Macklemore is raps saviour!

danbrosnan

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Fúcking hell :eek::eek:

Over reaction of the week goes to............

The guy is an alcoholic. It's not an opinion or an insult or a disgracefull insinuation, it's a self confessed fact. What's the problem?

"Technically he is an alcoholic".. He is a drug addict as well?? What about yourself??

My problem is the way it was worded and i honesty dont think anybody should call another person an alcoholic... Thats just my opinion!! Where does he say he is an alcoholic and like somebody said " he goes to aa meetings"???

Please tell me where macklemore says that!!! I stand to be corrected!!!??

floggg

danbrosnan wrote: »

"Technically he is an alcoholic".. He is a drug addict as well?? What about yourself??

My problem is the way it was worded and i honesty dont think anybody should call another person an alcoholic... Thats just my opinion!! Where does he say he is an alcoholic and like somebody said " he goes to aa meetings"???

Please tell me where macklemore says that!!! I stand to be corrected!!!??

For such a Stan, I thought you would have heard The Other Side or Starting Over. Pretty clearly deals with his substance abuse, and attendance at AA meetings.

You have heard the Heist, yea?

Jimmy Iovine

floggg wrote: »

For such a Stan, I thought you would have heard The Other Side or Starting Over. Pretty clearly deals with his substance abuse, and attendance at AA meetings.

You have heard the Heist, yea?

danbrosnan

floggg wrote: »

For such a Stan, I thought you would have heard The Other Side or Starting Over. Pretty clearly deals with his substance abuse, and attendance at AA meetings.

You have heard the Heist, yea?

I am not a stan, i listened to the heist about twenty times and then i put in the cd rack... I don't dream about macklemore, i don't collect newspaper clippings about him, to be honest i don't think he is technically the best rapper at all, even his songs are noting like a Nas or an Eminem track... But what he has done, what he has rapped about, how he has released his cd against the biggest music publishing companies in the world and won... Do people not realise how difficult that is to do... Make your own videos, gather your own fan base and then top every chart in the world... Without the help of a big record company and further more, rap about gay rights issues etc...

Now will somebody tell me where on starting over and otherside, does macklemore state that he goes to a "AA Meeting"...

Mustard seed meetings, narcotics anonymous, thousands apon thousands of motivation meetings, scientology etc..... The list goes on and on...

He says meeting lads which could be a thousand different things...

He talks about substance abuse and alcohol abuse but he does not go to AA meetings...

So please leave the name of AA out the public domain...

danbrosnan

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Please get your facts right before you pull stupid faces...:D

Bobby Baccala

Here @ danbrosnan what is wrong with stating that macklemore is ,n alcoholic that's like getting offended about us saying kurt kobain was a heroin addict or that bob marley smoked too much grass, there's just no sense in it

floggg

danbrosnan wrote: »

I am not a stan, i listened to the heist about twenty times and then i put in the cd rack... I don't dream about macklemore, i don't collect newspaper clippings about him, to be honest i don't think he is technically the best rapper at all, even his songs are noting like a Nas or an Eminem track... But what he has done, what he has rapped about, how he has released his cd against the biggest music publishing companies in the world and won... Do people not realise how difficult that is to do... Make your own videos, gather your own fan base and then top every chart in the world... Without the help of a big record company and further more, rap about gay rights issues etc...

Now will somebody tell me where on starting over and otherside, does macklemore state that he goes to a "AA Meeting"...

Mustard seed meetings, narcotics anonymous, thousands apon thousands of motivation meetings, scientology etc..... The list goes on and on...

He says meeting lads which could be a thousand different things...

He talks about substance abuse and alcohol abuse but he does not go to AA meetings...

So please leave the name of AA out the public domain...

You're tripping because we might have gotten the name of the meeting/organisation wrong, even though they are all very much similar in substance?

It must be great to have only such trivial **** to worry about.

Dr. Greenthumb

http://www.fuse.tv/2013/03/macklemore-sobriety-thrift-shop


While thousands of music industry people and fans were getting wasted at South by Southwest, Macklemore was attending an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting in Austin. "It's very important to go into the rooms of AA, smell the sh-tty coffee and be reminded that without sobriety, I would have no career."

Corrected??

floggg

I take if then we are good to go with this now?

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

danbrosnan

Thank you for stating that he never said it in a song...

Now macklmore is been compared to Kurt cobain and bob Marley, he must be the saviour of rap! :pac:

Bobby Baccala

danbrosnan wrote: »

Thank you for stating that he never said it in a song...

Now macklmore is been compared to Kurt cobain and bob Marley, he must be the saviour of rap! :pac:

Being compared in an addict sense, not musically.

danbrosnan

Seriously do you not see anything wrong with comparing macklemore to kurt cobain and bob marley..

Now he is an addict and an alcoholic...

floggg

danbrosnan wrote: »

Thank you for stating that he never said it in a song...

Now macklmore is been compared to Kurt cobain and bob Marley, he must be the saviour of rap! :pac:

That's not really what I said.

Notwithstanding that it appears from hisinterviews that it is indeed the AA meetings he intends, with it make any substantive difference to your (non-sensual) argument if it an NA rather than an AA meeting he referenced in Starting Over?

danbrosnan wrote: »

Seriously do you not see anything wrong with comparing macklemore to kurt cobain and bob marley..

Now he is an addict and an alcoholic...

Yes, there is.

Chemically at least, weed (or the holy herb for Bob) is a non-addictive substance which doesn't have the same negative impact on users lives or health. It certainly never hindered Bob's creativity or output, nor that of his children.

It's also held religious significance for Bob as a Rasta, something which can't be said for Macklemore or Kurt Kobain.

So yes, I think it's a bit offensive to Bob Marlry to compare his weed usage to Macklemore's drug and alcohol addictions.

Jezek

I came here to discuss Macklemore. What I found was a boring. full of misinformation 'debate' about whether he can be considered an 'alcoholic'.

In any case, Hip Hop doesn't need a saviour, thank you very much. this decade even 3 years in is sooo promising, I have no time to listen to all the great stuff out there. I like Macklemore (well, to a degree, I only kinda fux with him. However, it's the Stans of backpack favourites like Macklemore that are complete fukcbois.

I love commercialism in Hip Hop and ignorance, as much as I love introspection and thoughtful diatribes. The same people calling Mack 'saviour' keep hating on Waka and Gucci. Hip hop as a whole needs Chief Keef as much as Chance the Rapper, and the rappers themselves know it, it's just the backpacking fans that ruin it.

Hello 2D Person Below

I came into this thread to contribute, alas, I dunno what to say now.

Jimmy Iovine

Hello 2D Person Below wrote: »

I came into this thread to contribute, alas, I dunno what to say now.

Say "hello" to me?

Hello 2D Person Below

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Say "hello" to me?

Hello.

*bites lip seductively*

jonneymendoza

**** me this guy won best rap album? i am listening to the Heist album and what is this a joke?

is the grammy's trolling us?

Rjd2

jonneymendoza wrote: »

**** me this guy won best rap album? i am listening to the Heist album and what is this a joke?

is the grammy's trolling us?

Its the Grammys, do people take them seriously at all?

Orizio

This thread makes me physically sick.

jonneymendoza

Rjd2 wrote: »

Its the Grammys, do people take them seriously at all?

So what awards should we take seriously? MTV awards? Brit awards? what? LOL

The Grammy's are suppose to be the very top award you can achieve in music much like the oscar's for movies?

Jezek

jonneymendoza wrote: »

So what awards should we take seriously? MTV awards? Brit awards? what? LOL

The Grammy's are suppose to be the very top award you can achieve in music much like the oscar's for movies?

What about no awards, listen to what you think is good?

kryogen

jonneymendoza wrote: »

**** me this guy won best rap album? i am listening to the Heist album and what is this a joke?

is the grammy's trolling us?

The Heist has some pretty good moments tbh

Wasnt exactly a banner year for Rap albums was it

jonneymendoza

kryogen wrote: »

The Heist has some pretty good moments tbh

Wasnt exactly a banner year for Rap albums was it

what do you mean? there were plenty of good albums. Diddnt Kendrick get nominated? if he did then how did he not win it?

kryogen

jonneymendoza wrote: »

what do you mean? there were plenty of good albums. Diddnt Kendrick get nominated? if he did then how did he not win it?

Didnt get enough votes I would imagine

Are you actually going to try to claim this year was a great one for quality?

T. Hanks

Kendricks performance @ the Grammy's was class, full of energy. Who was the band that played with him?

As for Macklmore ewwww
Awful

jonneymendoza

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Kendricks performance @ the Grammy's was class, full of energy. Who was the band that played with him?

As for Macklmore ewwww
Awful

says it all

Kylo Ren

I thought The Heist was a great album.

I have a feeling if it was not as commercially successful as it was, a lot more people would not be trashing it.

Boom_Bap

Keno wrote: »

I thought The Heist was a great album.

I have a feeling if it was not as commercially successful as it was, a lot more people would not be trashing it.

Have to agree, The Heist is great and is a victim of it's own success in Hip Hop circles. If I take a helicopter view of it, as the album was bubbling, before any videos were released, there was a real 'buzz' of anticipation for the album. Once it got released, there was alot of praise, then when it started to 'cross over' is when it started to get bashed.

The reason why the nominations poured in is simply down to the music and the all round nice guys that Mackelmore & Ryan Lewis are. They were embraced by the normal hip hop outlets, and also by the popular morning/daytime/night time shows accross the large TV networks in the US. Simply put, they were guys that could come on a show and talk about thier history, thier rise to fame, addiction, same sex relations, fashion, etc.

Comparative to Kendrick who most of us would believe had the best album, the exposure that Kendrick had was alot less than Mackelmore & Ryan Lewis. For example, housewives/homemakers would not be toe-tapping to Swimming Pools, whereas they would be shaking thier thang to Thrift Shop. And getting Kendrick onto a day-time TV show to perform B*tch Don't Kill My Vibe would not be something the networks would condone.

So Kendick, better album, Mackelmore & Ryan Lewis, much broader audience and more marketable dudes.

jonneymendoza

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Have to agree, The Heist is great and is a victim of it's own success in Hip Hop circles. If I take a helicopter view of it, as the album was bubbling, before any videos were released, there was a real 'buzz' of anticipation for the album. Once it got released, there was alot of praise, then when it started to 'cross over' is when it started to get bashed.

The reason why the nominations poured in is simply down to the music and the all round nice guys that Mackelmore & Ryan Lewis are. They were embraced by the normal hip hop outlets, and also by the popular morning/daytime/night time shows accross the large TV networks in the US. Simply put, they were guys that could come on a show and talk about thier history, thier rise to fame, addiction, same sex relations, fashion, etc.

Comparative to Kendrick who most of us would believe had the best album, the exposure that Kendrick had was alot less than Mackelmore & Ryan Lewis. For example, housewives/homemakers would not be toe-tapping to Swimming Pools, whereas they would be shaking thier thang to Thrift Shop. And getting Kendrick onto a day-time TV show to perform B*tch Don't Kill My Vibe would not be something the networks would condone.

So Kendick, better album, Mackelmore & Ryan Lewis, much broader audience and more marketable dudes.

But much like the Oscars I thought the Grammy rated music in terms of the actual quality of music not the exposure or number of sales?

That's what my awards does!