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    #3722
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Roland27 wrote: »
    As far as I am aware the Freesports is only available on Sky in Ireland, as per their FAQ, which is strange because I would've thought it'd be on Eir given the close links with the channels.
    ...

    Freesports SD (720x576) is FTA and thus available in Ireland without any Sky subscription.

    Unfortunately Freesports HD is not FTA :(

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    #3723
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    kooga wrote: »
    Interesting freesports have the right to the leinster senior schools rugby, there is a game today belvo v Cistercian - I wonder will the game be geo blocked as it is on eirsport 1 as well

    It’s not. Interestingly it is FreeSport’s graphics not eir’s being used.


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    #3724
    Dindane
    Registered Users Posts: 129 ✭✭Dindane


    icdg wrote: »
    I’m wondering if the silence from eir is possibly due to annoyance at Premier Sports going out and buying rights for what they see as “their turf” without their involvement. Of course, the rights for UK & Ireland came together as a package in this instance, but there was a similar silence in relation to Premier Sports picking up of 3pm FAPL games (and indeed, we still don’t know how they plan to distribute these games in Ireland).

    But, if eir went out and bought Setanta Ireland and actually neglected to include a non-compete clause in the contract, that’s their own look out. They know exactly who Premier Sports are and have been benefiting from the UK&Ireland rights they have since the buyout.

    Probably there will be much more of this too.

    Relationship between the two seems to have got frosty since the French buyout of eir a year ago.


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    #3725
    Roland27
    Registered Users Posts: 127 ✭✭Roland27


    icdg wrote: »
    I’m wondering if the silence from eir is possibly due to annoyance at Premier Sports going out and buying rights for what they see as “their turf” without their involvement. Of course, the rights for UK & Ireland came together as a package in this instance, but there was a similar silence in relation to Premier Sports picking up of 3pm FAPL games (and indeed, we still don’t know how they plan to distribute these games in Ireland).

    But, if eir went out and bought Setanta Ireland and actually neglected to include a non-compete clause in the contract, that’s their own look out. They know exactly who Premier Sports are and have been benefiting from the UK&Ireland rights they have since the buyout.

    I just rang EirSports customer service (Scotland) and asked if they are showing live Serie A this Sunday, and they said they 100% are not and have heard nothing about showing Serie A as of yet.

    I raised the point of seeing Roma v Milan listed on the Sky EPG of Eir Sport 2, but they said they only go by the Eir EPG and site schedule and there's no listings for Serie A.

    Why would it be listed on Sky's EPG then? It is 100% the same feed right?


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    #3726
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    FreeSports ran a promo for Serie A at the end of the Schools Rugby coverage, tooting FreeSports as “the home of Serie A in Ireland and the UK”, going out on eir Sport 1 and all. To be fair only Saturday’s matches airing on FreeSports were actually promoted. To make matters more confusing the broadcast did end with a “(c) Eircom Limited 2019” slide, which would seem to indicate eir are well aware of what is going on.

    But to answer your question. In 2013 Setanta (then owners of both Premier Sports and Setanta Ireland), for cost savings reasons, merged the satellite feeds of both Setanta Sports 1 (now eir Sport 2) and Premier Sports. Thereafter both channels effectively ran a single schedule, with differences between the two accomplished by geoblocking only. For example at the time, Setanta Ireland’s Premier League coverage was geoblocked in the UK, and Premier Sports GAA championship coverage was (and continues to be) geoblocked in Ireland. All programmes and continuity airing on both Setanta Sports 1 and Premier Sports were branded only as “Premier Sports”, with “Setanta Sports 1” branding only used on programmes airing only in Ireland.

    But initially, this arrangement only applied on satellite. The cable version continued to be branded Setanta Sports 1 at all times, carried Irish advertising, and where programmes aimed only at the UK were being aired by Premier Sports, carried alternative programming (usually repeats of the Australian Rugby League). However this arrangement later also changed (in 2015 I think) so that the cable and satellite versions became identical.


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    #3727
    holidaysong
    Registered Users Posts: 401 ✭✭holidaysong


    Dindane wrote: »
    When I last subscribed to EirSport in Ireland, I was able to tune in the Premier Sports channels on Other Channels.

    Just tried this and it still works. Cheers for the heads up.


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    #3728
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users Posts: 5,803 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Eir EPG just updated to show the Serie A on eir Sport 2 on Sunday and Monday - Saturday games will be shown early on Sunday afternoon.


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    #3729
    Headshot
    Registered Users Posts: 53,996 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Guys will we see Premier Sports HD channel on the EPG over here.


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    #3730
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Headshot wrote: »
    Guys will we see Premier Sports HD channel on the EPG over here.

    Eir Sport 2 HD, channel 422


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    #3731
    Headshot
    Registered Users Posts: 53,996 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    icdg wrote: »
    Eir Sport 2 HD, channel 422

    Unfortunately it wasn't broadcasting the Juve Serie A match today and was only available on Premier sports SD


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    #3732
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    It wasn’t on either Premier Sports channel, they were showing GAA (Limerick v Tipperary on Premier Sports 1, Dublin v Galway on Premier Sports 2 - the inverse of the eir Sport lineup)

    FreeSports (Channel 429) showed the Serie A games - it’s only in SD, even in the UK. FreeSports HD is only available on the Virgin Media UK platform.


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    #3733
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Just to add though, next Saturday’s Serie A games are going to be on Premier Sports 2, the channel that’s not available in Ireland (though it can be manually turned by eir Sport satellite subscribers). Also Mayo v Cavan appears to be eir Vision customers only, as Premier Sports 1 (eir Sport 2) shows Scottish football followed by NHL.


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    #3734
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    icdg wrote: »
    Just to add though, next Saturday’s Serie A games are going to be on Premier Sports 2, the channel that’s not available in Ireland (though it can be manually turned by eir Sport satellite subscribers). Also Mayo v Cavan appears to be eir Vision customers only, as Premier Sports 1 (eir Sport 2) shows Scottish football followed by NHL.

    I *think* Premier Sports 2 cannot be tuned in using the 'free' eir sports card provided to eir broadband subscribers, only to eir sport subscribers.

    Do I have that correct?


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    #3735
    Headshot
    Registered Users Posts: 53,996 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    icdg wrote: »
    It wasn’t on either Premier Sports channel, they were showing GAA (Limerick v Tipperary on Premier Sports 1, Dublin v Galway on Premier Sports 2 - the inverse of the eir Sport lineup)

    FreeSports (Channel 429) showed the Serie A games - it’s only in SD, even in the UK. FreeSports HD is only available on the Virgin Media UK platform.

    Apologies for the confusion I did mean FreeSports but thanks for confirming about the HD version.


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    #3736
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    I *think* Premier Sports 2 cannot be tuned in using the 'free' eir sports card provided to eir broadband subscribers, only to eir sport subscribers.

    Do I have that correct?

    On Sky, if you have the eir Sport pack, you can add Premier Sports 1 HD and Premier Sports 2 SD if you wish to "Other Channels"

    I have them tuned in myself


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    #3737
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,622 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Found the frequency for Premier 2 but cant find Premier 1. Anyone have it?


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    #3738
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    I *think* Premier Sports 2 cannot be tuned in using the 'free' eir sports card provided to eir broadband subscribers, only to eir sport subscribers.

    Do I have that correct?
    mackersdublin wrote: »
    On Sky, if you have the eir Sport pack, you can add Premier Sports 1 HD and Premier Sports 2 SD if you wish to "Other Channels"

    I have them tuned in myself

    It is not clear if that is with a Sky subscription or not.

    Is that a YES I am correct
    or
    No I am incorrect?


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    #3739
    mikeym
    Registered Users Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭mikeym


    icdg wrote: »
    Just to add though, next Saturday’s Serie A games are going to be on Premier Sports 2, the channel that’s not available in Ireland (though it can be manually turned by eir Sport satellite subscribers). Also Mayo v Cavan appears to be eir Vision customers only, as Premier Sports 1 (eir Sport 2) shows Scottish football followed by NHL.

    Will Rte be showing a live Gaa match that night?


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    #3740
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users Posts: 5,803 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    mikeym wrote: »
    Will Rte be showing a live Gaa match that night?

    Yes, they're showing Kerry v Dublin.


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    #3741
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    The Nal wrote: »
    Found the frequency for Premier 2 but cant find Premier 1. Anyone have it?

    No need to tune in, it’s on channel 422.


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    #3742
    Mr.Maroon
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Mr.Maroon


    Has anyone got the tuning frequency for Premier 1?
    I'm guessing they'll be showing Parma vs Inter next Saturday


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    #3743
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,622 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Mr.Maroon wrote: »
    Has anyone got the tuning frequency for Premier 1?
    I'm guessing they'll be showing Parma vs Inter next Saturday

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    #3744
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    As I mentioned earlier, next Saturday’s Serie A is on Premier Sports 2

    Premier Sports 1 is showing Scottish Cup and NHL. FreeSports showing pool.

    Can imagine there may be some unhappy GAA people in GB as GAA League coverage gets booted to a tape delay showing following the NHL. This also means eir Sport can only show one live GAA game (Kerry v Dublin, also on RTE - Mayo v Cavan may be on eir Sport Extra on eir Vision only).


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    #3745
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users Posts: 7,811 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    When they have multiple streaming options why don't they use them? Let people cast it.


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    #3746
    Mr.Maroon
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Mr.Maroon


    icdg wrote: »
    As I mentioned earlier, next Saturday’s Serie A is on Premier Sports 2

    Premier Sports 1 is showing Scottish Cup and NHL. FreeSports showing pool.

    On the Sky EPG - Eir Sport 2 has Scottish Cup and NHL listed.


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    #3747
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Yes.

    eir Sport 2 is Premier Sports 1.

    I’m not sure how many times I can repeat that sentence. For all intents and purposes they are one and the same channel. (Even more confusingly, eir Sport 2 used to be called Setanta Sports 1, in the days when the other channel was called Setanta Ireland, and there had long since stopped being a Setanta Sports 2. Confused yet?).

    The same does not apply to eir Sport 1 and Premier Sports 2, which are separate services (though they will often show the same programmes)


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    #3748
    Mr.Maroon
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Mr.Maroon


    So to watch the Serie A on Saturday I need Premier Sport 2 - can that be tuned with Sky's other channels service?


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    #3749
    icdg
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    Yes, if you are an eir Sport satellite subscriber (Another poster asked if this applies to eir Sport broadband subscribers who have an eir Sport entitlement on their Sky viewing card - I am not sure that it does).

    It’s not part of the eir Sport pack and not officially available here so can’t guarantee that eir/Setanta won’t change the set up to block it here at some point.


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    #3750
    Mr.Maroon
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Mr.Maroon


    Yeah I'm an eir Sport satellite subscriber.

    Anyone got the manual tuning details?


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    #3751
    The Nal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,622 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Mr.Maroon wrote: »
    Yeah I'm an eir Sport satellite subscriber.

    Anyone got the manual tuning details?

    https://www.lyngsat.com/tvchannels/ie/Premier-Sports-2.html


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