The Jobbridge Scandal

shruikan2553

billy the squid wrote: »

INTE 842704

The absence of anything identifying the company is telling

I would love some sandwich making skills. Last time I tried to make one I ended up with a lasagna.

Xenji

I know of a good few people who have received letters from the Social that are basically advertisements for internships that may be of interest to them due to the skillset they have, but every letter would not give the company name, it just said private company and would give no phone number or address either.

JONJO THE MISER

Xenji wrote: »

We usually bring them out for a fancy lunch and get them a card and a bottle of wine the day they are finishing, they are also welcome to come in and use the photocopiers, scanners, printers ect after they have finished as well.

Why ye sure a good masters, yes sir.

cloudatlas

Nuts102 wrote: »

Why should the staff have a whip around it;s not them getting free labour. The owner should stick his hands in his pocket not the staff.

I know that's why I said 'At least'. If I was working somewhere getting full pay I'd feel bad about someone working for a fraction of my earnings.

mikeym

billy the squid wrote: »

INTE 842704

The absence of anything identifying the company is telling

Can the intern eat the sandwiches??

Xenji

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Why ye sure a good masters, yes sir.

Sure due to the hiring moratorium in the Council we cannot hire them in the end anyway, not sure why as I read that I put on the voice in my head as well :pac:

shruikan2553

mikeym wrote: »

Can the intern eat the sandwiches??

If its in dunnes it could work in their favour. 8k payout

AlwaysAnyTime

Nuts102 wrote: »

It's simple really to make this scheme effective.

Goverment pay's the 238 and the host pays the difference to make it minimum wage.

The result companies that are struggling are getting an employee for 100 euro.

The country creates minimum wage jobs which benefits everybody.

Greedy company's looking for free labour won't be exploiting people.

I can't understand how this is not done it's the best thing for the country and for people.

I also don't understand why a system like this is not in place. Usually there's some downside to ideas like this but I genuinely can't think of any. Everyone benefits. The government can continue manipulating live register figures, the unemployed can get good experience and a minimum wage job, the employers can hire people for a fraction of the cost.

sligoface

AlwaysAnyTime wrote: »

I also don't understand why a system like this is not in place. Usually there's some downside to ideas like this but I genuinely can't think of any. Everyone benefits. The government can continue manipulating live register figures, the unemployed can get good experience and a minimum wage job, the employers can hire people for a fraction of the cost.

I think it's a great idea, but for that to happen the government would have to admit the scheme is being used to fill (and thus take out of the market) actual jobs. They want to keep pretending it is all about people getting training which will give them the skills to gain employment, and that interns are not being treated and used the same as other employees while they serve in coffee shops, answer phones in an office, operate the till or fill shelves in a shop, 'work on their own initiative', and all the other things interns are doing now which they would have got minimum wage for in the good old days before slavebridge was cooked up.

Also the dole has been cut for young people and they will only get either 150 or 194 with the extra 50 for Jobbridge so if the employer was to make up the difference to bring the interns pay up to minimum wage it would be more expensive, and therefore less likely, for them to hire a young person, and that would defeat the purpose of the scheme which is in theory aimed at young graduates in need of experience.

Of course the reality is it is often people over 25 who are used to working and desperate for anything to fill their days and CV who are taking up internships, and that the scheme is used by companies who are either greedy or struggling financially, to fill jobs at no cost, and the training they are supposed to give is mostly an afterthought.

cloudatlas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEwFmRm7ExU

Xenji

Well I know for a fact that the Gateway scheme is forced upon social welfare recipients and they have no say in the matter and will have their dole cut if they do not partake in the scheme if requested to do so.

Backstreet Moyes

sligoface wrote: »

Also the dole has been cut for young people and they will only get either 150 or 194 with the extra 50 for Jobbridge so if the employer was to make up the difference to bring the interns pay up to minimum wage it would be more expensive, and therefore less likely, for them to hire a young person, and that would defeat the purpose of the scheme which is in theory aimed at young graduates in need of experience.

Of course the reality is it is often people over 25 who are used to working and desperate for anything to fill their days and CV who are taking up internships, and that the scheme is used by companies who are either greedy or struggling financially, to fill jobs at no cost, and the training they are supposed to give is mostly an afterthought.

I am fairly sure Jobsbridge is only for people 25 or over.

Nuts102

Nuts102 wrote: »

I am fairly sure Jobsbridge is only for people 25 or over.

Tell that to all those under 25 who are currently on the scheme. I think you'll find that they are targeting the under 25s more so than most.

Kimbot

Nuts102 wrote: »

I am fairly sure Jobsbridge is only for people 25 or over.

No it isnt

jme2010

Anybody here been successful in converting from JB to fulltime in the host company or hired directly as a result of experience gained?

Xenji

jme2010 wrote: »

Anybody here been successful in converting from JB to fulltime in the host company or hired directly as a result of experience gained?

About 8 people so far in this thread, yes I have been counting.

Wompa1

Xenji wrote: »

About 8 people so far in this thread, yes I have been counting.

Any number on how many on this thread did a JobBridge internship?

Xios

Wompa1 wrote: »

Any number on how many on this thread did a JobBridge internship?

I'm 1.

I disagree with the scheme. Had a bad experience.

Xenji

Wompa1 wrote: »

Any number on how many on this thread did a JobBridge internship?

Quite a few.

Wompa1

It would be cool to put up a poll to see how many did the Scheme and how many got a job out of it. Whether it be directly with the company they interned for or with a company after the program due to the experience they got.

Holsten

I think I read it was 20% get jobs with the company they intern with.

I'd guess it is substantially lower than that.

SCOOP 64

Mcauleys Gorey profits should be better this year.

http://goo.gl/dPaOeU
http://goo.gl/J4eXnt
http://goo.gl/bhoIOi
http://goo.gl/xaedF3

rawn

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Mcauleys Gorey profits should be better this year.

http://goo.gl/dPaOeU
http://goo.gl/J4eXnt
http://goo.gl/bhoIOi
http://goo.gl/xaedF3

Jaysis. Wonder how many staff they have working there now. According the the jobbridge website they must have 21-30 employees working there now in order to hire 4 interns on the scheme.

Xenji

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Mcauleys Gorey profits should be better this year.

http://goo.gl/dPaOeU
http://goo.gl/J4eXnt
http://goo.gl/bhoIOi
http://goo.gl/xaedF3

That Photographic Lab Assistant has to be just doing passport pictures, doubt you have a huge demand from people coming in with camera films wanting to be developed.

Everyone I know who went on it quit within a week aside from one guy who let himself be taken advantage of for 18 months because he's a sap.

SCOOP 64

rawn wrote: »

Jaysis. Wonder how many staff they have working there now. According the the jobbridge website they must have 21-30 employees working there now in order to hire 4 interns on the scheme.

With the 4 they let go to fill these positions ,doubt it woud be 21.

Xenji

Deleted User wrote: »

Everyone I know who went on it quit within a week aside from one guy who let himself be taken advantage of for 18 months because he's a sap.

I have not came across anyone yet who has done 9 months with two different companies or even worse done three 6 month internships with three different companies.

Xenji

Xenji wrote: »

I have not came across anyone yet who has done 9 months with two different companies or even worse done three 6 month internships with three different companies.

The end of it wasn't still under the internship, he just let himself be taken advantage of because it was that kind of company. He was pretty much managing an office and now he's left they have 2 new interns in (one a jobbridge, one not) and the boss has to be in fulltime. Hopefully it'll make him realising that paying some staff might be a good idea.

darkpagandeath

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

With the 4 they let go to fill these positions ,doubt it woud be 21.

The rules are there but are they enforced do they even have the recourses to check the placements. Most people are saying they only see someone at the exit of the internship. And I'm guessing it's in FAS and questions like were there 20 odd people working there don't come up it’s just like did you learn anything.

Lisbeth Salander

I did an internship, it was a good place to work while I was there but they have just continued taking on intern after intern when they clearly have a position to fill. The experience got me no where. I won't do another one! No jobs will be created while jobbridge is there.