By-Election Confirmed for March 27th

KERSPLAT!

This is getting ridiculous

raymon

rufty wrote: »

I'll spell it out for ya craythur:

Are you of the mind that only Fianna Fáil put in a massive effort and therefore were the only party successful in getting all its core vote out, or are you in the position that all the major parties did the same? This is a very straight forward question for you.

Again , no need to be insulting. Name calling doesn't win arguments

I agree with Petulia , this is getting ridiculous.

rufty

raymon wrote: »

Again , no need to be insulting. Name calling doesn't win arguments

I agree with Petulia , this is getting ridiculous.

Craythur is a term of endearment in Clare. Why can't you just give me a straight answer? It's not hard!

raymon

rufty wrote: »

Craythur is a term of endearment in Clare. Why can't you just give me a straight answer? It's not hard!

I believe that FF put in more effort than any other party here and still failed. Except for the candiate himself. Looks like by the time the RTE debate came around he had lost the fight


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rufty

raymon wrote: »

I believe that FF put in more effort than any other party here and still failed. Except for the candiate himself. Looks like by the time the RTE debate came around he had lost the fight


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Thanks for the clarification. I can confirm that every party threw everything they had behind their candidate. YFG were organizing their regional meetings to be met with 50 seater buses to get their members to East Meath and their TD's were all out in force at the doors. Same for Labour. FF did a lot of work for this election but it'd be unfair too the FG members to dismiss the huge effort they put in for their candidate as well. We're quite happy with the massive increase with our vote share. Yes, we'd have liked to take the seat as well but once Helen McEntee was announced as candidate the likeliness of that went way down. A 5% gap in the circumstances though is hugely encouraging and will invigorate the membership going on to the task of finishing the renewal process of our party. Thomas looks solid to pick up a seat next time out also.

raymon

rufty wrote: »

Thanks for the clarification. I can confirm that every party threw everything they had behind their candidate. YFG were organizing their regional meetings to be met with 50 seater buses to get their members to East Meath and their TD's were all out in force at the doors. Same for Labour. FF did a lot of work for this election but it'd be unfair too the FG members to dismiss the huge effort they put in for their candidate as well. We're quite happy with the massive increase with our vote share. Yes, we'd have liked to take the seat as well but once Helen McEntee was announced as candidate the likeliness of that went way down. A 5% gap in the circumstances though is hugely encouraging and will invigorate the membership going on to the task of finishing the renewal process of our party. Thomas looks solid to pick up a seat next time out also.

That's the way you see it . I see it a lot differently.

I hope Bertie's man has more fight in him next time.

K-9

raymon wrote: »

That's the way you see it . I see it a lot differently.

I hope Bertie's man has more fight in him next time.

Well it looks like FF and FG will take a seat each in the General Election, it would be a brave betting man to vote against it. Hard to know how the other seat could go, if Labour tank FG may lose a seat as well as them.

raymon

K-9 wrote: »

Well it looks like FF and FG will take a seat each in the General Election, it would be a brave betting man to vote against it. Hard to know how the other seat could go, if Labour tank FG may lose a seat as well as them.

It will be interesting alright.

Silentcorner

rufty wrote: »

Craythur is a term of endearment in Clare. Why can't you just give me a straight answer? It's not hard!

"Craythur" is not a term of endearment in Clare, it is a term that is considered patronising/insulting...why would you patronise/insult someone and then lie about it?

I think the result can be interpreted in two ways, one a success for the established parties (because it vindicates the style of government which all the main parties seem to engage in), it means despite ravaging the country both economically and socially in the most corrupt/incompetent fashion a main party candidate can still poll well.

The other interpretation is that this was a failure for FF, why, because they lost a bye election in opposition which is not a common occurrence, despite having a high profile candidate who is still politically active in the area, this could not have been a better opportunity to regain this seat, giving the party a much needed boost.

I am in no doubt, FF will increase its vote in the next election, it will get a bounce...a dead cat bounce

The fact is they never came within an asses roar of winning this seat, despite any spinning on FFs behalf, I was told by a reliable source on the ground back at the beginning of March that FF were not a threat, he was right, he also informed me that FF threw everything it had at this, this man had no reason to lie.

K-9

raymon wrote: »

It will be interesting alright.

It's traditional FF/FG territory with Labour getting in the last time, and in 92 with the Spring Tide when it was County Meath, the only exceptions. With Labour looking at losing over half their vote, a strong SF candidate could do damage, then it's about transfers. Labour core support is less likely to transfer to FG after coalition Governments.

Where they go, plus the other independents could make SF target this one. They've built up a strong base of 9/10% there over the last 10/15 years.

raymon

K-9 wrote: »

It's traditional FF/FG territory with Labour getting in the last time, and in 92 with the Spring Tide when it was County Meath, the only exceptions. With Labour looking at losing over half their vote, a strong SF candidate could do damage, then it's about transfers. Labour core support is less likely to transfer to FG after coalition Governments.

Where they go, plus the other independents could make SF target this one. They've built up a strong base of 9/10% their over the last 10/15 years.

I agree , a big opportunity for SF or even a good independent here if Labour don't bounce back in some way

rpurfield

interesting few comments the last while i only see it one way and that is it was a good result for FF.i think they knew themselves theyd only a very slim chance of getting the seat but the votes they did get coupled to labours fall from grace and the household tax water charges and god knows what else before the next general election means byrne is a shoo in to take a seat in meath east next time out.the election got him front and centre in peoples minds out here again too.i ment to comment in the day or two before the election a letter arrived here addressed to me with a stamp on so i thought it was work related.i opened it and it was a begging letter for my vote from thomas byrne.i mention it was stamped as in a proper 55cent job suppose to make us think he spent the money himself

on the sympathy vote for FG and them facebook comments i think the comments were more like a general comment than a judge that she got votes off those folks because of her family situation.giving my comments above im sure someones gonna accuse me of being FF so im laying it out there that I vote well to the left when there is candidates and Id be no fan of FF at all.

DJCR

Well them Mary-lou posters didn't garner much support anyway.

Look FF are happy, two years time, bar an absolute miracle for the government and based on voter percentages, Byrne is back in the Dail where he belongs and FF have a seat in West Meath.

Good day in the office no matter what statistics you use. If you don't don't believe me, I'd say you will get some fantastic odds on it if you go quickly to the bookies.

rufty

Silentcorner wrote: »

"Craythur" is not a term of endearment in Clare, it is a term that is considered patronising/insulting...why would you patronise/insult someone and then lie about it?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/craythur
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cratur

Nothing there about patronising/insulting anyone. Don't presume to tell me how I and folks down my way in west Clare speak. If it's an insult in other places I can clarify it wasn't intended that way.

Silentcorner

rufty wrote: »

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/craythur
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cratur

Nothing there about patronising/insulting anyone. Don't presume to tell me how I and folks down my way in west Clare speak. If it's an insult in other places I can clarify it wasn't intended that way.

Nothing there about being a term of endearment either.

In all my years working, living and socialising in Clare, all parts of Clare mind, the term is an insult, of course I may not be familiar with your village in West Clare or the nuances of your local dialect, but you should bear in mind when posting on an online forum, that there is a high probability that most people on the same forum won't be from the same village.

raymon

rufty wrote: »

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/craythur
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cratur

Nothing there about patronising/insulting anyone. Don't presume to tell me how I and folks down my way in west Clare speak. If it's an insult in other places I can clarify it wasn't intended that way.

Lay off it Rufty , you did mean to be insulting .

Let it go .

Sully

First day in the Dail today for the democratically elected by the people of Meath East, Helen McEntee..

Robbo

Who Spent What, according to the SIPO.

I await Ben Gilroy's reaction to the Garda/DPP enquiries with interest.

ArmaniJeanss

Robbo wrote: »

I await Ben Gilroy's reaction to the Garda/DPP enquiries with interest.

I don't think he entered into any contract with the Standards Committee, so I doubt they have any legal authority over him. Or something like that.

Robbo

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

I don't think he entered into any contract with the Standards Committee, so I doubt they have any legal authority over him. Or something like that.

They aren't mentioned in the Constitution, therefore they don't exist...