Squats the Story MkII- Off topic thread

amazingemmet

The problem is extreme results take extreme measures and most people aren't willing to actually stray out side their comfort zones.

While I certainly agree great results take time and consistency. For the level of the average gym dweller I think they'd be surprised in what is achievable if they took what seems to them to be extreme measures.

ronanc15

Truth is we all need a certain level of tolerance for these querys. All though they can bug the sh1t out of me it these types of questions usually means 1 of 2 things:

- the person is naive or lacking knowledge in terms of what is truly required to achieve the desired results.
- the person is too lazy to tackle the real grind they know it will take to achieve their objectives.

All you can do really is offer your 2c but tbh paying it little attention is often the best option. As the saying goes you can bring the horse to water, but you can't force them to drink it.

Hanley

amazingemmet wrote: »

The problem is extreme results take extreme measures and most people aren't willing to actually stray out side their comfort zones.

While I certainly agree great results take time and consistency. For the level of the average gym dweller I think they'd be surprised in what is achievable if they took what seems to them to be extreme measures.

Fact. I think there's only 5-10% of the general population who has what it takes to do that tho!

brownej

Hanley wrote: »

Fact. I think there's only 5-10% of the general population who has what it takes to do that tho!

Thats more than the percentage* of the general population who are regular gym goers, or take regular exercise. I would suggest the actual percentage of those that "have what it takes" is alot lower.


*I'm guessing here, I actually have no idea how much of the general population are regular gym goers.

amazingemmet

Hanley wrote: »

Fact. I think there's only 5-10% of the general population who has what it takes to do that tho!

Its what keeps me in business. If people want to see some extreme results go to my twitter for the picture of the bikini competitor I prepped in 6 weeks, 22% bodyfat to 12% and her weight didn't move til we done here water manipulation.

Hanley

brownej wrote: »

Thats more than the percentage* of the general population who are regular gym goers, or take regular exercise. I would suggest the actual percentage of those that "have what it takes" is alot lower.


*I'm guessing here, I actually have no idea how much of the general population are regular gym goers.

5-10% of the general gym population. So that's what, a quarter of one percent to one percent of people?

conzy

Zombienosh wrote: »

Are people in general just really impatient these days?
Especially in regards fitness, everyone wants "Gain muscle fast" "Lost the belly in x amount of weeks" (Where x is continually getting smaller)
The amount of posts asking for help and talk about no progress or not gaining enough muscle or losing enough weight, and when they're given tried and tested basic advice that works i.e hard work, consistency and stay at it the results will come in time.

The response is ..."meh"
If I see something and it has the word fast or quick in it I always pay it little attention. There is no method that can outdo consistent hard work and time.

I think my biggest breakthrough in relation to fitness is realizing that its a long term project and accepting that. I have short term goals etc but when I really got the grips with the fact that its something that takes years and not weeks I began to enjoy it more and became even more motivated to succeed

Mellor

Zombienosh wrote: »

Are people in general just really impatient these days?
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These days?

Mr. CooL ICE

Sneezed mid-deadlift yesterday and hurt my lower back.

Never thought hayfever would get in the way of me training, but I wasn't expecting this.

DM-BM

amazingemmet wrote: »

The problem is extreme results take extreme measures and most people aren't willing to actually stray out side their comfort zones.

While I certainly agree great results take time and consistency. For the level of the average gym dweller I think they'd be surprised in what is achievable if they took what seems to them to be extreme measures.

Can you give some examples of what you mean by extreme measures?

ronanc15

LordChessington wrote: »

Sneezed mid-deadlift yesterday and hurt my lower back.

Never thought hayfever would get in the way of me training, but I wasn't expecting this.

I'm more of a farting mid lift type of guy myself.

amazingemmet

DM-BM wrote: »

Can you give some examples of what you mean by extreme measures?

Say telling someone that they should train 6 days a week with each workout leaving them a sweating panting mess on the floor. Most people would say that is extreme. I can count on one hand the amount of times in a non s+c/crossfit gym I've seen that happen.

That if you really want to improve on a lift you should max out everyday.

That for dieting some days of the week you should eat below your BMR.

Marty McFly

amazingemmet wrote: »

Say telling someone that they should train 6 days a week with each workout leaving them a sweating panting mess on the floor. Most people would say that is extreme. I can count on one hand the amount of times in a non s+c/crossfit gym I've seen that happen.

That if you really want to improve on a lift you should max out everyday.

That for dieting some days of the week you should eat below your BMR.

6 days a week you recommend for hard exercise? I currently go the gym four times a week and try go for a run once a week, some weeks I miss the run. When I go with my trainer I'm left a panting mess and am improving when going on my own pushing myself harder and harder but I think that just cause im learning more and becoming more confident in the gym.

On a separate note any recommend any places in Dublin for healthy eating out?

amazingemmet

Its all about signals in my mind. The more often and the stronger the signal the better your body will adapt to it. Using you as an roughly 45 mins working out. That's 3 hours a week work out time which represents 1.7% of your week. Now if you have an average lifestyle you'll spend 66% of the time at least being stationary be it working,travelling or sleeping which signal will win over time?

The human body is capable of so much but we've forgotten that over time and it takes time to find it again and while what you think is working hard is not really that hard for your body.

Marty McFly

amazingemmet wrote: »

Its all about signals in my mind. The more often and the stronger the signal the better your body will adapt to it. Using you as an roughly 45 mins working out. That's 3 hours a week work out time which represents 1.7% of your week. Now if you have an average lifestyle you'll spend 66% of the time at least being stationary be it working,travelling or sleeping which signal will win over time?

The human body is capable of so much but we've forgotten that over time and it takes time to find it again and while what you think is working hard is not really that hard for your body.

Never thought of it like that, interesting. I guess it depends on the individuals lifestyle as you said and how much your physically active.

I do spend an hour in the gym each time I go, plus I work shift work were I'm on my feet for twelve hours straight this week was working nights 7p.m to 7a.m then heading straight to the gym for an hour before going home to bed. Im learning as I go along the more I learn the better I get, this time last year I was clueless but been training about 8 months now which started of as just going for runs and has evolved but it's quite addictive love reading in here and other paces getting as much info as I can.

Duck's hoop

I got talking to some very accomplished athletes last weekend. They don't work but do train for what is widely accepted is one of the toughest sports out there.

Anyway, they train 3 times a day 4 days a week. And twice a day the other 3. They take a day off once every 23 days or so.

First session is at 6 am. Then they shower and eat and rest and do a slightly shorter session. And another a few hours later.

Must say, opened my eyes.

Blacktie.

Duck's hoop wrote: »

I got talking to some very accomplished athletes last weekend. They don't work but do train for what is widely accepted is one of the toughest sports out there.

Anyway, they train 3 times a day 4 days a week. And twice a day the other 3. They take a day off once every 23 days or so.

First session is at 6 am. Then they shower and eat and rest and do a slightly shorter session. And another a few hours later.

Must say, opened my eyes.

They must eat an insane amount! Love to see their diet.

Zombienosh

Let's not make the mistake of comparing professional athletes and normal 9-5'ers. If you got paid for something that involves training and were able to do nothing but push yourself physically I'm sure it would be a lot different than the person trying to squeeze in 4 or so workouts a week.

This is where a person really has to focus on quality over quantity. I see people going to the gym 5/6 times a week and not breaking a sweat, checking the phone, talking a lot and then I see people going 2/3 times a week and breaking their bollox.

Mellor

Duck's hoop wrote: »

I got talking to some very accomplished athletes last weekend. They don't work but do train for what is widely accepted is one of the toughest sports out there.

Which sport?
Just curious

Duck's hoop

Mellor wrote: »

Which sport?
Just curious

Rowing.

WolfForager

What's the general impression of Elliot Hulse 'round these parts? Been watching a few of his videos and they're mostly informative!

An example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIvXCE3Qjyg

RidleyRider

WolfForager wrote: »

What's the general impression of Elliot Hulse 'round these parts? Been watching a few of his videos and they're mostly informative!

An example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIvXCE3Qjyg

The mans a genius! Every time I watch a vid of his I feel like a should have a pen and paper by my side.

LuckyLloyd

WolfForager wrote: »

What's the general impression of Elliot Hulse 'round these parts? Been watching a few of his videos and they're mostly informative!

An example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIvXCE3Qjyg

Even if he doesn't flat out say it, it seems like the real message of some parts of the videos is to breathe deep into your balls and release monsters. But seriously, some of it is good stuff.

Zombienosh

Think he's awesome. I've got some awesome tips from him and book recommends!

LuckyLloyd

amazingemmet wrote: »

Its all about signals in my mind. The more often and the stronger the signal the better your body will adapt to it. Using you as an roughly 45 mins working out. That's 3 hours a week work out time which represents 1.7% of your week. Now if you have an average lifestyle you'll spend 66% of the time at least being stationary be it working,travelling or sleeping which signal will win over time?

The human body is capable of so much but we've forgotten that over time and it takes time to find it again and while what you think is working hard is not really that hard for your body.

I find it a fair old struggle to manage five crossfit sessions a week tbh. I feel like much more than that would require a slavish attention to detail in terms of food preparation and sleep when you consider that big old 50 hour week plus commute.

You and Hanley (who is a walking example) are correct in what you say, but it's understandable why we make the choice of being less than what we could be.

googled eyes

Really like Elliotts videos.

Dathai

Dunno if any of you follow Giants Live on Facebook, but they put this up earlier.

http://i39.tinypic.com/16ghgsk.png

Check out Terry Holland's comment (highlighted). Not sure if he's trolling or..

LuckyLloyd

http://instagram.com/p/bELeNbIfvT/?igref=ogexp

158kgs - can anyone explain the reasoning behind the mixed grip?

googled eyes

Probably because of the old wrist injury mentioned in the comments. Its easier to swing the arm over from the mixed grip maybe?

That looked crazy.

amazingemmet

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I find it a fair old struggle to manage five crossfit sessions a week tbh.

As I said its signals if you can only manage to send that signal not that frequently then it has to be a powerful one.