Squats the Story MkII- Off topic thread

amazingemmet

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Of course not. They'd have individualised coaching and programming; train multiple times a day and approach it on a full time basis for starters.

But the standard at a good box is a version of what was on show at the weekend (super vanilla version but version nonetheless):

Mobilise
Do a big compound or Olympic lift
Do a metcon
Touch on different training areas
Wrap it all in well structured and cyclical programming

Isn't this how every other well structured S+C program world wide has been running since before crossfit was a twinkle in Glassman eye. Fwiw I don't have any problem with what's done in a well structured box's programming. I just don't think its anything revolutionary.

LuckyLloyd

amazingemmet wrote: »

Isn't this how every other well structured S+C program world wide has been running since before crossfit was a twinkle in Glassman eye. Fwiw I don't have any problem with what's done in a well structured box's programming. I just don't think its anything revolutionary.

Quite possibly!! Maybe 'crossfit with the retarded elements stripped out' is merely 'solid S & C training'.

amazingemmet

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Quite possibly!! Maybe 'crossfit with the retarded elements stripped out' is merely 'solid S & C training'.

with good branding;)

Hanley

amazingemmet wrote: »

Isn't this how every other well structured S+C program world wide has been running since before crossfit was a twinkle in Glassman eye. Fwiw I don't have any problem with what's done in a well structured box's programming. I just don't think its anything revolutionary.

Surprising how many people miss this one.

Zombienosh

I like how it attracts a lot of people who would usually be put of weights to lift some weight. There are from videos I've seen a lot of women into crossfit.

Sangre

It appears I can do a weighted pistol but not an unweighted one. Not exactly counter-intuitive but not immediately obvious. Not to work on balance.

Hanley

Sangre wrote: »

It appears I can do a weighted pistol but not an unweighted one. Not exactly counter-intuitive but not immediately obvious. Not to work on balance.

Counter balance pulls you into position better. Could potentially be a band aid on ankle mobility issues - forward center of gravity prevent backwards fall that usually happens with limited ankle ROM

amazingemmet

Zombienosh wrote: »

I like how it attracts a lot of people who would usually be put of weights to lift some weight. There are from videos I've seen a lot of women into crossfit.

This is true, crossfit has done more for the popularity of o-lifting then anything else has.

Sangre

Hanley wrote: »

Counter balance pulls you into position better. Could potentially be a band aid on ankle mobility issues - forward center of gravity prevent backwards fall that usually happens with limited ankle ROM

Definitely ankle mobility issues, which seem to lag far behind everything else. Efforts I've made to try and improve it haven't resulted in much improvement which is frustrating as I've limited time to work-out (which includes mobility stuff).

Trying to use bands to put extended pressure on it, only problem is finding time.

amazingemmet

Sangre wrote: »

Definitely ankle mobility issues, which seem to lag far behind everything else. Efforts I've made to try and improve it haven't resulted in much improvement which is frustrating as I've limited time to work-out (which includes mobility stuff).

Trying to use bands to put extended pressure on it, only problem is finding time.

ok here's the thing that will I'm 90% sure fix your ankle flexibility, f*ck bands, foam rollers and all those other fads. Every time you get in the gym load the standing calf machine up with a weight you'd use for sets of 8-10 reps. Now get on it and hang out in the bottom position keeping your knees straight and using the weight to force you down. Now stay there for 2 minutes . Do that a minimum 4x per week for 4 weeks then you can thank me.

kevpants

amazingemmet wrote: »

This is true, crossfit has done more for the popularity of o-lifting then anything else has.

Ironically it has achieved this by vigourously defiling everything weighlifting is about.

Don't get me started on the CF games. To be fair they are Crossfit in it's best setting, as a test. If you're timing someone and they have to go until they pass out, this is testing, not training.

LuckyLloyd

kevpants wrote: »

Ironically it has achieved this by vigourously defiling everything weighlifting is about.

Don't get me started on the CF games. To be fair they are Crossfit in it's best setting, as a test. If you're timing someone and they have to go until they pass out, this is testing, not training.

Can I get you started? I'm wary of becoming a fully fledged kool aid drinker. Thought the games were great entertainment tbh!

Jarren

Hi Guys

I was looking at this pic , never saw weight plates like this before
Any idea where this can be sourced from ?
Cheers
Jarren

DylanJM

Jarren wrote: »

Hi Guys

I was looking at this pic , never saw weight plates like this before
Any idea where this can be sourced from ?
Cheers
Jarren

They're rubber bumper plates. They look like the cheaper, generic plates that have come around since Crossfit has come about. The cheaper ones do tend to be quite wide.

If your looking to buy them D8fitness (in Dublin) do them. I've seen and used the D8 plates and would recommend them.

http://www.d8fitness.com/store/bumpers/

Jarren

THanks for the reply

I have the olympic colour bumper plates and olympic colour trip grip weight plates already, cheers.
The thing is with the picture above that I couldn't find those specific bumper plates in Ireland or UK .

Any imore info much apprecciated

Jarren

kevpants

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Can I get you started? I'm wary of becoming a fully fledged kool aid drinker. Thought the games were great entertainment tbh!

Well they should be renamed the Lactic Acid Tolerance Games for starters. They are great entertainment TBH. Ridiculously conditioned people being made do things that break them for your viewing pleasure.

They aren't the greatest athletes in the world though. They're just not, nowhere close. They're a collection of elite middle class white people I'll give them that but the Tour de France is an infinitely greater test of the human body for example. They are also quite poor technically, there's little skill. The technique in the O-lifts is shocking but it will be if you're asked to do 1000 of them in the time it takes me to eat a sandwich. The swimming as well, jesus some of them were bad. I think the near drownings kind of undermined the "elite" theme CF goes for with the games. Will be interesting to see if that reappears next year.

It's all very USA! USA!, there's not much skill, everyone's attractive and the events are getting more and more outlandish.

But you're right it's entertaining as hell and I can't wait for the logical conclusion which is for the mens 2020 CF games champion Chip Bromeister, who's cheekbones are so high they give him an advantage while kipping, wins the final event, the shot-put high dive for time (known as Xia Ping, they ran out of western girls names in 2017) by 1 rep over former Russian weightlifter Dimitriy Klokov who came out fo retirement to prove how ridiculous this all was but missed the email with the updated event schedule and therefore didn't train at all for the skateboarding through a ball-pit event and lost valuable time.

kevpants

Jarren wrote: »

Hi Guys

I was looking at this pic , never saw weight plates like this before
Any idea where this can be sourced from ?
Cheers
Jarren

Please don't. Please buy normal sized plates. Some of us have trained very hard for a very long time to get a bar that full of plates.

DylanJM

Ok, being a bit more specific. To me they look like they might be the hi temp bumpers which are made from recycled rubber. Very common in the states with a few companies making them (rogue, again faster)

http://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-bumper-plates-by-hi-temp.php

Jarren

DylanJM wrote: »

Ok, being a bit more specific. To me they look like they might be the hi temp bumpers which are made from recycled rubber. Very common in the states with a few companies making them (rogue, again faster)

http://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-bumper-plates-by-hi-temp.php

Thanks for that info , great that they can be used outdoors:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmd220uO0xg

rubadub

Sangre wrote: »

It appears I can do a weighted pistol but not an unweighted one. Not exactly counter-intuitive but not immediately obvious. Not to work on balance.

I was reading some guy saying weighted ring dips are "easier" too, presumably with the weight on a dip belt hanging a good bit down so it helps stabilise the straps. And "easier" meaning relative to regular dips, so if you can do say 20 regular dips and 10 with 20kg added, you might not halve your ring dips reps with the same added weight.

I was thinking of hanging weights off gym rings as a means of stabilising them, yes -I realise instability is part of them but some people might only have rings and not be able to do any. I once put my rings up really high, i.e. shortened the straps to stabilise them which worked well.

Must try the pistols again, if you had a long barbell with small weights it might act like a balancing pole.

Theresalwaysone

Thoroughly enjoyed that post Kev. Well played.

RidleyRider

Since bumper plates seems to be on topic, here- https://www.strengthshop.de/special-offers/150kg-bumper-plates-coloured-vollgummi-hantelscheiben-farbig-set.html

Good value?

DylanJM

RidleyRider wrote: »

Since bumper plates seems to be on topic, here- https://www.strengthshop.de/special-offers/150kg-bumper-plates-coloured-vollgummi-hantelscheiben-farbig-set.html

Good value?

Yep pretty good value. Just an FYI if your ordering off strength shop use the .co.uk site. The shipping will be cheaper because it'll come from Scotland. If you order from .de site they'll be sent from Germany.

EDIT:

Just checked shipping prices.

€160 from the .de site
£114 from the .co.uk site

Either way ouch! May be worth finding a supplier in Ireland to avoid the high shipping prices.

RidleyRider

DylanJM wrote: »

Yep pretty good value. Just an FYI if your ordering off strength shop use the .co.uk site. The shipping will be cheaper because it'll come from Scotland. If you order from .de site they'll be sent from Germany.

EDIT:

Just checked shipping prices.

€160 from the .de site
£114 from the .co.uk site

Either way ouch! May be worth finding a supplier in Ireland to avoid the high shipping prices.

Christ that's saucy! Hadn't looked into the price of postage!

COH

When I ordered a couple of grands worth of stuff from strengthshop last year they quoted me 70 quid flat fee for shipping an entire pallet irrespective of its weight or dimension

Hanley

COH wrote: »

When I ordered a couple of grands worth of stuff from strengthshop last year they quoted me 70 quid flat fee for shipping an entire pallet irrespective of its weight or dimension

Thinly veiled "ask me about my gear" post.

RidleyRider

COH wrote: »

When I ordered a couple of grands worth of stuff from strengthshop last year they quoted me 70 quid flat fee for shipping an entire pallet irrespective of its weight or dimension

What did you get? Probably cause you ordered a **** load of stuff?

Edit- Dam you Hanley :pac:

Hanley

RidleyRider wrote: »

What did you get? Probably cause you ordered a **** load of stuff?

Edit- Dam you Hanley :pac:

Too funny.

K4t

Anyone here used/using creatine? Do you feel it's worth the price if incorporated properly into a good lifting routine?

Zombienosh

Creatine is awesome, somewhere here..probably hanley posted a link to studies showing benefits for things outside of strength.