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Provincial Schools Cups 2013-2014 [MOD NOTE POST 1]

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    #2222
    funtime93
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    England, narrowly 11-9.
    Scotland beat Portugal 35-11 and Italy beat Georgia 15-13.
    England narrowly beat Wales who narrowly beat Scotland who we beat convincingly.If we don't beat England,we're crap.


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    #2223
    Hagz
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    Any word on the XV for the u19s?


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    #2224
    Younger
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    funtime93 wrote: »
    .If we don't beat England,we're crap.

    Well it's not every day you hear that!


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    #2225
    The Lost Sheep
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    funtime93 wrote: »
    England narrowly beat Wales who narrowly beat Scotland who we beat convincingly.If we don't beat England,we're crap.
    Not at all. England will be as strong as they always are at this level.
    Hagz wrote: »
    Any word on the XV for the u19s?
    IRELAND U19 to play France U19 – Thursday 17th April.
    15. Billy Dardis (UCD – Leinster)
    14. Ciaran Gaffney (Galwegians – Connacht)
    13. Gary Ringrose (UCD – Leinster)
    12. Harrison Brewer (Terenure – Leinster)
    11. Jack Owens (Campbell Belfast – Ulster)
    10. Sean O'Hagan (Corinthians – Connacht)
    9. Jack Cullen (Bruff – Munster)

    1. Jeremy Loughman (Blackrock College – Leinster)
    2. Sean McNulty (UCD – Munster)
    3. Oisin Heffernan (Lansdowne – Leinster)
    4. Josh Murphy (UCD – Leinster)
    5. Alex Thompson (Methody Belfast – Ulster)
    6. Stephen McVeigh (Clongowes – Leinster)
    7. Ben Kilkenny (St Munchins – Munster)
    8. Lorcan Dow (Queen's University – Ulster)

    Replacements
    16. Steven Weir (Methody Belfast– Ulster)
    17. Michael Lagan (Methody Belfast– Ulster)
    18. Mike O'Donnell (Crescent College – Munster)
    19. Josh Davidson (Sullivan Upper – Ulster)
    20. Ross Todd (Sullivan Upper School – Ulster)
    21. Conor Young (Instonians – Ulster)
    22. Josh Bingham (Methodist College – Ulster)
    23. Fergal Cleary (Clongowes – Leinster)


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    #2226
    Hagz
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    FellasFellas was spot on.


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    #2227
    funtime93
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    Saw the French 19's team on grafton street today.They're huge.Looked like a senior team to me.


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    #2228
    yuinc
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    that backrow is interesting, all of them have played 8 for most of their career.

    McVeigh wasn't really on the radar until his big senior cup season.


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    #2229
    The Lost Sheep
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    yuinc wrote: »
    that backrow is interesting, all of them have played 8 for most of their career.

    McVeigh wasn't really on the radar until his big senior cup season.
    Most backrows at u/age international level primarily will have played most of their rugby with club/school at 8. best player and better for club/school if at 8 but at higher level will have to make allowances for others who are as good/better


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    #2230
    FellasFellas
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    Hagz wrote: »
    FellasFellas was spot on.

    I was torn between Cleary and O'Hagan but I thought O'Hagan would get the nod in the end, with Cleary to maybe come on at 12/13.


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    #2231
    funtime93
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    Why no Andy Marks?Should be there IMO.


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    #2232
    Hagz
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    funtime93 wrote: »
    Why no Andy Marks?Should be there IMO.

    Had surgery apparently.


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    #2233
    stellenbosch
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    Hagz wrote: »
    Had surgery apparently.

    While AM is a good player and is having surgery he would not have been involved in this u19 squad from my sources close to the camp. He has played very little rep rugby. He did not make the Irish U18s last year for the FIRA tournament,did not start any of the U19 or U18 interpros. He was not involved with the Irish 19s squad last autumn either. The players selected ahead of him for this squad and others not selected(Brennan/Courtney/Leavy) are also very good players and have been extensively involved in the rep squads over the past few years. The selectors can only pick so many!

    The other point I would make in relation to AM is what is his best position? For me its FULL BACK as he is a very good broken field runner and not centre as his defence in that position was exposed badly in the u19 warm up game against Italy in August. He Came on as a sub in the U19 interpro against Munster at 15.


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    #2234
    Hagz
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    Ireland u19s defeat France 31-20
    http://www.irishrugby.ie/rugby/fixturesandresults/31579.php

    Tries from Sean McNulty, Jack Owens, Gary Ringrose, Sean O'Hagan and Alex Thompson.


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    #2235
    yuinc
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    Thought Brewer and Ringrose partnership really played well today..


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    #2236
    Stanza2
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    yuinc wrote: »
    Thought Brewer and Ringrose partnership really played well today..

    Ringrose looked good both in defence and attack. Brewers was just ok.


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    #2237
    ArmchairQB
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    Stanza2 wrote: »
    Ringrose looked good both in defence and attack. Brewers was just ok.

    Ringrose was my man of the match, Brewer was average did nothing to stand out at all, The Ulster 11 Owens a very big man was pretty good early on and 14 Gaffney was good as well and Josh Murphy had a very good game at 2nd row

    Will be a different team next week


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    #2238
    jakedood
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    Just a query guys, I'm an ulsterman, and actually went to school with Ross Todd and Josh Davidson. How well did the Irish pack to against France U-19's, and what do you think are the chances of them getting a run out in the second match (Davidson plays second row, Todd can play anywhere in back row)


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    #2239
    ArmchairQB
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    jakedood wrote: »
    Just a query guys, I'm an ulsterman, and actually went to school with Ross Todd and Josh Davidson. How well did the Irish pack to against France U-19's, and what do you think are the chances of them getting a run out in the second match (Davidson plays second row, Todd can play anywhere in back row)

    If Davidson played 2nd row yesterday he had a good game not sure what number Todd was or if he played. The pack held tough had a few difficult scrums but coped well against a much bigger unit and finished better at the end.

    I wouldn't read to much into selection as it will be about seeing lads in games and how they cope suspect everyone will get a run


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    #2240
    jakedood
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    ArmchairQB wrote: »
    If Davidson played 2nd row yesterday he had a good game not sure what number Todd was or if he played. The pack held tough had a few difficult scrums but coped well against a much bigger unit and finished better at the end.

    They both started on the bench, and don't think either of them were used as subs, but good to know that, thanks a million!


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    #2241
    The Lost Sheep
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    FIRA final tomorrow is being shown on 3e. coverage starts 3.15/3.20


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    #2242
    Stanza2
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    jakedood wrote: »
    Just a query guys, I'm an ulsterman, and actually went to school with Ross Todd and Josh Davidson. How well did the Irish pack to against France U-19's, and what do you think are the chances of them getting a run out in the second match (Davidson plays second row, Todd can play anywhere in back row)

    As I understand it, the second game will field a completely different starting 15, so every chance that they will get a game


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    #2243
    the baby bull elephant
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    FIRA final tomorrow is being shown on 3e. coverage starts 3.15/3.20

    Sky is telling me they're showing friends...


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    #2244
    Hagz
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    Team to play in the final against England

    15. Jacob Stockdale
    14. Jordan Larmour
    13. Jack Power
    12. Colm Mulcahy
    11. Calvin Nash
    10. Matthew Gilsenan
    9. Rowan Osbourne
    1. Andrew Porter
    2. John Molony
    3. Conan O'Donnell
    4. James Ryan ©
    5. Sean O'Connor
    6. Will Connors
    7. Johnny Guy
    8. Max Deegan

    16. Hugo Keane
    17. Conor McIlmurray
    18. Conor Kenny
    19. Peter Claffey
    20. Greg Jones
    21. David Duggan
    22. Jimmy O'Brien
    23. Paul Kiernan
    24. Oisin O'Meara
    25. Alan McMahon


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    #2245
    The Lost Sheep
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    Stanza2 wrote: »
    As I understand it, the second game will field a completely different starting 15, so every chance that they will get a game
    With the games only being friendlys everyone will get a start as they should
    the baby bull elephant wrote: »
    Sky is telling me they're showing friends...
    I know but that's what some of the journalists were tweeting earlier


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    #2246
    Hagz
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    3e tweeted 30 mins ago that it would be shown at 3.25, so maybe it just hasn't been updated on the tv guide.


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    #2247
    Board_man
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    jakedood wrote: »
    They both started on the bench, and don't think either of them were used as subs, but good to know that, thanks a million!

    Both Todd and Davidson to start in the 2nd fixture on tuesday


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    #2248
    Board_man
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    My expected team to play France in the return U19 fixture. Given the squad announcement last week and the players who played yesterday I can imagine there to be almost a completely new team.
    Michael Lagan
    Steven Weir
    Mike O'Donnell
    Cian Romaine
    Josh Davidson
    Marc Kelly
    Conor Oliver
    Ross Todd
    Conor Young
    Josh Bingham
    Cian O'Donohugh
    Fergal Cleary
    Jack Owens
    Greg O'Shea
    Stephen Fitzgerald


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    #2249
    The Lost Sheep
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    10-7 to England 20 minutes gone
    Jack Power with Irish Try


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    #2250
    The Lost Sheep
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    Good score by Will Connors
    Ireland lead 12-10 with conv to come


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    #2251
    The Lost Sheep
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    Match report from FIRA final
    http://www.irishrugby.ie/rugby/fixturesandresults/31620.php


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