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The Pat Kenny Show

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    #3002
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Was thinking of switching from todayfm, will stay where I am for now


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    #3003
    ThisRegard
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    PeterTheNinth wrote: »
    More man bashing for Newstalk.

    It was a good piece of radio. The way things are these days with 'boys', I wouldn't call them men, and how they behave around women really needs to be sorted.


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    #3004
    Pedalare Pedalare!
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    Yeah, don't think that series can be criticised as 'man bashing'. They kept coming back to male victims as well. Just because they're talking about crimes against women doesn't make it a 'man vs woman' thing. Had it on in the car on the way to work. Some appalling stuff in it - great radio though. Do they do many series like that?


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    #3005
    Roger_007
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    Pedalare Pedalare! wrote: »
    Yeah, don't think that series can be criticised as 'man bashing'. They kept coming back to male victims as well. Just because they're talking about crimes against women doesn't make it a 'man vs woman' thing. Had it on in the car on the way to work. Some appalling stuff in it - great radio though. Do they do many series like that?

    I think that this is appalling radio. All we hear is one side of each story. We have no idea if we are hearing the full truth, or any truth at all. Even when some of these cases go to court, we are not allowed to know what happens as most of cases are held 'in camera'.
    The media, including current affairs radio, are only interested in grabbing headlines. They are not interested in examining the complexities of cases.
    This is tabloid radio at its worst.


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    #3006
    Calhoun
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    PeterTheNinth wrote: »
    More man bashing for Newstalk. Repeat after me: "All men are b*stards, and all women are made from sugar and spice and all things nice".

    Indeed the anti-male bias is strong the past few weeks, i switched off this morning after a while.

    As point out already its one sided radio, seemingly designed to paint men and the court system as the devil. Some of the statements especially about the judges ect were crazy.

    Don't get me wrong some of the accounts are harrowing but there is no way i can take it as serious as it needs when its unbalanced in its reporting.


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    #3007
    Pedalare Pedalare!
    Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭Pedalare Pedalare!


    I don't know. I think that's more than a bit much to say it's "anti male" to take on domestic violence and violence against women. It's not a Men vs Women issue. I think it's just one we've never really taken seriously. Stuff like the lack of services in rural areas and the lack of refuges are a total scandal.

    I digress though. Matter of opinion. I just thought it was worth the series.

    Anyway, is Healy in for the week or is it one day only?
    Calhoun wrote: »
    Indeed the anti-male bias is strong the past few weeks, i switched off this morning after a while.

    As point out already its one sided radio, seemingly designed to paint men and the court system as the devil. Some of the statements especially about the judges ect were crazy.

    Don't get me wrong some of the accounts are harrowing but there is no way i can take it as serious as it needs when its unbalanced in its reporting.


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    #3008
    Calhoun
    Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Pedalare Pedalare! wrote: »
    I don't know. I think that's more than a bit much to say it's "anti male" to take on domestic violence and violence against women. It's not a Men vs Women issue. I think it's just one we've never really taken seriously. Stuff like the lack of services in rural areas and the lack of refuges are a total scandal.

    I digress though. Matter of opinion. I just thought it was worth the series.

    Anyway, is Healy in for the week or is it one day only?

    On its own I would agree with you it's a topic that needs to be tackled but the lack of balance on it and the general rethoric of late from irish media not just newstalk is crazy.

    If it's not mem versus women then I am not sure why a wide spectrum of victims from both side of the sexes weren't selected.


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    #3009
    PeterTheNinth
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    Calhoun wrote: »
    Indeed the anti-male bias is strong the past few weeks, i switched off this morning after a while.

    The thing that really bothers me is that if the references / allusions to men were made about any other group, Newstalk and Dil from Victim Village would be up in arms... It seems that these victim groups are only interested in victims when they can cite the victim's case when looking for further attention (and funding).


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    #3010
    Calhoun
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    PeterTheNinth wrote: »
    The thing that really bothers me is that if the references / allusions to men were made about any other group, Newstalk and Dil from Victim Village would be up in arms... It seems that these victim groups are only interested in victims when they can cite the victim's case when looking for further attention (and funding).

    Indeed what kind of inclusive society can we have when on sex is demonised in the press. Say if you were actually a male victim of domestic abuse I can tell you that after the coverage you would be very cautious about reporting it.


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    ThisRegard
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    Roger_007 wrote: »
    I think that this is appalling radio. All we hear is one side of each story. We have no idea if we are hearing the full truth,

    They all must walk in to doors so. (In fairness I didn't hear this mornings piece)
    Calhoun wrote: »
    On its own I would agree with you it's a topic that needs to be tackled but the lack of balance on it and the general rethoric of late from irish media not just newstalk is crazy.

    If it's not mem versus women then I am not sure why a wide spectrum of victims from both side of the sexes weren't selected.

    Because far, far more women are abused by men, there's no balance in the number of men vs the number of women abused. And you do hear segments on current affairs show in which men come on and speak of their experiences. But men are also less likely to publicly declare they're abused.


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    #3012
    Calhoun
    Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    They all must walk in to doors so. (In fairness I didn't hear this mornings piece)



    Because far, far more women are abused by men, there's no balance in the number of men vs the number of women abused. And you do hear segments on current affairs show in which men come on and speak of their experiences. But men are also less likely to publicly declare they're abused.

    From the texts coming in as a response to these segments it looks like there are a good few men out there that would come forward with it. Either poorly researched or not bothered.

    Either way we want a society that takes it seriously but only part of it.


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    #3013
    Mc Love
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    Looks like Jonathan has taken over from Alison Curtis, breastfeeding and childbirth on the agenda :D:D


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    ThisRegard
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    Calhoun wrote: »
    From the texts coming in as a response to these segments it looks like there are a good few men out there that would come forward with it. Either poorly researched or not bothered.

    Either way we want a society that takes it seriously but only part of it.

    I never said there were none. I don't see why people are getting the hump over it.


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    #3015
    Calhoun
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    I never said there were none. I don't see why people are getting the hump over it.

    I would assume its to do with the long stream of men are bastard agenda by the progressive liberal media of late.


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    #3016
    ThisRegard
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    If that's how you want to read into things, so be it.


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    #3017
    PeterTheNinth
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    "and NEVER judge".

    Healy, of course, being the most judgmental person in broadcasting


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    #3018
    Calhoun
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    If that's how you want to read into things, so be it.

    I will indeed thanks :)


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    #3019
    keno-daytrader
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    How on earth is Jonathan Healy allowed to fill in for Pat? Hes awful!

    ☀️ 6.72kWp ⚡2.52kWp south, ⚡4.20kWp west



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    #3020
    Del.Monte
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    keno-daytrader wrote: »
    How on earth is Jonathan Healy allowed to fill in for Pat? Hes awful!

    The only difference between them is their salaries.

    ****



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    #3021
    Loafing Oaf
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    keno-daytrader wrote: »
    How on earth is Jonathan Healy allowed to fill in for Pat? Hes awful!

    Shows the crippling shallowness of the Newstalk bench. Shane Coleman was the utility supersub but he's got a place in the first team now...


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    #3022
    Ayuntamiento
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    What is this sh*te that I'm listening to about post? Christ.


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    #3023
    Pedalare Pedalare!
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    Ayuntamiento wrote: »
    What is this sh*te that I'm listening to about post? Christ.

    Seems silly season has set in. Come back Pat!


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    #3024
    Howitzer the 5th
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    An undignified week for Communicorp. Jonathan Healy and Alison Curtis. Sweet suffering Jesus! What miscreants run radio in Ireland these days.
    Pedalare Pedalare! wrote: »
    Seems silly season has set in. Come back Pat!


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    #3025
    PeterTheNinth
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    keno-daytrader wrote: »
    How on earth is Jonathan Healy allowed to fill in for Pat? Hes awful!

    Awful is the word. Every time I switch over, his usual facetious dramatics.. nothing but populist, smart ar$e asides about anybody who isn't popular with the liberals. Like I said before, the guy needs to be taken away and given a lobotomy of his on air personality.


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    #3026
    Marcusm
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    PeterTheNinth wrote: »
    Awful is the word. Every time I switch over, his usual facetious dramatics.. nothing but populist, smart ar$e asides about anybody who isn't popular with the liberals. Like I said before, the guy needs to be taken away and given a lobotomy of his on air personality.

    Peter

    the ultimate dilemma, Paul Williams or Jonathan Healy?


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    #3027
    Callan57
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    Marcusm wrote: »
    Peter

    the ultimate dilemma, Paul Williams or Jonathan Healy?


    There's a lot to be said for Lyric :):)


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    #3028
    PeterTheNinth
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    Marcusm wrote: »
    Peter..the ultimate dilemma, Paul Williams or Jonathan Healy?

    The real question is why is the bar so low. Is it that hard to find presenters?


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    #3029
    Paddy Porter
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    Genuinely puzzled at the antipathy towards Healy...he is OK in this posters opinion ...and a lot better than most ..


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    #3030
    Aidric
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    Paddy Porter wrote: »
    Genuinely puzzled at the antipathy towards Healy...he is OK in this posters opinion ...and a lot better than most ..

    'better than most'? I'd be worried if that's the case. Listened today to a podcast of his interview with the documentary maker and fisherman about the plight of the Irish fishing industry. I left it as exacerbated as the interviewees sounded.

    The sound logic put forward by the interviewees should have set the scene for those of a logical disposition. Healy, however, seemed to carry an agenda in to the interview on behalf of nobody in particular.

    This for me is his failing. He purports to speak on behalf of somebody, who that somebody is is anyone's guess. I'm inclined to think it's on behalf of the massive chip he carries on his shoulder.

    He'd be better served as a phone in host/patsy on local radio.


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    #3031
    For Forks Sake
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    This is what comes to mind every time Healy starts into one of his oh-so-predictable sob stories...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yz4pcPyY2I


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