Breaking:Large explosion at public event in Boston***Mod warning in OP**

Pompey Magnus

The Black Oil wrote: »

One suspect dead. One at large. Armed and dangerous. White hat suspect at large.

I don't think one is dead, they showed a video of him being put into a police car naked with no obvious serious injuries.

Edit: CNN is saying he is dead. That has me confused now...he looked fine getting into the car.

whatstherush

The Black Oil wrote: »

Listening to WBUR.

Boston PD Police Commissioner has posted confirmation via twitter.

https://twitter.com/EdDavis3/status/325157562955751424

One suspect dead. One at large. Armed and dangerous. White hat suspect at large.

If ones dead and the other is still on the run, this poor fella must have been in the wrong place at the wrong time. They made him strip incase he had any bombs strapped to him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97rHTV_AaW0

vronki

Pageant Messiah wrote: »

Somewhere in there you need to square up the fact that only one party wished it on innocent people supporting their loved ones running / raising funds for charity.

Murder is murder. Violence is not the answer. His desires (like yours) highlight the hypocrisy in this thread.

FionnK86

The other suspect is in a lockdown area of 12 blocks, im sure some of the residents there are happy of their right to bear arms now.

Ericaa

Police just spotted suspect 2. Jesus I'm nervous just watching a live stream of this. Makes you realise how amazing the police force can be. Let's hope they don't lose another.

kunst nugget

FionnK86 wrote: »

The other suspect is in a lockdown area of 12 blocks, im sure some of the residents there are happy of their right to bear arms now.

I'm trying to understand the logic behind this. What difference does it make that people have the right to bear arms when police have a suspect surrounded? It's not like the police are going to be knocking door to door asking for people with guns to help them out in their siege and if another bomb goes off what goods a gun in your house going to do you?

Ericaa

Suspect 2 apparently seen with explosive device on his chest.

the keen edge

kunst nugget wrote: »

I'm trying to understand the logic behind this. What difference does it make that people have the right to bear arms when police have a suspect surrounded? It's not like the police are going to be knocking door to door asking for people with guns to help them out in their siege and if another bomb goes off what goods a gun in your house going to do you?

Because as we all know, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

Kerrydude1981

Warning people to stay away from 500 Memorial Drive due to suspicious package

martyfurey

has anybody got any good stream links.

Duggy747

3 injured officers just announced on the scanner.

Stream here

opinion guy

This is some crazy ass sh1t

efb

vronki wrote: »

All you're doing is revealing the violence in your own heart, which in a way, makes you just as guilty as these bombers. Kind of defeats the whole point of criticizing their work.

I don't want innocent people harmed

Jonny7

kunst nugget wrote: »

I'm trying to understand the logic behind this. What difference does it make that people have the right to bear arms when police have a suspect surrounded? It's not like the police are going to be knocking door to door asking for people with guns to help them out in their siege and if another bomb goes off what goods a gun in your house going to do you?

The police are going door to door.. residents have been told to stay inside, only to answer the door to identified police officers and no one else

The suspect apparently has an assault rifle and is extremely dangerous, one cop shot dead and another in critical.

If they were caught in MIT grounds with pressure cookers, well putting 2 + 2 they may have been planting devices (again speculation)

Either case they were pursued, one is dead the other I am sure, is Very determined not to be taken alive.. and could very well decide to try and take some people with him

Pacing Mule

vronki wrote: »

Murder is murder. Violence is not the answer. His desires (like yours) highlight the hypocrisy in this thread.

Except that nobody advocated murder. I certainly didn't.

Aside from that my point is that there are two levels to this. It's not a black and white situation. You can't equal the murder of the innocent people to someone wishing harm on those who murderered them.

stevenmu

martyfurey wrote: »

has anybody got any good stream links.

Reddit has a good thread being updated live if you can't listen to the stream:

http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1co395/live_updates_of_boston_situation_part_2/

Solair

You'd definitely be best to stay indoors, (far away from windows) and lock everything and just keep an eye on the TV if you're in that area.

There'll be a lot of nervous, heavily armed police and possibly nervous heavily armed civilians in the US too.

The police would want to make sure they're REALLY identifying themselves very clearly. A lot of people probably wouldn't open the door at all.

Duggy747

Sounds like they were either ready for another attack / expecting a battle as they reportedly threw a grenade(s) at a cop car.

Suspicion they were around MIT planting devices when the campus officer caught them and was then killed.

Pacing Mule

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

I don't think one is dead, they showed a video of him being put into a police car naked with no obvious serious injuries.

Edit: CNN is saying he is dead. That has me confused now...he looked fine getting into the car.

And the video of the arrest has been taken off the CNN home page.

Either the guy wasn't one of the original suspects (be that completely uninvolved or there was more than 2 in the plot) or someone got murdered in police custody and a cover up has started. I am thinking option 1 though.

stevenmu

Yeah, there has been a lot of reports of more pressure cooker bombs, and the bomb squad have been called a number of times.

roryc

WTF- so this missing student actually was one of the bombers?

Kerrydude1981

They have to take in suspect number two alive,so the whole world can find out there motives for the bombings.

FBI press conference due to start soon

stevenmu

The naked guy who was arrested wasn't one of the suspects and has been cleared/released.

One of the suspects was arrested though, was pronounced dead at a local hospital, and there have been rumours that he had an explosive device strapped to his chest.

kunst nugget

Jonny7 wrote: »

The police are going door to door.. residents have been told to stay inside, only to answer the door to identified police officers and no one else

The suspect apparently has an assault rifle and is extremely dangerous, one cop shot dead and another in critical.

If they were caught in MIT grounds with pressure cookers, well putting 2 + 2 they may have been planting devices (again speculation)

Either case they were pursued, one is dead the other I am sure, is Very determined not to be taken alive.. and could very well decide to try and take some people with him

They're not going door to door to tell people to get their guns ready though, are they. The police have the area in lockdown. They won't want people coming out with guns trying to be heroes and making a very bad situation even worse.

EuskalHerria

Pageant Messiah wrote: »

And the video of the arrest has been taken off the CNN home page.

Either the guy wasn't one of the original suspects (be that completely uninvolved or there was more than 2 in the plot) or someone got murdered in police custody and a cover up has started. I am thinking option 1 though.

Haven't they confirmed that the guy put in the police car was suspect number 1 who then died of his injuries? Couldn't see any visible injuries on him myself but I'm almost certain that's what has been reported and confirmed by BPD.

Solair

I'm still just absolutely amazed that the US police forces aren't using 100% digital and encrypted radio like over here. Surely there's a strong possibility that the suspects / people supporting them could be listening to police radio, even if it's only local police.

It's enough to potentially compromise aspects the operation.

Given all the cash spent on post 9/11 security, you'd think the federal government / homeland security would have coughed up the funds for TETRA radio or something similar in the states.

TETRA and pretty serious encryption are the absolute norm for all police / EMS communication in Europe.

Duggy747

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

They have to take in suspect number two alive,so the whole world can find out there motives for the bombings.

FBI press conference due to start soon

He reportedly has a device strapped to him and is fairly armed to the teeth (he's injured 3 officers at a mall)

If true, it'll be quite the task to take him alive. Hopefully, he won't top himself and they'll get him alive.

rebel girl 15

Argh, sitting at work and can't listen to the scanner, very frustrating. Really hope they get the other guy alive, so a motive can be ascertained. It must be so frightening for the residents

Pacing Mule

EuskalHerria wrote: »

Haven't they confirmed that the guy out in the police car was suspect number 1 who then died of his injuries. Couldn't see any visible injuries on him but I'm almost certains that's what's been reported and confirmed by BPD.

It's all over the place reporting wise. The guy who was arrested walked out apparently injury free, no blood etc and bollock naked to the cop car. If he has actually died from injuries sustained ...... Well draw your own conclusions.

Duggy747

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Argh, sitting at work and can't listen to the scanner, very frustrating. Really hope they get the other guy alive, so a motive can be ascertained. It must be so frightening for the residents

stevenmu wrote: »

http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1co395/live_updates_of_boston_situation_part_2/

This is pretty much the scanner in text form being regularly updated.