be aware where the government get the money to fund his cushy number as a university professor.


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    #6674
    Technocentral
    Registered Users Posts: 6,102 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    prunudo wrote: »
    He must not be aware where the government get the money to fund his cushy number as a university professor.

    Right Wing clap trap.


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    #6675
    generalgerry
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭generalgerry


    Technocentral wrote: »
    This guy is speaking total common sense, we need to get to zero cases before opening up more.

    Ridiculous, only people who get paid their full wage through this "crisis" would suggest something like this. They have the luxury to make these suggestions, and let the rest of us rot.


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    #6676
    prunudo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Technocentral wrote: »
    Right Wing clap trap.

    No tax take = no funding, considering these are supposedly smart people I'm surprised they can't see the bigger picture.


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    #6677
    generalgerry
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭generalgerry


    Barrack Obama is really worried about the disappearing coastline is he?

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    #6678
    serfboard
    Registered Users Posts: 4,680 ✭✭✭serfboard


    prunudo wrote: »
    No tax take = no funding, considering these are supposedly smart people I'm surprised they can't see the bigger picture.
    How many of your vulnerable relatives are you willing to sacrifice for the "bigger picture"?


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    #6679
    prunudo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭prunudo


    serfboard wrote: »
    How many of your vulnerable relatives are you willing to sacrifice for the "bigger picture"?

    I'm far more worried about them getting other ailments than covid. A stricter and longer lockdown is not the answer.


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    #6680
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,525 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    prunudo wrote: »
    I'm far more worried about them getting other ailments than covid. A stricter and longer lockdown is not the answer.

    Why do you think the medical professionals involved in advising the government disagree with you?

    Do you think their concern for peoples health only extends to whether or not they suffer from covid-19?

    The government is haemorrhaging money on support payments, while seeing a vastly reduced revenue received.
    Surely the 'easy' thing for them to do would be to have a much more concise relaxation of restrictions if that were in any way possible.


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    #6681
    coolshannagh28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Why do you think the medical professionals involved in advising the government disagree with you?

    Do you think their concern for peoples health only extends to whether or not they suffer from covid-19?

    The government is haemorrhaging money on support payments, while seeing a vastly reduced revenue received.
    Surely the 'easy' thing for them to do would be to have a much more concise relaxation of restrictions if that were in any way possible.

    As we essentially have a government without a mandate , this gives the medical professionals the upper hand in any negotiations around the relaxation of restrictions , we urgently need a government and a National Government should have been formed when the crisis kicked off.


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    #6682
    Ahwell
    Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Ahwell


    coolshannagh28 wrote: »
    As we essentially have a government without a mandate , this gives the medical professionals the upper hand in any negotiations around the relaxation of restrictions , we urgently need a government and a National Government should have been formed when the crisis kicked off.

    Why would the medical professionals want the upper hand? What do you think their motivation is?


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    #6683
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,525 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    coolshannagh28 wrote: »
    As we essentially have a government without a mandate , this gives the medical professionals the upper hand in any negotiations around the relaxation of restrictions , we urgently need a government and a National Government should have been formed when the crisis kicked off.

    Are you saying medical professionals should not have the upper hand at a time of the greatest pandemic in 100 years? Surely, if they hadn't there would be greater complaints about non-qualified government members making decisions on medical matters.

    Also, irrespective of this point, what's your take on this question I asked already.

    Do you think their (the medical professionals) concern for peoples health only extends to whether or not they suffer from covid-19?


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    #6684
    coolshannagh28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Are you saying medical professionals should not have the upper hand at a time of the greatest pandemic in 100 years? Surely, if they hadn't there would be greater complaints about non-qualified government members making decisions on medical matters.

    Also, irrespective of this point, what's your take on this question I asked already.

    Do you think their (the medical professionals) concern for peoples health only extends to whether or not they suffer from covid-19?

    I am ambivalent really but I do feel that a properly mandated government would have more confidence in its decisionmaking , there is a body of opinion out there which feels the restrictions should be relaxed more quickly and Im sure this is reflected in the cabinet.


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    #6685
    monstermag
    Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭monstermag


    What's the story with the love in between Pat and Alastair Campbell?
    He had a right good go at Cummings and Bojo this morning. Yes Cummings screwed up and Bojo may be a clown but has Pat forgotten that Campbell in his role as Tony Blairs spin Doctor sexed up a dossier that hoodwinked the British people into believing that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, we all know how that turned out. Indeed one the world's leading weapons experts Dr David Kelly committed suicide as a result of the whole affair.
    A but who cares about all that caper, brush it under the carpet and let Alastair drag out the old bagpipes and all is forgiven.
    Pat must be saving his interrogation skills for the likes of Edwina Currie


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    #6686
    Topgear on Dave
    Registered Users Posts: 4,545 ✭✭✭Topgear on Dave


    +1 Dominic Cummings is a clown but how in the holy hell is Alistair Campbell still taken seriously.


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    #6687
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users Posts: 16,242 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    prunudo wrote: »
    I'm far more worried about them getting other ailments than covid.

    Seriously? If you had an elderly relative with say hypertension or asthma, you reckon there are ailments out there more likely to kill them within the next few weeks if they got it?


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    #6688
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    Is there something wrong with Newstalks phone system? Constant bad quality calls, or is it only with people Pat Kenny disagrees with?


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    #6689
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Why do you think the medical professionals involved in advising the government disagree with you?

    Do you think their concern for peoples health only extends to whether or not they suffer from covid-19?

    The government is haemorrhaging money on support payments, while seeing a vastly reduced revenue received.
    Surely the 'easy' thing for them to do would be to have a much more concise relaxation of restrictions if that were in any way possible.

    medics looks at this entirely and exclusively through the sphere of preventing the spread , the broader picture doesnt come into it for them, beit economic devestation or anything else , thats not me having a go , its just how doctors think


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    #6690
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Seriously? If you had an elderly relative with say hypertension or asthma, you reckon there are ailments out there more likely to kill them within the next few weeks if they got it?

    restrictions can be lifted without compromising the health of the elderly with underlying conditions , both us and them will need to avoid each other however

    those who work in the nursing homes should have had their wages trebled back in march but they should have been made to live on site for three months , no different to oil rig workers , no body different goes in or out


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    #6691
    Tell me how
    Registered Users Posts: 21,525 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    medics looks at this entirely and exclusively through the sphere of preventing the spread , the broader picture doesnt come into it for them, beit economic devestation or anything else , thats not me having a go , its just how doctors think

    Then specifically, which was the question I asked the original poster, do you think medical personnel are only concerned whether people suffer as a result of covid-19 and not other ailments?

    Because that seemed to be the implication.


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