Farming Chit Chat II

delaval

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I got the head took off me about CAP in a local shop early this year. Why should I get subs when he (the shopkeeper) gets nothing? I don't usually mind being asked, but the vitriol with this was full on. I bit my tongue and kept my thoughts to myself, but I haven't spent a bob in there since.

It was as if I had all the power and decided to pay myself from Europe.

You are dead right. Some of yours and your neighbours Cap goes to him and he is too thick to see it

Conmaicne Mara

delaval wrote: »

You are dead right. Some of yours and your neighbours Cap goes to him and he is too thick to see it

That's what I was thinking, as he has other businesses than the shop. He's long enough dealing with farmers to know a bit by now, every time I'd go in he'd have his head stuck in a paper of some type too.

pakalasa

I was at Sixmilebridge Mart on Saturday. Never seen anything like it. Great prices for the export types, with 'youknowwho' buying everything. Blues not so good.Saw one smasher of a BB, he was 430 Kg but only made €1030. Put it this way, there were a lot of people looking at him in the pen beforehand. Has the shine gone off the blues? Muscley lean limousin and char types were selliing a lot better.
Plainer but good store types were only making just over €2/Kg. A serious amount went through unsold. The beef business look like it just died.

Muckit

I'd say a lot of sucklers will see the factory. The cost of keeping a suckler this year.....ouch!

just do it

pakalasa wrote: »

I was at Sixmilebridge Mart on Saturday. Never seen anything like it. Great prices for the export types, with 'youknowwho' buying everything. Blues not so good.Saw one smasher of a BB, he was 430 Kg but only made €1030. But it this way, there were a lot of people looking at him in the pen beforehand. Has the shine gone off the blues? Muscley lean limousin and char types were selliing a lot better.
Plainer but good store types were only making just over €2/Kg. A serious amount went through unsold. The beef business look like it just died.

Ventured to the bridge last summer with a few blues which were just about expert quality and 'youknowwho' told me to switch to LM/CH (whilst trying to convince me to take less than I was willing to for the one I took home!)

just do it

Rebooted the laptop to post this quote from today's Indo.

"Mr Hannon has been hit by the forage crisis over the past year, but he still managed to make a profit of €127,000 on his 90ha farm. Mr Hannon has warned other dairy farmers to make sure that they dont spend too much on milking parlours and machinery when gearing up to increase their milk porduction in the years ahead. He said

you can have all the bells and whisltles and go broke or you can have a milking parlour that milks cows. That's what I have

This is some of the best advice I've seen in any publication lately.

pakalasa

I wonder when milk quotas go, how many will jump ship from Beef to Dairy and what effect will it have? A lot of cheap dairy bull calves and suckler cows looking very expensive to keep?

blue5000

pakalasa wrote: »

I wonder when milk quotas go, how many will jump ship from Beef to Dairy and what effect will it have? A lot of cheap dairy bull calves and suckler cows looking very expensive to keep?

Ya paks looks that way. Sucklers will I think be confined to rougher land not suitable to dairying, contract rearing of dairy replacements is another option. The message to suckler farmers from simple simon seems to be 'go milk cows or fcuk off'

Dampintheattic

blue5000 wrote: »

Ya paks looks that way. Sucklers will I think be confined to rougher land not suitable to dairying, contract rearing of dairy replacements is another option. The message to suckler farmers from simple simon seems to be 'go milk cows or fcuk off'

And the message from Minister Coveney, to smaller farmers typically small, west of Shannon types is "go fkuc off, and don't be annoying us (us being himself and the suits in the Farm Centre"http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/coveney-to-fight-ecs-12bn-farm-grant-move-29300522.html

Michael Brennan – 28 May 2013

AGRICULTURE Minister Simon Coveney has insisted he will face down demands from the European Commission to redistribute more of the €1.2bn paid in farm grants to smaller landowners.




He and the Irish Farmers' Association are opposed to the move under the revised Common Agricultural Policy budget for every farmer to get at least 75pc of the average single farm payment grant.

This would result in smaller farmers gaining and bigger, more productive farmers taking cuts to their existing grants.

Mr Coveney said he believed the Commission's figure of 75pc of the average farm payment was "too high".

He said he was negotiating with the commission and the European Parliament to find a compromise "that everybody can live with".

Irish Independent

bob charles

pakalasa wrote: »

with 'youknowwho' buying everything.

well when you can't buy in lots of marts:rolleyes:

Kovu

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dzer2

Dampintheattic wrote: »

And the message from Minister Coveney, to smaller farmers typically small, west of Shannon types is "go fkuc off, and don't be annoying us (us being himself and the suits in the Farm Centre"http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/coveney-to-fight-ecs-12bn-farm-grant-move-29300522.html

Michael Brennan – 28 May 2013

AGRICULTURE Minister Simon Coveney has insisted he will face down demands from the European Commission to redistribute more of the €1.2bn paid in farm grants to smaller landowners.




He and the Irish Farmers' Association are opposed to the move under the revised Common Agricultural Policy budget for every farmer to get at least 75pc of the average single farm payment grant.

This would result in smaller farmers gaining and bigger, more productive farmers taking cuts to their existing grants.

Mr Coveney said he believed the Commission's figure of 75pc of the average farm payment was "too high".

He said he was negotiating with the commission and the European Parliament to find a compromise "that everybody can live with".

Irish Independent

Why dont we tell the troike to do that:mad::mad::mad:

delaval

Busy here today. Contractor spreading bag of urea on whole farm, hoof care men at cows and flat out at slurry. Really mild with thundery showers and steam rising from the yard. .……great sign of growth!!!!!!yipeeeeee
Supposed to take kids swimming later we'll see??

Dampintheattic

delaval wrote: »

Busy here today. Contractor spreading bag of urea on whole farm, hoof care men at cows and flat out at slurry. Really mild with thundery showers and steam rising from the yard. .……great sign of growth!!!!!!yipeeeeee
Supposed to take kids swimming later we'll see??

Regular short showers. Coldest wind since beginning of the year. Real setback!

hugo29

delaval wrote: »

Busy here today. Contractor spreading bag of urea on whole farm, hoof care men at cows and flat out at slurry. Really mild with thundery showers and steam rising from the yard. .……great sign of growth!!!!!!yipeeeeee
Supposed to take kids swimming later we'll see??

weather same here at moment, only inside in office looking out
long term forecast looks good from weekend on

Tipp Man

There'll be a drought yet this year i reckon

mf240

Tipp Man wrote: »

There'll be a drought yet this year i reckon

Phone the dept help line tell them to cancel the umbrellas and increase the order for cornettos.

Juniorhurler

Tipp Man wrote: »

There'll be a drought yet this year i reckon

we were just saying the same at home yesterday. The dropwe got yesterday was badly needed.

Conmaicne Mara

Dampintheattic wrote: »

This would result in smaller farmers gaining

That is not true for all small farmers. Should IFA or high SFP earning farmers have a bad reaction to what ever deal is brought in they will react. Privately, or maybe not so privately but I haven't heard it said in public, IFA are pro regionalisation in that case. Coveney already has the power to bring it in. If regionalisation or marginalisation come in it will mean many smaller farmers suffer. That will be an Irish made decision.

whelan1

Tipp Man wrote: »

There'll be a drought yet this year i reckon

fingers crossed , my land loves dry weather

whelan1

delaval wrote: »

Busy here today. Contractor spreading bag of urea on whole farm, hoof care men at cows and flat out at slurry. Really mild with thundery showers and steam rising from the yard. .……great sign of growth!!!!!!yipeeeeee
Supposed to take kids swimming later we'll see??

was doing my grass walk earlier , ground is actually warm to touch, never noticed that before, great growth this last week here , has doubled on the week before:D

hugo29

whelan1 wrote: »

was doing my grass walk earlier , ground is actually warm to touch, never noticed that before, great growth this last week here , has doubled on the week before:D

were you walking in yer bare feet, or do you get down on yer hands and knees and touch the ground:D

whelan1

hugo29 wrote: »

were you walking in yer bare feet, or do you get down on yer hands and knees and touch the ground:D

we where cutting some grass to measure it.....

delaval

hugo29 wrote: »

were you walking in yer bare feet, or do you get down on yer hands and knees and touch the ground:D

First female pope kissing ground

Juniorhurler

delaval wrote: »

First female pope kissing ground

She is too fond of wine and Mr Whelan for that job.:p

jomoloney

pakalasa wrote: »

I was at Sixmilebridge Mart on Saturday. Never seen anything like it. Great prices for the export types, with 'youknowwho' buying everything. Blues not so good.Saw one smasher of a BB, he was 430 Kg but only made €1030. Put it this way, there were a lot of people looking at him in the pen beforehand. Has the shine gone off the blues? Muscley lean limousin and char types were selliing a lot better.
Plainer but good store types were only making just over €2/Kg. A serious amount went through unsold. The beef business look like it just died.

I had to do a run to Kilrush this morn, stopped at Ennis on the way home for a bit of grub, thought the bull/bullock ring was weak, some very middling stock as well

whelan1

delaval wrote: »

First female pope kissing ground

:D was actually getting under an electric fence-i am a smallie- and put my hand on the ground:o

AntrimGlens

I think John Paul II visited some of Whelans land when he was last in Drogheda but she wouldn't let the popemobile on without duals.

whelan1

AntrimGlens wrote: »

I think John Paul II visited some of Whelans land when he was last in Drogheda but she wouldn't let the popemobile on without duals.

i was only 5, he visited about 2 miles from my place.... have visions now of a load of people on here feeling the ground this evening to see if its warm:)

hugo29

would not chance bending over in the field in front of my bull at the moment, he seems a bit frustrated;), come to think of it the neighbour seems the same:D