The Anglo Irish Tapes

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RiverOfLove wrote: »

Paul Sommerville being interviewed by Max Keiser on Anglotapes:

http://rt.com/shows/keiser-report/episode-465-max-keiser-651/

Love Max. He goes over the top a bit but he's basically dead right.
Everyone should watch that.

Phill Ewinn

AnOrdinaryJoe wrote: »

If anyone reading this thread is interested (collusion being a concept which runs through this thread), I raised the issue of a form of collusion which appears to have upset some people (in After Hours: thread - Good riddance to the feckers I say..... re RBS subsidiary Ulster Bank in Ireland).

What appears to have upset some people is my reference to the fact that those in the upper echelons of the banks, and those who have benefited and continue to benefit the most from sharp practice, fraud, corruption, collusion, etc could not have done it all on their own.

They may have made decisions in the boardroom and they may have set the corporate tone...... but that on it's own was not and could not have been enough....... they needed assistance, co-operation, collusion, call it with you want, and that came from various areas INCLUDING from a compliant, subservient and obedient army of bank employees/officials who knew they were doing things which were not right, which were not ethical, which were not honest, and in connection to activities i.e. PPI mis-selling, etc which were ripping fellow citizens, etc off.

It is unpalatable, it is unsettling perhaps to think that individuals some may have social contact with may have engaged in dishonest behaviours against 'ourselves', but it is an unavoidable and perhaps an inconvenient truth, one which some reluctant to acknowledge.

There is no doubt that the main culprits are those at the top.... that is unquestionable.... but it doesn't absolve others who also played their parts in ripping ordinary people off.

Would be interested in the comments of some open minded posters regarding this particular issue....probably best to post in the original thread.

Proof of collusion is the fact that it's still happening. Many ministers and civil servants were already paid off. NAMA is still dumping money into the pockets of corrupt politicians mates. No investigation by the Gardai dispite the very, very obvious nature of this fraud. People being given airtime on RTE to condone these activities and pass off excuses. It goes on. It is going on and it will go on.


Ansbacher was millions. This fraud is more than this countries GDP in real terms.

RiverOfLove

MrPoker wrote: »

I've said it before I find the idea absurd that the government may put something in the water to keep the population quite but I'm slowly coming around to the idea that its possible. I've seen it in my job this week when our company decided to outsource our work effectively killing 100 or so careers. No fight, no protest, no work disruption and people just seemed to bend over and accept it.

http://www.maxkeiser.com/2013/07/diarmaid-ferriter-history-will-ask-how-the-irish-could-be-so-docile-in-face-of-such-betrayal/

'History will ask how the Irish could be so docile in face of such betrayal'

Never mind history, I'm asking it.

AnOrdinaryJoe

Ah 'outsourcing'...... sure big corporations love it.

It enables then to benefit from financial savings which are derived form various labour related sharp practices.... whilst being able (if not ethically or morally) to play the 'it wasn't us, we're in the clear, we can't be responsible if services or whatever supplier X Y or Z 'do stuff'. Sure that's their business, not ours.'

Meanwhile the corporations continue to derive their financial benefits from what is effectively knowing what goes on but turning a blind eye.

Well you know..... 'outsourcing. style..... where there's money there's blindness.

The banks have been 'outsourcing' for years.

Zebra3

tayto lover wrote: »

I don't think we can generalize like that BUT at the top they are political appointees and there lies the answers.

The only thing stopping any guard working in Ahern's area from arresting him is their own cowardice.

tayto lover

Zebra3 wrote: »

The only thing stopping any guard working in Ahern's area from arresting him is their own cowardice.

For what?
Even the Tribunals had fcuk all on him at the end of the day, mores the pity.

downonthefarm

bertie was a legend,
the country was broke for years but thanks to his accounting skills plebs kept pumping money into construction.

Boombastic

He won it on a horse. It's a pity Anglo didn't throw a few quid on it. Oh and Paddy the Plasterer. It seems legit alright. Nothing dodgy, no sireee, proven at the tribunal.

aloyisious

Alan Dukes indirectly admit's he was aware of the "smoking gun" tapes, he say's he didn't tell the inquiry about them because he wasn't asked about them. Now that's a class of bluff I haven't heard since Bertie was around. It'd be nice now if there was something on them which could be used as part of prosecution evidence; that way he could be done for withholding evidence or knowledge of evidence, maybe perverting the course of justice.

Zebra3

tayto lover wrote: »

For what?
Even the Tribunals had fcuk all on him at the end of the day, mores the pity.

Perjury.

Hootanany

Has Bertie got his Tax cert yet.

RiverOfLove

Wishing everybody who's going out protesting today in Dublin regarding these anglotapes and golden circle and government corruption, the very best of luck. Hope you get a nice good gang out. Unlikely but here's hoping.

tayto lover

Zebra3 wrote: »

Perjury.

Unfortunately a tribunal is not a court.
Neither is an inquiry.
That's why CAB should be involved in this and I can't understand why they are not except that I believe we are not supposed to have answers as those answers might incriminate a lot of powerful people.
Being able to appoint your own Garda Commissioner and have him decide what is or is not investigated and by whom is a very powerful weapon.

rolliepoley

tayto lover wrote: »

Unfortunately a tribunal is not a court.
Neither is an inquiry.
That's why CAB should be involved in this and I can't understand why they are not except that I believe we are not supposed to have answers as those answers might incriminate a lot of powerful people.
Being able to appoint your own Garda Commissioner and have him decide what is or is not investigated and by whom is a very powerful weapon.

I know it would cost a lot of money, but would a peoples investigation be the way to bring these parasites to book, something like a citizens arrest.
Everybody puts some money into a pot and hire the best investigation team money can get.

downonthefarm

these boys scammed billions out of them clowns I'm sure they have enough money to insulate themselves from a few muppets throwing questions at them in some kangaroo show trial. and rightly so too

aloyisious

downonthefarm wrote: »

these boys scammed billions out of them clowns I'm sure they have enough money to insulate themselves from a few muppets throwing questions at them in some kangaroo show trial. and rightly so too

I'm glad :rolleyes, maybe you were being as cynical as the majority of us on the chance of real justice being applied. God, how I wish for a length of hemp and a old oak tree

bumper234

aloyisious wrote: »

I'm glad :rolleyes, maybe you were being as cynical as the majority of us on the chance of real justice being applied. God, how I wish for a length of hemp and a old oak tree

We could change the lyrics to that old 70s song.

OH hang a yellow banker from the old oak tree.

Wurzelbert

„pro life“ march pretty strong turn-out, sinn féin’s „jail the bankers“ protest just a few folks…says a lot about what makes people tick around here…

MrPoker

Wurzelbert wrote: »

„pro life“ march pretty strong turn-out, sinn féin’s „jail the bankers“ protest just a few folks…says a lot about what makes people tick around here…

Was thinking the exact same. Read a report saying there was thousands of people at a pro life march. People would want to get their priorities in order. More pressing issues here other than this abortion nonsense.

RiverOfLove

Max Keiser said on his show this week 'Irish people are there to be abused'

and he's dead right. Today's Ireland is creating a power class. I'm waiting for an Irish hitler type person to emerge from this mess. He'll get away with murder and knows it.

In other news, it was mentioned on someones tweet that Ireland does indeed have treason in our constitution and it's defined as 'those who seek to damage the state'.

In other news, more tapes are due out in tomorrows sundays independent. This is according to a sunday independent reporter on twitter.

Wurzelbert

MrPoker wrote: »

Was thinking the exact same. Read a report saying there was thousands of people at a pro life march. People would want to get their priorities in order. More pressing issues here other than this abortion nonsense.

yeah...i went to town specifically in order to check out and help bolster the numbers at today’s sf protest at the central bank, hoping for an infuriated crowd of thousands with torches and pitchforks and all…on the way down i came across the "pro life" march and thought to myself “nice crowd, hope down there it is at least as good”…well, not really…about two dozen or so shinners, more like an intimate protest picnic…i now realise ireland is truly lost and going nowhere…

RiverOfLove

From twitter -
The regulator and the department of finance feature in tomorrows anglotapes.

rolliepoley

downonthefarm wrote: »

these boys scammed billions out of them clowns I'm sure they have enough money to insulate themselves from a few muppets throwing questions at them in some kangaroo show trial. and rightly so too

If they were stupid enough to ramble on some recorded phone, i'd say they left enough rope behind to hang them selfs.

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New tape on the contempt Anglo had for the Central bank/regulator.
Disgusting.

Carnegie

RiverOfLove wrote: »

From twitter -
The regulator and the department of finance feature in tomorrows anglotapes.

who cares, we all know they've been gagged and can only publish non contentious recordings from the tapes

downonthefarm

any chance of drummer doing a henry hill?

squod

downonthefarm wrote: »

any chance of drummer doing a henry hill?

Think him and Quinn want blood from the Oireachtas mób.

I just want the money back.

downonthefarm

squod wrote: »

Think him and Quinn want blood from the Oireachtas mób.

I just want the money back.

i just want to stop hearing all the bad news on the radio

Grandeeod

Unfortunately everyone went to this instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lslJ8zgmAuA

Worztron

google.ie/search?q=Anglo+Irish+Bank+Our+friends+on+Dame+Street...

google.ie/search?q=Anglo+Irish+Bank+Recording+shower+of+clowns...