The Anglo Irish Tapes

paddy147

Had to laugh at Joan Burtons pathetic answer to Sinn Feins question in the Dail today.

Mary asked Joan.......what you are going to do about these bankers who took money from the state and allmost bankrupted this country.

What do you have to say to all the distressed mortgage holders today who are going to be hounded now by the banks for money they cant afford to pay back.

Joan replies.


"Well Sinn Fein would know all about banks and taking money from them"



That was a dig at them over the Northern Bank and the robbery a few yaers back.

jos28

Alan Dukes has been staying very quiet since the tapes emerged, anyone heard any interviews with the former Anglo Irish Bank chairman ?

SeaFields

paddy147 wrote: »

Had to laugh at Joan Burtons pathetic answer to Sinn Feins question in the Dail today.

Mary asked Joan.......what you are going to do about these bankers who took money from the state and allmost bankrupted this country.

What do you have to say to all the distressed mortgage holders today who are going to be hounded now by the banks for money they cant afford to pay back.

Joan replies.


"Well Sinn Fein would know all about banks and taking money from them"



That was a dig at them over the Northern Bank and the robbery a few yaers back.

not much time for sinn fein but id sooner burton answered the fcuking question

Scofflaw

paddy147 wrote: »

Imagine if Lennihan and the Central Bank had have told Anglo to feck off and that they were getting nothing.....


Would be this bad off now?????

As it turns out, almost certainly not. That, to me - and admittedly I've been accused of being "monotheistic" on the subject - is the point, that allowing Anglo to fall might have speeded up the fall of the other banks by a month or two, but is more likely to have speeded up only the creation of the guarantee and made no difference to the difficulties of the other banks, but because the government and regulator were clueless, Anglo were able to persuade them to the contrary.

cordially,
Scofflaw

paddy147

SeaFields wrote: »

not much time for sinn fein but id sooner burton answered the fcuking question

It was like a scene from the Mario Rosenstock/Gift Grub show this morning.

She wouldnt answer anyones question...all she did was go on about the past and slagg off other TDs and political parties.


Oh but she did warble on about how she is also a qualified accountant aswell as a minister....:rolleyes:





Infact I rekon you would have got a straight forward answer from Mario Rosenstock.

RiverOfLove

paddy147 wrote: »

How are all these people still walking the streets 5 year on?

How do they all have massive payoffs and pensions??


How are they all still laughing at us??



If this was any joe soap,then they would be up in court in a matter of months.


But politicians and big bankers who tell lies dont seem to get the same "treatment"????

How are we still sitting in behind screens at keyboards and keypads 5 years on.

We are enabling this sh1t.

cometogether

paddy147 wrote: »

Had to laugh at Joan Burtons pathetic answer to Sinn Feins question in the Dail today.

Mary asked Joan.......what you are going to do about these bankers who took money from the state and allmost bankrupted this country.

What do you have to say to all the distressed mortgage holders today who are going to be hounded now by the banks for money they cant afford to pay back.

Joan replies.


"Well Sinn Fein would know all about banks and taking money from them"



That was a dig at them over the Northern Bank and the robbery a few yaers back.

To think that a woman who is paid a massive wage to represent people in this country would actually answer a question in that way in the Dail is pretty pathetic tbh. What a clown.

AnOrdinaryJoe

paddy147 wrote: »

Had to laugh at Joan Burtons pathetic answer to Sinn Feins question in the Dail today.

Mary asked Joan.......what you are going to do about these bankers who took money from the state and allmost bankrupted this country.

What do you have to say to all the distressed mortgage holders today who are going to be hounded now by the banks for money they cant afford to pay back.

Joan replies.


"Well Sinn Fein would know all about banks and taking money from them"

That was a dig at them over the Northern Bank and the robbery a few yaers back.

Apology if anyone should object to this bit being a repetition of something which was referred to previously, but it sort of fits in here, and maybe is indicative of the state of the upper echelons of our banking sector.

The only person convicted of any criminal charges relating to the Northern Bank (now Danske Bank) robbery, an individual in Cork, alleged that the brains behind the robbery was someone who was head of Bank of Scotland (HBOS).

I don't know if that's true or not...... but he did allege it....... and it's on t'internet.

If it is true, it would mean that a top banker robbed from a major bank...... I'm not sure what 'that' means or what could be inferred from it....... but it is a bit mad is it not if it was true.

And of course there are conspiracy theorists who suggest that the robbery was a pre-sanctioned pay off arrangement for the IRA for their co-operation re the establishing of peace in the North...... I'm not sure I'd go with that one....... but there are some who believe it to be the case.

Don't forget (a fact which is normally played down)..... there were 2 separate robberies....the first earlier in the day which allegedly they, the robbers, found to be so easy, and the fact that (allegedly) inside the bank the missing money had not been noticed to be missing, thereby suggesting an element of 'insidejobiness', they came back for a second time and got away with even more money.

The van used was (allegedly) tracked to around the Royal Victoria Hospital vicinity, an area where there are CCTV cameras in abundance..... and then (allegedly) it disappeared......

Maybe there are logical reasons for everything.....

Gringo180

Just home from the march at the GPO now, not a great turn out which is disappointing but what can ye do but only make sure your voice is heard. I uploaded a few videos on youtube for anybody if they would like a look, my battery went dead so I couldn't record as much as I would of liked.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3mFoIAvo6-BcphaWT9pVsg

paddy147

AnOrdinaryJoe wrote: »

Apology if anyone should object to this bit being a repetition of something which was referred to previously, but it sort of fits in here, and maybe is indicative of the state of the upper echelons of our banking sector.

The only person convicted of any criminal charges relating to the Northern Bank (now Danske Bank) robbery, an individual in Cork, alleged that the brains behind the robbery was someone who was head of Bank of Scotland (HBOS).

I don't know if that's true or not...... but he did allege it....... and it's on t'internet.

If it is true, it would mean that a top banker robbed from a major bank...... I'm not sure what 'that' means or what could be inferred from it....... but it is a bit mad is it not if it was true.

And of course there are conspiracy theorists who suggest that the robbery was a pre-sanctioned pay off arrangement for the IRA for their co-operation re the establishing of peace in the North...... I'm not sure I'd go with that one....... but there are some who believe it to be the case.

Don't forget (a fact which is normally played down)..... there were 2 separate robberies....the first earlier in the day which allegedly they, the robbers, found to be so easy, and the fact that (allegedly) inside the bank the missing money had not been noticed to be missing, thereby suggesting an element of 'insidejobiness', they came back for a second time and got away with even more money.

The van used was (allegedly) tracked to around the Royal Victoria Hospital vicinity, an area where there are CCTV cameras in abundance..... and then (allegedly) it disappeared......




Maybe there are logical reasons for everything.....

All I wanted was for Joan Burton to answer the simple questions that the various TDs from each party asked her.

She didnt answer anyone,and she then slagged off everyone else and warbled on about how she is also a qualified accountant.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

BuilderPlumber

SeaFields wrote: »

not much time for sinn fein but id sooner burton answered the fcuking question

The Jintos pay have used guns and balaclavas to rob banks. Fianna Fail and co set up a bank to rob a bank. That bank was Anglo Irish Bank and those in it were the banksters and bwankers.

markesmith

You know, we should all just rush the Dail, take it by force and dissolve all political parties. Even with no agenda or purpose, that's got to be better than the subservient, craven position we're currently in.

A change has gotta come.

rolliepoley

paddy147 wrote: »

All I wanted was for Joan Burton to answer the simple questions that the various TDs from each party asked her.

She didnt answer anyone,and she then slagged off everyone else and warbled on about how she is also a qualified accountant.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

The sad thing is we wont get any answers, not from this sad lot.

R P McMurphy

jos28 wrote: »

Alan Dukes has been staying very quiet since the tapes emerged, anyone heard any interviews with the former Anglo Irish Bank chairman ?

He has refused to comment on the tapes and on the executives that are on the tapes and that were still working alongside him in the IBRC.

You mislabelled Garlic? 6 years in jail for you!

You mislead the Central Bank and cost the State 30 billion euro? Haha you little rascal, go and have a nice holiday, and don't worry about your pension!

RiverOfLove

markesmith wrote: »

You know, we should all just rush the Dail, take it by force and dissolve all political parties. Even with no agenda or purpose, that's got to be better than the subservient, craven position we're currently in.

A change has gotta come.

I'm going to quote this its worth repeating.

Overthrow the government like switzerlands way.

This bank guarantee is not new news. People knew it stank. It stank more when NAMA followed. It stank even more again when in 2011 revelations came out about some members of government and banking officials wined, dined and played golf together before the guarantee. People went to the voting booths in feb 2011, being opmistic and seeing it as an opportunity for a change to change many wrongs in society. Enda kenny and co has been in power for 27 months now and he comes out during the week saying we hope to do an inquiry. Using these tapes as an excuse to push an agenda to give themselves more powers to investigate themselves.

RiverOfLove

They've had 27 months to do something on this, to gain some justice on the immoraility of it all and they've done nothing expect for going to Europe with begging bowls and protecting themselves.

R P McMurphy

Go on the boys

RiverOfLove

Deleted User wrote: »

You mislabelled Garlic? 6 years in jail for you!

You mislead the Central Bank and cost the State 30 billion euro? Haha you little rascal, go and have a nice holiday, and don't worry about your pension!

and then raid Irelands pension pots.

aloyisious

paddy147 wrote: »

Imagine if Lennihan and the Central Bank had have told Anglo to feck off and that they were getting nothing.....


Would be this bad off now?????

Like the way the US authorities let a bank there go to the wall? It probably would have been the saviour of our nation, and maybe even FF, in the long run and things would definitely have been better by now.

Who know's, there might even have been begrudging hindsight admission by the other EU Govt's (even if not by bankers and the ECB) that it had been the right decision. Plus those responsible would be on the dole queue, instead of being comfortably-off at our expense.

R P McMurphy

aloyisious wrote: »

Like the way the US authorities let a bank there go to the wall? It probably would have been the saviour of our nation, and maybe even FF, in the long run and things would definitely have been better by now.

Who know's, there might even have been begrudging hindsight admission by the other EU Govt's (even if not by bankers and the ECB) that it had been the right decision. Plus those responsible would be on the dole queue, instead of being comfortably-off at our expense.

The decision to keep these people on as some of the top earners in the state until relatively recently must surely be a major source of shame now for whoever made those decisions

Mardy Bum

R P McMurphy wrote: »

The decision to keep these people on as some of the top earners in the state until relatively recently must surely be a major source of shame now for whoever made those decisions

Imagine what else these scumbags got up to after they were put in them positions.

bumper234

R P McMurphy wrote: »

The decision to keep these people on as some of the top earners in the state until relatively recently must surely be a major source of shame now for whoever made those decisions

Unfortunately not one of these scumbags know what shame or remorse is. I bet if you spoke to one of them today they would claim they did nothing wrong.

R P McMurphy

bumper234 wrote: »

Unfortunately not one of these scumbags know what shame or remorse is. I bet if you spoke to one of them today they would claim they did nothing wrong.

True but I was thinking more along the lines of Dukes and those in the IBRC that decided that these fools still needed extravagant salaries to stay on

Tánaiste Eamon Gilmore has said it is not acceptable that six executives at the former Anglo Irish Bank are earning over €500,000 a year.
Minister for Finance Michael Noonan yesterday confirmed six executives at Irish Bank Resolution Corporation (IBRC), including chief executive Mike Aynsley, are receiving annual pay packages of more than €500,000.
There are 12 staff at IBRC in receipt of remuneration packages of €300,000-€399,000, 24 on €200,000-€299,000 and 44 on €150,000- €199,000. The packages include salaries, pensions benefits and allowances. Some 146 IBRC staff earn €100,000-€149,000, while 774 earn less than €100,000.

http://namawinelake.wordpress.com/2012/11/07/30-ibrc-staff-give-two-fingers-to-noonan-when-asked-to-waive-portion-of-salaries-over-e200000/

foxcoverteddy

Are we any nearer on a decision as to the next course of action, yes we have a petition, hopefully everyone has signed it, something positive.
Have we received any legal advice as to what actions need to be taken to force either our government or the European council for Europe to investigate.
I personally would not trust anyone here investigating, unless the guards are going to charge the Anglo board with conspiracy and would we have politicians who connived with Anglo who could also be charged.
The thread is very interesting and many of the comments well put. Foxy

TheUsual

This was on Max Keiser report on Russia Today this evening.

Jaysus, he ripped Anglo Irish a new one for about 15 minutes, will be up on YouTube in a few days usually.
He has a soft spot for Ireland, got married to his wife in Dublin.

Sky King

TheUsual wrote: »

This was on Max Keiser report on Russia Today this evening.

Jaysus, he ripped Anglo Irish a new one for about 15 minutes, will be up on YouTube in a few days usually.
He has a soft spot for Ireland, got married to his wife in Dublin.

I like him, saw him at Kilkenomics - funny guy.

NegativeCreep

foxcoverteddy wrote: »

Are we any nearer on a decision as to the next course of action, yes we have a petition, hopefully everyone has signed it, something positive.
Have we received any legal advice as to what actions need to be taken to force either our government or the European council for Europe to investigate.
I personally would not trust anyone here investigating, unless the guards are going to charge the Anglo board with conspiracy and would we have politicians who connived with Anglo who could also be charged.
The thread is very interesting and many of the comments well put. Foxy

Where's the petition?

TheUsual

Taped banker quits counselling role.

"Peter Fitzgerald, appointed spokesman when the toxic lender was re-branded, has been embroiled in a series of damning taped conversations as Anglo collapsed in 2008. A spokeswoman for the Irish Association of Alcohol and Addiction Counsellors confirmed he has resigned as its interim chief executive."

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/tapes-show-anglo-irish-boss-demands-074037767.html#ZdcDfD7

RiverOfLove

TheUsual wrote: »

This was on Max Keiser report on Russia Today this evening.

Jaysus, he ripped Anglo Irish a new one for about 15 minutes, will be up on YouTube in a few days usually.
He has a soft spot for Ireland, got married to his wife in Dublin.

That was linked in twitter under
@Revolution_IRL
Its already up on youtube. Can't link, sorry because of crap phone.