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Qualifiers Rounds 3 and 4

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    #62
    leonidas83
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭leonidas83


    Poor_old_gill wrote: »
    Galway may well give Armagh a good game but you'd have to fancy Armagh to win by about 6-10 points.

    I think every team is out to prove a point in the games they play but Galway's form I very poor- a hammering off Mayo and narrow wins against Tipp and Waterford.
    I can only assume that you're basing your opinion on tradition

    I'd fancy Mayo to give Armagh a hammering too if they played them. I think home advantage & yes, a pride in their history will spur this Galway team to give Armagh a good match. Definitely dont think Armagh will win by 6/8 points anyways. Whatever about Galway this will be Armagh's first real test since they lost to Cavan too & that was a very bad result against a very average team from Cavan. I definitely dont think Armagh are as good as some people are suggesting on this thread.

    Derry have beaten Down & Sligo in the qualifiers already & beaten them well. Beating Down is not to be underestimated imo, they're division 1 standard & came very close to beating Donegal, perhaps if they were more clinical they would have won that match. Cavan have only really beaten Fermanagh again at home


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    #63
    Poor_old_gill
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    leonidas83 wrote: »
    I'd fancy Mayo to give Armagh a hammering too if they played them. I think home advantage & yes, a pride in their history will spur this Galway team to give Armagh a good match. Definitely dont think Armagh will win by 6/8 points anyways. Whatever about Galway this will be Armagh's first real test since they lost to Cavan too & that was a very bad result against a very average team from Cavan. I definitely dont think Armagh are as good as some people are suggesting on this thread.

    Derry have beaten Down & Sligo in the qualifiers already & beaten them well. Beating Down is not to be underestimated imo, they're division 1 standard & came very close to beating Donegal, perhaps if they were more clinical they would have won that match. Cavan have only really beaten Fermanagh again at home

    I guess we are discussing a scenario that we will soon know the answer to!

    Galway could well give Armagh a good game- same as Roscommon can give Tyrone a good game (when you'd expect Tyrone to win comfortably).

    To be honest I hope that Galway do give them a good game- went to college and worked in Galway so have always had a soft spot for them- but they have been awful for a while now and I'm sure there is pride there but pride is useless without the right temperament.

    I'd be shocked if Armagh didn't win by more than 5


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    #64
    Tom Joad
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    leonidas83 wrote: »
    a very average team from Cavan.

    Cavan have only really beaten Fermanagh again at home
    leonidas83 wrote: »
    Put a couple a hundred on Derry to bate the sh** out of Cavan, only guaranteed result of this round

    Spill the beans there - did somebody from Cavan cop off with your sister of something in Coppers - serious grudge going on there :rolleyes:


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    #65
    Dots1982
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    Amprodude wrote: »
    Look it up again. Its 2011 actually last time they didnt make the semis. They lost to Mayo in quarter finals badly.


    Fair enough, they came up one game short of the semis one year. Still wouldn't say of Cork that they are the type of team to lose unexpectedly.


    As for the Cork only winning one All Ireland. They should have won the 2009 final. First of all Kenneally should have been sent off in the first minute and second of all they just should have won because Kerry outfoxed them tactically but Cork were the more dominant side. That's the way I saw it anyway.

    Cork will still cruise into the QFs this year but doubt they will make semis.


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    #66
    leonidas83
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    Tom Joad wrote: »
    Spill the beans there - did somebody from Cavan cop off with your sister of something in Coppers - serious grudge going on there :rolleyes:

    Dont have a sister. I know Sh*te when I see SH*TE. It just so happens that cavan are just that


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    #67
    Lemlin
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    leonidas83 wrote: »
    Dont have a sister. I know Sh*te when I see SH*TE. It just so happens that cavan are just that

    They're into the last 16 and fully deserve their place there.

    We're not fooling ourselves thinking we're world beaters, even the manager has said we're far from the finished article.

    But this is his first year in charge and, with a team whose oldest player is 27, and the majority of which are 20 to 24, we're going better than expected.


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    #68
    Tom Joad
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    leonidas83 wrote: »
    Dont have a sister. I know Sh*te when I see SH*TE. It just so happens that cavan are just that

    Wow what an eloquent and well thought out post - there is no comeback to that :rolleyes:


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    #69
    leonidas83
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    Lemlin wrote: »
    They're into the last 16 and fully deserve their place there.

    We're not fooling ourselves thinking we're world beaters, even the manager has said we're far from the finished article.

    But this is his first year in charge and, with a team whose oldest player is 27, and the majority of which are 20 to 24, we're going better than expected.

    BATEING A SH*TE FERMANAGH TWICE & GETTING A POXY RESULT AGAINST ARMAGH MAINLY BECAUSE THEIR MANAGER IS A F*CKING IDIOT OF THE HIGHEST ORDER. Thats what Cavan have achieved this year, I wouldnt be writing home about it


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    #70
    leonidas83
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    Tom Joad wrote: »
    Wow what an eloquent and well thought out post - there is no comeback to that :rolleyes:

    Thanks, much appreciated


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    #71
    Tom Joad
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    I'm actually honoured that you are now trolling Cavan - it must mean we are getting somewhere - wasn't it Mayo that you were trolling here until they humiliated you this summer :).


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    #72
    leonidas83
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    Tom Joad wrote: »
    I'm actually honoured that you are now trolling Cavan - it must mean we are getting somewhere - wasn't it Mayo that you were trolling here until they humiliated you this summer :).

    Mayo are about to win a very weak connacht championship, yah real humiliation for me. We'll see who's humuliated come the latter stages of the championship when they sh*t their pants again. No trolling going on here either, if you want to pm me to continue this conversation I'd be happy to do so.


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    #73
    Tom Joad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Tom Joad


    leonidas83 wrote: »
    if you want to pm me to continue this conversation I'd be happy to do so.

    Nah you're ok but seriously thanks for the offer..;)


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    #74
    leonidas83
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭leonidas83


    Tom Joad wrote: »
    Nah you're ok but seriously thanks for the offer..;)

    No probs, anytime sweetcheeks;)


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    #75
    Johner
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    leonidas83 wrote: »
    Derry have beaten Down & Sligo in the qualifiers already & beaten them well. Beating Down is not to be underestimated imo, they're division 1 standard & came very close to beating Donegal, perhaps if they were more clinical they would have won that match. Cavan have only really beaten Fermanagh again at home

    Derry also lost to Down you know? Cavan have beaten Fermanagh and Armagh and lost narrowly to Monaghan but yet you think Derry's achievement of beating Sligo a team who lost to London is something to shout about. Derry are favourites and the bookies odds are about right but your obvious dislike for Cavan means you are talking bollox. What odds would you be willing to give on a Cavan win? Bookies have them around 15/8.
    leonidas83 wrote: »
    BATEING A SH*TE FERMANAGH TWICE & GETTING A POXY RESULT AGAINST ARMAGH MAINLY BECAUSE THEIR MANAGER IS A F*CKING IDIOT OF THE HIGHEST ORDER. Thats what Cavan have achieved this year, I wouldnt be writing home about it


    Fermanagh and Armagh while no world beaters aren't sh*te. It's obvious you don't like Cavan for whatever reason, but please stop talking absolute shite.


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    #76
    leonidas83
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    Johner wrote: »
    Derry also lost to Down you know? Cavan have beaten Fermanagh and Armagh and lost narrowly to Monaghan but yet you think Derry's achievement of beating Sligo a team who lost to London is something to shout about. Derry are favourites and the bookies odds are about right but your obvious dislike for Cavan means you are talking bollox. What odds would you be willing to give on a Cavan win? Bookies have them around 15/8.




    Fermanagh and Armagh while no world beaters aren't sh*te. It's obvious you don't like Cavan for whatever reason, but please stop talking absolute shite.

    I'd give Cavan odds of about 20/1 & you can get up the fu*king yard with your delusional posts


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    #77
    intellectual dosser
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    leonidas83 wrote: »
    I'd give Cavan odds of about 1/20 & you can get up the fu*king yard with your delusional posts

    I think you mean 20/1

    Out of interest, are you taking your own advice and putting hundreds on Derry?


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    #78
    Flukey
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    leonidas83 wrote: »
    No probs, anytime sweetcheeks;)

    You guys should meet in Coppers! Tom and Johner can bring a sister, or a fine thing from Cavan. You can then whisper sweet nothings, or match results, into each other's ears.:)


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    #79
    klairondavis
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    leonidas83 wrote: »
    I'd give Cavan odds of about 1/20 & you can get up the fu*king yard with your delusional posts

    1/20?

    Wow. That's really sticking your neck out there.


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    #80
    Johner
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    leonidas83 wrote: »
    I'd give Cavan odds of about 1/20 & you can get up the fu*king yard with your delusional posts

    Delusional? Like I said Derry are favourites and are the most likely winners but I don't think its as clear cut as you think. Nothing delusional about that. And 1/20? :pac: What odds would you make Derry so. :pac:


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    #81
    leonidas83
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    intellectual dosser wrote: »
    I think you mean 20/1

    Out of interest, are you taking your own advice and putting hundreds on Derry?

    Ill put about 150 to 200 on them, ill get a good return for that amount when they win.


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    #82
    Hammer Archer
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    leonidas83, any more posts similar to the ones of the past few hours will result in you being banned.


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    #83
    Johner
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    I'll have a tenner on at those odds of 20/1 so. :pac: Don't ever become a bookie.


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    #84
    Flukey
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    leonidas83 wrote: »
    Ill put about 150 to 200 on them, ill get a good return for that amount when they win.

    Is that euro or cents, tiddlywinks counters or maybe potatoes? What about the rest of the championship, where would your stakes be going?


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    #85
    leonidas83
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭leonidas83


    Johner wrote: »
    I'll have a tenner on at those odds of 20/1 so. :pac: Don't ever become a bookie.

    ok lads we'll have to agree to disagree about the result:D No dislike for Cavan, I just dont rate them highly as a football team, wish ye the best of luck & hopefully the best team will win.


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    #86
    leonidas83
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    Flukey wrote: »
    Is that euro or cents, tiddlywinks counters or maybe potatoes? What about the rest of the championship, where would your stakes be going?

    cents, sure im big time havent ya heard:). Fancy a Dublin v Donegal final with Dublin winning, they have by far the strongest panel in the championship imo. Mayo will possibly make it to the semis but then do the usual & I fancy Kerry to make it to the other semi.


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    #87
    Johner
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    leonidas83 wrote: »
    ok lads we'll have to agree to disagree about the result:D No dislike for Cavan, I just dont rate them highly as a football team, wish ye the best of luck & hopefully the best team will win.

    As I said Derry are the most likely winners but if you were giving odds of 20/1 on a Cavan win then that is value as thats 20/1 odds on a 15/8 shot. I think Cavan are a young improving team who have had a great season so far and there will be no shame losing to Derry but I do think they will give them a good game, a Cavan win wouldn't be the biggest upset in the world either. I'm not from Cavan either but it's not hard to see that they are a decent young team that will only get better.


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    #88
    leonidas83
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    Johner wrote: »
    As I said Derry are the most likely winners but if you were giving odds of 20/1 on a Cavan win then that is value as thats 20/1 odds on a 15/8 shot. I think Cavan are a young improving team who have had a great season so far and there will be no shame losing to Derry but I do think they will give them a good game, a Cavan win wouldn't be the biggest upset in the world either. I'm not from Cavan either but it's not hard to see that they are a decent young team that will only get better.

    A Cavan win would be the biggest upset of the round imo & possibly of all the qualifiers so far. As for the odds they might aswell be 30/1 as I cant see anyway Cavan will come out of Derry with a win.


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    #89
    Padkir
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    leonidas83 wrote: »
    Mayo will possibly make it to the semis but then do the usual & I fancy Kerry to make it to the other semi.

    To be honest, Mayo probably have as good of a record in semi finals as anyone, better than most in fact. It's the finals we have problems in.

    Hard to look past Dublin this year.


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    keane2097
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    leonidas83 wrote: »
    A Cavan win would be the biggest upset of the round imo & possibly of all the qualifiers so far. As for the odds they might aswell be 30/1 as I cant see anyway Cavan will come out of Derry with a win.

    I'll escrow up to 5K if you want to put your money where your mouth is?


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    #91
    leonidas83
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭leonidas83


    keane2097 wrote: »
    I'll escrow up to 5K if you want to put your money where your mouth is?

    yah no bother, fire ahead


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