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Fiesta ST 1.6 Ecoboost 180bhp 6 speed.

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    #1142
    hooch-85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    There was nearly 8k off the Focus ST in Jan 16 iirc. 5k off the Fiesta.


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    #1143
    hooch-85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    Paddy@CIRL wrote: »
    I only know because my all lad just ordered a new Focus ST, which had €8,750 off the top before he even mentioned his trade-in or started to negotiate. Cracking value, even for a Ford :D
    hooch-85 wrote: »
    There was nearly 8k off the Focus ST in Jan 16 iirc. 5k off the Fiesta.

    Correction 9k!


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    #1144
    PCeeeee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    Not on today's topic but I just asked the cost of changing my insurance over to a ST.

    They won't quote it. If I provide proof of ownership they'd send it to the underwriters. The kicker is I'm 40. Currently insured on a DC2 type r.


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    #1145
    Mc Love
    Registered Users Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    PCeeeee wrote: »
    Not on today's topic but I just asked the cost of changing my insurance over to a ST.

    They won't quote it. If I provide proof of ownership they'd send it to the underwriters. The kicker is I'm 40. Currently insured on a DC2 type r.

    Thats unreal!


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    #1146
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    PCeeeee wrote: »
    Not on today's topic but I just asked the cost of changing my insurance over to a ST.

    They won't quote it. If I provide proof of ownership they'd send it to the underwriters. The kicker is I'm 40. Currently insured on a DC2 type r.

    Insurance companies bug the s**t out of me TBH.


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    #1147
    ShadowHearth
    Registered Users Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    PCeeeee wrote: »
    Not on today's topic but I just asked the cost of changing my insurance over to a ST.

    They won't quote it. If I provide proof of ownership they'd send it to the underwriters. The kicker is I'm 40. Currently insured on a DC2 type r.

    Newer Focus st are nasty to get insured and fiesta st is actually strangely cheap. Lads here were showing off their premiums and they were all in region of 600ish.

    I know its different car, but its a newer hot hatch too. Seat ibiza cupra and my quotes were very nasty this year. Liberty had balls to ask me 2700eu!!! Others 1100-1500eu. Keep in mind I am 32 with 9 ncb! Cheapest one I got was from my broker I used last year for 995eu.

    Insurance companies just dont like hot hatches, no matter how new or old they are.


    We still dont have pricing for new fiesta st here in Ireland?


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    #1148
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Ya my insurance went up slightly for last year, 2nd year of ownership in the Fiesta, 31, 9 years NCB and it went from 660 (IIRC) to over 850, changed companies and added herself to the policy to bring it back down to about 670 (IIRC).

    Cant wait for July to see what I get quoted with another years older and another year NCB, I'm expecting a hike, it only goes one way. :rolleyes:

    No price update on the new Fiesta ST yet.

    I'm going to call into CAB tomorrow see if they know anything, although I'm very 50/50 about selling my Mk7 ST at the moemnt and plowing the money into saving hard for the final stages of a mortgage for a few months and coming back to a MK8 down the line.

    I just cant pull myself to take the pictures, advertise it and pick something up for 6-12months.


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    #1149
    Paudee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 488 ✭✭Paudee


    Has anybody else had issues with window rattle?

    The driver's side is driving me mental, I said it to them at the last service. Naturally they said they'd have a look then did absolutely nothing.


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    #1150
    vintagevrs
    Registered Users Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    Is it expected that when Ford announce the ST in Ireland that they will have all the prices and options online? Is this expected in the next few weeks? I'm guessing all new STs will be 191 at this stage.


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    #1151
    hooch-85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    vintagevrs wrote: »
    Is it expected that when Ford announce the ST in Ireland that they will have all the prices and options online? Is this expected in the next few weeks? I'm guessing all new STs will be 191 at this stage.

    Looks that way, maybe a few demo's might be registered in 182. I'm hoping they offer all the buyers of Mk7 ST's a day to test out the Mk8, even though i don't think i'll buy one. I think Ford will have to make their finance a bit more attractive for people to pay €30k+ on a Fiesta.


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    #1152
    vintagevrs
    Registered Users Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    Was the mk7 low 20s when they were doing their deals? Looks like the mk8 is a cracking car but the price could be getting a little rich as you say


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    #1153
    hooch-85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    vintagevrs wrote: »
    Was the mk7 low 20s when they were doing their deals? Looks like the mk8 is a cracking car but the price could be getting a little rich as you say

    Yes an ST2 was approx €23.5 ex delivery and depending on colour, Spirit Blue was €950 extra.


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    #1154
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    hooch-85 wrote: »
    Looks that way, maybe a few demo's might be registered in 182. I'm hoping they offer all the buyers of Mk7 ST's a day to test out the Mk8, even though i don't think i'll buy one. I think Ford will have to make their finance a bit more attractive for people to pay €30k+ on a Fiesta.

    24h test drive will never happen I think.


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    #1155
    hooch-85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    24h test drive will never happen I think.

    Could you be tempted back into one?


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    #1156
    JoeA3
    Registered Users Posts: 7,424 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Henry Ford III wrote: »
    24h test drive will never happen I think.

    Why not? Assuming a dealer has one and you're known to him (previous customer, etc), getting one for a few hours or even a night shouldn't be difficult.


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    #1157
    ShadowHearth
    Registered Users Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    hooch-85 wrote: »
    Yes an ST2 was approx €23.5 ex delivery and depending on colour, Spirit Blue was €950 extra.

    When they launched previous model it was 27k ish. So unfortunately I can see new one being 30k ish. Polo gti with price tag of 32k makes me not bring my hopes up that new fiesta st will be below 30k.


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    #1158
    hooch-85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    ShadowHearth wrote: »
    When they launched previous model it was 27k ish. So unfortunately I can see new one being 30k ish. Polo gti with price tag of 32k makes me not bring my hopes up that new fiesta st will be below 30k.

    Totally, can't see them being any less than 30k


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    #1159
    JoeA3
    Registered Users Posts: 7,424 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    hooch-85 wrote: »
    Totally, can't see them being any less than 30k

    On the flip side, if you were trading in your current ST, the higher price of the new one should help “artificially” improve their valuation of your car. So the cost-to-change shouldn’t vary that much in theory.


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    #1160
    vintagevrs
    Registered Users Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    Haha, your fond of your man maths Joe.


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    #1161
    GavRedKing
    Registered Users Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Was just having a look at the new Polo GTi on the VW site, after adding a few options to it, you're talking roughly €35k.

    You'd get a nearly new Golf GTi for that money. :o


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    #1162
    hooch-85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭hooch-85


    GavRedKing wrote: »
    Was just having a look at the new Polo GTi on the VW site, after adding a few options to it, you're talking roughly €35k.

    You'd get a nearly new Golf GTi for that money. :o

    A new Leon Cupra 300 starts at 36k. Could be tempted by one of those next year.


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    #1163
    BlackandGreen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭BlackandGreen


    Whats the appeal of a fiest ST over a focus ST, does it purely come down to price?


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    #1164
    PCeeeee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    Of the last iterations of each the Fiesta was supposed to be better to drive.

    I'm not sure how much that swings a potential customer.


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    #1165
    testicles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭testicles


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    #1166
    JoeA3
    Registered Users Posts: 7,424 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    testicles wrote: »
    You would, but you'd be adding a few extras to the Golf GTI too, in which case you'd nearly get a new Golf R for that money.....

    Yeah... you could make the “sure you could get X for that money” argument for any car. Spend 55-60k on a Golf R / Focus RS and people will say “sure you could get a used RS3 or an M4 for that...”.

    It’s all about personal choice. Some might put a high value on the new car smell, the 182 plate and the attractive finance on a brand new car.

    The price differential between one model and another may seem small but you need to compare like with like. While a new Polo with a couple of options ticked might be closing in on 35k, a new Golf GTI is now closing in on 50k... so the actual gap is bigger than you might think!

    That said, I would have a slightly used larger equivalent over a new Fiesta/Polo every day of the week.


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    #1167
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,178 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    BlackandGreen wrote: »
    Whats the appeal of a fiest ST over a focus ST, does it purely come down to price?

    If your talking about the current generation of both then the Fiesta is universally seen as a more accomplished car than the Focus.


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    #1168
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    bazz26 wrote: »
    If your talking about the current generation of both then the Fiesta is universally seen as a more accomplished car than the Focus.

    I've never even seen a current generation Fiesta, and the old one is ancient.


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    testicles
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    #1170
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,178 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    I've never even seen a current generation Fiesta, and the old one is ancient.

    I'm referring to the last model Fiesta ST irrespective of sage, gets better reviews than the current Focus ST. The new Fiesta ST I don't even think is gone on sale yet.


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    #1171
    Henry Ford III
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,684 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    2 hot hatches but quite different in character. Both are quick but the Focus is bigger and heavier. It doesn't handle in as involving way as its smaller brother. The Fiesta ST is a brilliant small car and a future classic.


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