Scrap the Irish Language Commissioner

Coles

marienbad wrote: »

For your info Coles I believe this is what most rugby fans do . And those that don't just turn it down to a kind of background hum.

I can't even imagine how you know that, but yet you are presenting it as fact. Oh look! A unicorn!

gobnaitolunacy

Coles wrote: »

I can't even imagine how you know that, but yet you are presenting it as fact. Oh look! A unicorn!

You're pretty good at hard facts yourself...:P


' I think we'll find the support is not all that significant. Also let's keep in mind the fact that people who have a good attitude towards the language typically are better educated and will therefore pay more taxes than the rest of you.'

Coles

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

You're pretty good at hard facts yourself...:P


' I think we'll find the support is not all that significant. Also let's keep in mind the fact that people who have a good attitude towards the language typically are better educated and will therefore pay more taxes than the rest of you.'

I've posted that NUI Maynooth report twice already...

gobnaitolunacy

Coles wrote: »

I've posted that NUI Maynooth report twice already...

Good for you, buddy.

Coles

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

Good for you, buddy.

Thanks bud.

marienbad

Coles wrote: »

I can't even imagine how you know that, but yet you are presenting it as fact. Oh look! A unicorn!

Because it is a common topic of discussion amongst us rugby fans and I did say 'I believe'. Oh Look ! Another needlessly ignorant poster .

Coles

marienbad wrote: »

Because it is a common topic of discussion amongst us rugby fans and I did say 'I believe'. Oh Look ! Another needlessly ignorant poster .

Eh? I'm a rugby fan too! And so are all my friends and family adn it has never been a topic for discussion.
I bet you talk about it!

"Uggh! Listen to that yukky yukky filthy language! Oh dear Jesus! Turn it off! Uhhh. Yuk! Yukky language! Quick, drown it out!!"

marienbad

Coles wrote: »

Eh? I'm a rugby fan too! And so are all my friends and family adn it has never been a topic for discussion.
I bet you talk about it!

"Uggh! Listen to that yukky yukky filthy language! Oh dear Jesus! Turn it off! Uhhh. Yuk! Yukky language! Quick, drown it out!!"

Now you have had bit of help and advice to give your non Irish speaking friends and you don't even need to thank me.

kowloon

Coles wrote: »

TG4 commissions stuff specifically so that it might be exportable.

Here's a link to one.

And you're right about RTE. Complete sh!te.

The format was sold, not the original Irish show. It looks like TG4 are just being cut into a deal that was made between NBC and an independent documentary company, Tile Films. So to say TG4 are making TV with export in mind is stretching it a tad.

Someone made a comment about school books earlier. My thoughts on that: School books are a BS mini-industry. There was a decision made by some third level committee a while back that any book that was revised too often would be taken off reading lists. Barring an overhaul of the syllabus I think this would be a pretty good idea for schools. It won't happen though because it's a great money spinner. Not picking on Irish alone there, in fact the Maths stuff was the worst from what I've seen. [/off topic rant]

Iwasfrozen

Coles wrote: »

Who said that? Could you provide a link please.

I said it, to demonstrate your logical fallacy.

VinLieger

Coles wrote: »

That's really interesting. You should start a thread on it.

Simply replying to another of your wild assumptions that every irish person must think TG4 is amazing, i never watch it voluntarily and when i do watch it its for rugby with the sound off and im far from the only one no matter what you would like to think although i doubt everyone does it either, so no need to get so antagonistic

opti0nal

Coles wrote: »

I've posted that NUI Maynooth report twice already...

The one written by an Irish language enthusiast, with a forward by CnaG, an organisation dedicated to the restoration of Irish as the common language of Ireland?

feargale

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

Good for you, buddy.

and @ Coles "Thanks bud."
FFS what's this thread coming to?

kowloon

opti0nal wrote: »

The one written by an Irish language enthusiast, with a forward by CnaG, an organisation dedicated to the restoration of Irish as the common language of Ireland?

Sounds legit. :pac:

Krusader

'Sí do Mhamó í
'Sí do Mhamó í
'Sí do Mhamó í
'Sí cailleach an airgid

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Crosáidí wrote: »

'Sí do Mhamó í
'Sí do Mhamó í
'Sí do Mhamó í
'Sí cailleach an airgid

I'll have some of that. Do you drink it neat or with a mixer?

Iwasfrozen

Why are so many people insistent on breaking the no Irish without a translation rule?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Why are so many people insistent on breaking the no Irish without a translation rule?

In fairness, translating them wouldn't have made them any better.

Iwasfrozen

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

In fairness, translating them wouldn't have made them any better.

Probably not but it would be a start.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Probably not but it would be a start.

I'll ask the Commissoner for Language equality or whatever his title is to step in, so.

Iwasfrozen

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I'll ask the Commissoner for Language equality or whatever his title is to step in, so.

Silly Ikky Poo, don't you know equality is a one way street?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Silly Ikky Poo, don't you know equality is a one way street?

What, they waste our time and resrouces on a misguided but well-intentioned linguistic enterprise involving unnessecary translations in order to make people's lives a tad less miserable and we can't waste theirs? Boo-urns.

Rubeter

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Why are so many people insistent on breaking the no Irish without a translation rule?

Vor der Kaserne,
Vor dem großen Tor,
Stand eine Laterne,
Und steht sie noch davor,

Non, rien de rien
Non, je ne regrette rien
Ni le bien qu’on m’a fait
Ni le mal, tout ça m’est bien égal

It was interesting to see your reaction to a few lines of a well know Irish song, I was wondering if the above verses of two well known songs written in their respective languages with no translations provided, would annoy you to the same extent?

awec

awec wrote: »

How many Irish people can't actually speak English? I'm sure there are some but surely not that many?

No there aren`t. Those people passed away decades ago.

PopePalpatine

Deleted User wrote: »

No there aren`t. Those people passed away decades ago.

I was listening to the Adrian Kennedy Phoneshow on FM104 a few nights ago, one of the callers, who worked in a nursing home in Connemara, said that she needed Irish to communicate with her patients.

However, I'd say there would be no longer any people who can only speak Irish within 10 years.

9959

Rubeter wrote: »

Vor der Kaserne,
Vor dem großen Tor,
Stand eine Laterne,
Und steht sie noch davor,

Non, rien de rien
Non, je ne regrette rien
Ni le bien qu’on m’a fait
Ni le mal, tout ça m’est bien égal

It was interesting to see your reaction to a few lines of a well know Irish song, I was wondering if the above verses of two well known songs written in their respective languages with no translations provided, would annoy you to the same extent?

You're talking apples and oranges there, almost everyone knows a little bit of German or French, hardly anyone knows Irish.

I hope the song below is as comprehensible to you as written Irish is to the vast majority of people in this country.
Enjoy!

Mer hayrenik', Azat, Ankakh
Vor april eh tareh tar,
Yoor Vordik'e ard kanchum eh Azat
Ankakh Heyastan

Aha', yeghpayr, keys mi drosh,
Vor im dzerkov gortsetsi,
Gishernere yes koon cheghah,
Artasukov Ivatsi.

Nayir nran yerek guynov,
Nvirakan mer nshan,
Togh poghpoghi t'shanamu dem,
Toug misht pandsah Hayastan

Amenayn tegh mah'e mi eh,
Mard mi angam pit merni,
Bayts yerani ovr yur azgi,
Azatutyan k'e zohvi.

Hope this didn't "annoy you to the same extent?"

Rubeter

9959 wrote: »

Hope this didn't "annoy you to the same extent?"

It doesn't annoy me in any way whatsoever, why should it?

PS It looks much nicer in this script.

Մեր Հայրենիք, ազատ անկախ,
Որ ապրել է դարե դար
Իր որդիքը արդ կանչում է
Ազատ, անկախ Հայաստան։
Ահա եղբայր քեզ մի դրոշ,

Coles

9959 wrote: »

You're talking apples and oranges there, almost everyone knows a little bit of German or French, hardly anyone knows Irish.

1.7 million Irish People claim that they can understand the language. Is that 'hardly anyone'? Maybe 'hardly anyone' in your family? Or 'hardly anyone' of your friends?

9959

Coles wrote: »

1.7 million Irish People claim that they can understand the language. Is that 'hardly anyone'? Maybe 'hardly anyone' in your family? Or 'hardly anyone' of your friends?

I thought 1.7 million Irish people claimed that they could speak it, well there's lies, damned lies, and people who claim to understand Irish.

Iwasfrozen

Rubeter wrote: »

Vor der Kaserne,
Vor dem großen Tor,
Stand eine Laterne,
Und steht sie noch davor,

Non, rien de rien
Non, je ne regrette rien
Ni le bien qu’on m’a fait
Ni le mal, tout ça m’est bien égal

It was interesting to see your reaction to a few lines of a well know Irish song, I was wondering if the above verses of two well known songs written in their respective languages with no translations provided, would annoy you to the same extent?

Annoy isn't the word but yes it's against the rules to post in any language without translation Irish included.