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DCM 2013: Mentored Novices Thread......Take 2

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    #392
    tommycahir
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    career_move wrote: »
    What kind of mileage were you doing for the Kildare HM? Have you any other races planned before Carlow?

    Generally I was clocking up 15-20km per week in the build up to Kildare but was a very interupted training with chest infection and life with a baby getting in the way..Generally before that I had been covered 20-30km per week.


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    #393
    statss
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    Ososlo wrote: »
    so fellow novices, who's up for the race series? 5 miler is a biatch of a course. ran most of it Tuesday. those feckin hills do not make for a pb race but i guess it's good to challenge oneself an not pick the easier flat races all the time. good prep for hills in October :@)

    I signed up for all of them. Racing stops me slacking. I did the Frank Duffy 10 mile as my 3rd ever race last August, really got hooked after that. Loved the big atmosphere feel.


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    #394
    Nappy
    Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭Nappy


    Ososlo wrote: »
    so fellow novices, who's up for the race series? 5 miler is a biatch of a course. ran most of it Tuesday. those feckin hills do not make for a pb race but i guess it's good to challenge oneself an not pick the easier flat races all the time. good prep for hills in October :@)

    I'm doing the race series. Only started running properly last month. I was thinking of starting the HH novice 1 marathon plan and squeezing the race series into that somehow. Will be starting proper training on the 27th, cant wait!


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    #395
    career_move
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    tommycahir wrote: »
    Generally I was clocking up 15-20km per week in the build up to Kildare but was a very interupted training with chest infection and life with a baby getting in the way..Generally before that I had been covered 20-30km per week.
    Well you have 5 weeks to play with if you're starting on Monday. I would be looking at repeating some of the big mileage weeks. You should be able to get another 2 x 20m long runs in if you plan it right but don't forget about the step back weeks


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    #396
    shortstuff!
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    career_move wrote: »
    I'd stick to the 4 miles tomorrow, rest on Sunday and then do 2 slow miles on Mon to loosen the legs out for the race on Tues. Keep gently stretching the calf muscles for 20 - 30 secs a couple of times a day and make sure you do a mile or so very slowly to warm up before the race

    Great thanks a mill C_M! Looking forward to the race now:)


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    #397
    Ososlo
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    Ososlo wrote: »
    so fellow novices, who's up for the race series? 5 miler is a biatch of a course. ran most of it Tuesday. those feckin hills do not make for a pb race but i guess it's good to challenge oneself an not pick the easier flat races all the time. good prep for hills in October :@)

    actually, i was wrong. It will be a pb race 'cause i've never done a 5 mile race before :D:D:D


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    #398
    career_move
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    Speaking of races it would be nice if everyone could do a small race in the next few weeks. It's just so you can get a good idea of where exactly you're at before the marathon plan starts and it will give a good baseline for working out training paces :)


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    #399
    AlsoRan
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    Ososlo wrote: »
    actually, i was wrong. It will be a pb race 'cause i've never done a 5 mile race before :D:D:D

    I'll be doing all bar the 5 mile as I'm away. I found them great last year, as there was a really good atmosphere and the races forced me to do some training. Never enjoy the hills in the park though, they kill me.

    Interestingly, I went to the chiropodist today over my foot swelling, turns out I have ended up with arthritis over a period of time due to leg length difference/flat feet and my dominant leg over-correcting. So I'm now going to be running with custom made insoles in 6-8 weeks time. I'm convincing myself that all of a sudden this is going to speed me up. Roll on the race series!!


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    #400
    AlsoRan
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    career_move wrote: »
    Speaking of races it would be nice if everyone could do a small race in the next few weeks. It's just so you can get a good idea of where exactly you're at before the marathon plan starts and it will give a good baseline for working out training paces :)

    The parkruns are great if the location is anywhere near you. I run this most weeks and it is great when you see an improvement. People are chatty as well so you can get a few ideas/tips.


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    #401
    Nappy
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    I'll be making good use of the parkruns too. Aiming to get a PB in the morning.


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    #402
    Ososlo
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    Nappy wrote: »
    I'll be making good use of the parkruns too. Aiming to get a PB in the morning.

    Best of luck Nappy! Get a good night's sleep:)


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    #403
    Nappy
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    Got myself a PB this morning. Beat my time by 4 seconds ish (still haven't got actual results yet). It was a horrific run mainly because I made a few bad decisions. One being to run in the sub 20 line at the start(past pb = 21mins) and the second was trying to outrun the pros. This worked bar one little racer for about 800m before I realised I was burning out. I finished the first K in 3 mins and 30 secs and watched many a racer pass me for the final 4K. I finished just under 21 mins. Was a bit dissapointed but learned a few valuable lessons. The marathon right now seeems like Everest!


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    #404
    Ososlo
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    Nappy wrote: »
    Got myself a PB this morning. Beat my time by 4 seconds ish (still haven't got actual results yet). It was a horrific run mainly because I made a few bad decisions. One being to run in the sub 20 line at the start(past pb = 21mins) and the second was trying to outrun the pros. This worked bar one little racer for about 800m before I realised I was burning out. I finished the first K in 3 mins and 30 secs and watched many a racer pass me for the final 4K. I finished just under 21 mins. Was a bit dissapointed but learned a few valuable lessons. The marathon right now seeems like Everest!

    Great to get a pb. Work out those racing strategy issues and you'll kill that time again next race. Don't know what Parkrun it was but if it was Malahide then I was 1 min slower than in a 5k road race I did a few weeks after it. I think most people found it a bit slower due to narrow paths etc. Great thing about Parkrun is that you can try again next week!
    Nice 11 mile slow one done myself this morning. Freezing cold though! My hands were numb for ages afterwards.


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    #405
    Murph_D
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    Nappy wrote: »
    Got myself a PB this morning. Beat my time by 4 seconds ish (still haven't got actual results yet). It was a horrific run mainly because I made a few bad decisions. One being to run in the sub 20 line at the start

    Which parkrun has a "sub-20 line", even unofficially? Sounds a bit against the spirit of parkrun to be honest!


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    #406
    Nappy
    Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭Nappy


    I was in Marley this morning and just before it started the guy doing the countdown said sub 20's only up the front. I wouldn't say it's an enforced rule now, he just mentioned it to front line before kicking off.

    Ososlo you need to invest in some gloves!


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    #407
    Ososlo
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    Nappy wrote: »
    I was in Marley this morning and just before it started the guy doing the countdown said sub 20's only up the front. I wouldn't say it's an enforced rule now, he just mentioned it to front line before kicking off.

    Ososlo you need to invest in some gloves!

    usually wear 'em but thought, c'mon it's 18th of feckin' May, surely I don't need them:rolleyes:
    I'll be wearin them tomorrow.


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    #408
    Murph_D
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    Nappy wrote: »
    I was in Marley this morning and just before it started the guy doing the countdown said sub 20's only up the front. I wouldn't say it's an enforced rule now, he just mentioned it to front line before kicking off.

    That's a pity, to be sure.


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    #409
    Ososlo
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    murphd77 wrote: »
    That's a pity, to be sure.

    maybe it was more out of concern for runners getting trampled up front by the faster guys. Not really in the spirit of Parkrun though I agree


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    #410
    Murph_D
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    Ososlo wrote: »
    maybe it was more out of concern for runners getting trampled up front by the faster guys.

    Has that happened before?:eek:


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    #411
    Ososlo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    murphd77 wrote: »
    Has that happened before?:eek:

    not in my experience. anyone else?


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    #412
    Laois_Man
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    Been away from this thread for a couple of weeks...it just took me over an hour to catch up :|

    No been away from the running though. After my disasterous April with injuries, I'm now back to running 20 miles a week. Not quite where I was in early April....but getting there...and still a bit nervous about my issues returning as I am still feeling it a tiny bit.

    If only.....where would I be now if it hadn't been for that injury!


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    #413
    liamo66
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    murphd77 wrote: »
    Which parkrun has a "sub-20 line", even unofficially? Sounds a bit against the spirit of parkrun to be honest!

    Not sure what happens at Malahide but at Marlay we ask sub 20 runners to step to the front at the start. This is to prevent congestion at the first turn around the lamp post.


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    #414
    DULLAHAN2
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    Ran a small pb in an 8km there on friday which i am happy with. My running has come on an awful lot from where it was 3 months ago. I have entered the Dunshaughlin 10 km on the 22 june. Its perfect timing as it is only 2 days before the marathon plan starts and i'm looking for a Pb in it. Is anyone else doing it? It will keep me focused to get out there running.


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    #415
    Big Logger
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    DULLAHAN2 wrote: »
    Ran a small pb in an 8km there on friday which i am happy with. My running has come on an awful lot from where it was 3 months ago. I have entered the Dunshaughlin 10 km on the 22 june. Its perfect timing as it is only 2 days before the marathon plan starts and i'm looking for a Pb in it. Is anyone else doing it? It will keep me focused to get out there running.

    Its a very popular 10k for the folks on boards. I'll be surprised if you don't spot a few of them.


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    #416
    HelenAnne
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    Ososlo wrote: »
    maybe it was more out of concern for runners getting trampled up front by the faster guys. Not really in the spirit of Parkrun though I agree

    In Malahide last week it was mentioned that people MIGHT like to line up in some sort of speed order. But it certainly wasn't enforced or anything. The run director just told us that the average finishing time in the runs so far had been 26 mins, so if people were faster than that they might start in the front half of the crowd and vice versa. I thought it was just a guideline for new runners to the pace others might be running. With over 400 runners I think it's fair enough to give people (especially new runners) an idea of where to start. It's not even about being trampled, it's just nicer to run near people of your own pace, and makes for a better experience for everyone.


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    #417
    shortstuff!
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    DULLAHAN2 wrote: »
    Ran a small pb in an 8km there on friday which i am happy with. My running has come on an awful lot from where it was 3 months ago. I have entered the Dunshaughlin 10 km on the 22 june. Its perfect timing as it is only 2 days before the marathon plan starts and i'm looking for a Pb in it. Is anyone else doing it? It will keep me focused to get out there running.

    Well done on the pb! I'll be doing the dunshaughlin 10km aswell I think:)


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    #418
    Milknosugar
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    After two physio sessions, my shin splints are still tender and sore. He said to ice them and try a couple of miles on tues/Wed and see how I feel then for the race at the weekend.
    Ive done nothing since the pretty awful 10k last week but I think im ok for the half on sat. There seems to be plenty of walkers for this event so hopefully I wont be last. I think Ill relax and enjoy it and not put myself under any pressure - that might all change on the day though!


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    #419
    Darren 83
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    Did my longest run yesterday 15.38 miles took me 2:29 kept it at a steady pace at 9:40. Would love to keep that pace for DCM.


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    Ososlo
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    Darren 83 wrote: »
    Did my longest run yesterday 15.38 miles took me 2:29 kept it at a steady pace at 9:40. Would love to keep that pace for DCM.

    well done Darren. Great session. I think however that most people will advise you than you should be doing your long runs at 60 to 90 seconds (at least) slower than your marathon pace to reap the greatest benefit from them. The experts can jump in here.
    Nice confidence booster for you though :)


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    #421
    Darren 83
    Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Darren 83


    Ososlo wrote: »
    well done Darren. Great session. I think however that most people will advise you than you should be doing your long runs at 60 to 90 seconds (at least) slower than your marathon pace to reap the greatest benefit from them. The experts can jump in here.
    Nice confidence booster for you though :)

    Cheers Ososlo,:D I use mc millan training paces with a recent time plugged in from a 10k race, I honestly don't have a time set in stone for DCM.


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