Farming Chit Chat II

Muckit

bob charles wrote: »

vs dosing cattle and mucking out sheds for the evening, cant beat youth:D

I was out working when ur biggest job waa to shi*e a nappy :-)

gazahayes

delaval wrote: »

Pull the feeders in the parlour 110mls Zanil on top and no dry copw will refuse;);)

We used to do it before with weanlings when they were eating ration throw some in the cement mixer and in with the dose then throw it out to them.

leg wax

Dampintheattic wrote: »

Dab of Dr Larsson's dehorning paste, at two days old. As often as not, you can get it done, with the calf asleep on a bed of straw, after a feed of milk. No need to catch it, never mind put in a dehorning crate.
If I live to be a hundred and ten, I will never get the logic, which says stressed farmer, plus red hot iron, plus dehorning crate, battling with a strong calf with buds of horns, is in some way a more humane way, than dehorning paste at a few days old.
If I were a calf, and was offered a choice I know which one i would choose.

no thanks ,not interested .do it right or not at all.

1chippy

leg wax wrote: »

no thanks ,not interested .do it right or not at all.

I have to agree. the paste is a bit messy. a good dehorning iron is the only job.

just do it

leg wax wrote: »

i am fooked here ,just after dehorning 11 of the first calves born,i am old,and not fit ,more wine tonight to sort out the aches.:o

You ought to give up producing those top quality export type weanlings and switch over to Angus :D

just do it

delaval wrote: »

Pull the feeders in the parlour 110mls Zanil on top and no dry copw will refuse;);)

You surely don't have to dose for fluke?

just do it

Timmaay wrote: »

Nay just a pampered HO ha! Scour all bubbly, couldn't be anything else?

Another man on dry land. I'm surprised to here you guys talking of fluke? I'd be thinking salmonella, vet and faecal sample...

delaval

just do it wrote: »

You surely don't have to dose for fluke?

We do but they must really want it:D:D

We have done since 09. It's not a dear dose and we throw on the meal in the parlour at drying and again in Feb at start of calving

Timmaay

just do it wrote: »

Another man on dry land. I'm surprised to here you guys talking of fluke? I'd be thinking salmonella, vet and faecal sample...

Hangover from last summer I think, it's less of a problem now, but was certainly a problem last winter. Hard to dose the cows with zanel afew weeks after housing, as we have a fairly spread out calving season. The bulk tank sensitivity test shows up as a high positive for fluke, but negative for salmonella.

bob charles

Fluke is still a problem, still getting cows showing up with it when slaughtered. Killed a load of year and a half bulls that were home bred and inside for the last couple of months and dosed to the hilt I taught, 45% of them showed up with liver fluke :mad: I couldnt believe any one of them had fluke

naughto

leg wax wrote: »

i am fooked here ,just after dehorning 11 of the first calves born,i am old,and not fit ,more wine tonight to sort out the aches.:o

we try do do them at 2weeks old cut the hair sand paper on it a for a few mins untill you see it brigh red or a drop of blood,then the paste,then keep the cow away so she cant lick it off for half and hour.

they seem to be stronger and older lately as we dont have the time and the difference between the pb and the commercails is unreal

Kovu

I don't know if I should post a smart arse post. (I see you there bob...lurking...)
or a serious one....so I shall do both & cause controversy at the same time.
I do not agree with vegetarians. We are born with pre-canine teeth. Therefore we should grow into eating meat
We have been cooking & eating meat for as long as I can remember
And the growing phenomenon is rare beef and organic.
I.E. What our forebears ate.
See below & discuss.

http://imgur.com/gallery/PVls3

I for one would love to have my own home grown food. I'm till waiting on an invite to a field of kale lol >.<

bbam

Kovu Murr wrote: »

I don't know if I should post a smart arse post. (I see you there bob...lurking...)
or a serious one....so I shall do both & cause controversy at the same time.
I do not agree with vegetarians. We are born with pre-canine teeth. Therefore we should grow into eating meat
We have been cooking & eating meat for as long as I can remember
And the growing phenomenon is rare beef and organic.
I.E. What our forebears ate.
See below & discuss.

http://imgur.com/gallery/PVls3

I for one would love to have my own home grown food. I'm till waiting on an invite to a field of kale lol >.<

Growing your own food is good Crack And obviously very rewarding on many levels, including good dinners . But it's not for everyone, some of my sisters wouldn't touch the pork from our pigs as they've seen them alive and reared. With cattle priced poorish I have my eye on a stumpy AA heifer and hope she might fit in the freezer too.

Your story is more common than you'd think.
A hippy cousin of my dads and her husband came back from England 20 years ago and moved to a shack in Leitrim (where else).
They arrived with 13 cats in tow, each one had their teeth pulled to stop them eating meat when out and about. Vegans one and all !!
In fairness the cats lasted years but I'd say they were breaking their fast when out.

I think vegetarianism , particularly vegans are way off the mark. It's the most abnormal diet I could think off.

Askim

bbam wrote: »

But it's not for everyone, some of my sisters wouldn't touch the pork from our pigs as they've seen them alive and reared.
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encourage this, the more for you, none of my brothers like my beer, from kits, tis great all the more for me

A

whelan1

went to catch a calf to tag it and give halocur this morning, it was born during the night- we have a calving paddock at front of house with sheep wire and electric fence- he was asleep. Got right beside him touched him he bawled and he was gone at ninty over the sheepwire fence :eek: got him in another paddock let his mammy out to him and got him back, fecker

bbam

Nothing as unpredictable as a spooked suck calf. They seem to get through any little space at all.

delaval

whelan1 wrote: »

went to catch a calf to tag it and give halocur this morning, it was born during the night- we have a calving paddock at front of house with sheep wire and electric fence- he was asleep. Got right beside him touched him he bawled and he was gone at ninty over the sheepwire fence :eek: got him in another paddock let his mammy out to him and got him back, fecker

Have you many calved. Any milk feaver?

whelan1

delaval wrote: »

Have you many calved. Any milk feaver?

4 calved, 3 of which are heifers and 1 second calver , no milk fever yet, touch wood, 3 angus bull calves and 1 fae fr heifer calf, cow was served 19 november and calved 14 august:eek:

moy83

whelan1 wrote: »

4 calved, 3 of which are heifers and 1 second calver , no milk fever yet, touch wood, 3 angus bull calves and 1 fae fr heifer calf, cow was served 19 november and calved 14 august:eek:

Have you many more angus calves coming soon ?

Timmaay

You love hardship whelan Never had sucklers here thankfully, every male/beef animal (other than breeding bulls) will be gone outa here as calves in future.

whelan1

Timmaay wrote: »

You love hardship whelan Never had sucklers here thankfully, every male/beef animal (other than breeding bulls) will be gone outa here as calves in future.

these are milkers... aucklers all calved

whelan1

moy83 wrote: »

Have you many more angus calves coming soon ?

no, only a few , will be the spring again i have anymore

moy83

whelan1 wrote: »

no, only a few , will be the spring again i have anymore

Is there much sale for them at the minute . I wouldnt mind buying maybe five bull calves at the minute if they werent too dear .

whelan1

dont know hopefully will be at mart on tuesday week and will report back , cant imagine there are too many calves around at the minute

jersey101

whelan1 wrote: »

dont know hopefully will be at mart on tuesday week and will report back , cant imagine there are too many calves around at the minute

im hoping to sell the autumn bull calves as soon as there dropped, starting calving on monday id expect, just dont have the time or room for bull calves any more. Be good to see what calves are making

Timmaay

whelan1 wrote: »

these are milkers... aucklers all calved

Bloody spoke too soon ha, cow ready to start calving now here, a week or so early, here we go again all over!

whelan1

Timmaay wrote: »

Bloody spoke too soon ha, cow ready to start calving now here, a week or so early, here we go again all over!

YE mine came in on top of me very quick only finished washing and disenfecting pens yesterday

whelan1

Timmaay wrote: »

Bloody spoke too soon ha, cow ready to start calving now here, a week or so early, here we go again all over!

what are yours in calf to, have a few abo and pbm due next week

Timmaay

Ugh waiting for the vet now, the cow is 2 1/2 wks early and hasn't opened up much at all, but legs out since the afternoon. Not a great start, or a good way to be spending my Saturday evening ha!

Used a mix of ABO, PBM and LHZ when serving last winter, just had a quick look at the list now, and almost all held to PBM! Can't complain, he has a decent EBI, most the expected calves are around the 200 ebi.

1chippy

jersey101 wrote: »

im hoping to sell the autumn bull calves as soon as there dropped, starting calving on monday id expect, just dont have the time or room for bull calves any more. Be good to see what calves are making

will you not be paying someone to take jerseys:D