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Aer Lingus WiFi

  • 20-01-2013 1:39pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭


    website states will be on all transatlantic flights by end March 2013 - anyone know if this is a phased roll-out or will it just be available on the entire fleet in April 2013?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭AeroEng1


    It is fitted to one aircraft already as far as I know but it will not be available for use until the entire A330 fleet is fitted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭b757


    EI-DAA currently has WIFI, EI-EAV is getting it done at the moment. Don't know if EAV is back in service as it was planned to start on the 7th Jan.

    The 320's will be getting it done too, although users will have to pay for it. No idea when they will have it, i presume the 330's are the main priority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Can't wait to hear the horror stories caused by some spoiled brat forcing Daddy to give his credit card number for Wi-Fi access only for Jimmy to watch a heap of YouTube videos all the way across the Atlantic.

    Or will capping will be enforced, so you'll buy a set number of MB and then it stops?


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭castie


    coylemj wrote: »
    Can't wait to hear the horror stories caused by some spoiled brat forcing Daddy to give his credit card number for Wi-Fi access only for Jimmy to watch a heap of YouTube videos all the way across the Atlantic.

    Or will capping will be enforced, so you'll buy a set number of MB and then it stops?

    Thats how it works with Singapore Airlines right now anyway.
    You pay for x MB and then recharge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,921 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    castie wrote: »
    Thats how it works with Singapore Airlines right now anyway.
    You pay for x MB and then recharge.
    looked up the charges just as a comparison
    10USD for 10MB or 25USD for 30MB
    http://www.singaporeair.com/jsp/cms/en_UK/flying_with_us/inflight-connectivity.jsp

    The basic is a dollar an MB or €0.75 per MB.
    In comparison O2 roaming abroad is €0.861 per MB so its actually cheaper to use the internet on a singapore air plane the other end of the world than a few km across the border in Northern Ireland with your providers sister company up there.
    http://www.o2online.ie/wps/wcm/connect/O2/Home/Explore+Services/Services/Travelling+Abroad/Tariff+Information/Northern+Ireland/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭Franticfrank


    I'm not too interested in this. I can understand the business advantages of it but I'm happy to get away from the Internet when I'm flying. Seems like the plane's the only place you can get away from mobile phones and the Internet these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭IngazZagni


    I'm not too interested in this. I can understand the business advantages of it but I'm happy to get away from the Internet when I'm flying. Seems like the plane's the only place you can get away from mobile phones and the Internet these days.

    On a two hour flight I would agree but if the flight is 5 plus hours I would probably pay a bit for wifi. It would be a good way to pass an hour or two.

    Out of interest approx how much browsing could you do with 10mb? No videos or anything. Like how much does it take to load a boards.ie webpage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭Franticfrank


    IngazZagni wrote: »
    Out of interest approx how much browsing could you do with 10mb? No videos or anything. Like how much does it take to load a boards.ie webpage?

    I agree that it might be useful on a long haul flight if you can make full use of it. For me, 10mb seems quite low...if you're opening boards pages, especially some with photos or browsing Facebook, you'd probably use it up quite rapidly, meaning it isn't worth the price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Use mobile versions of sites and turn off images in your browser and 10MB goes a surprisingly long way.

    I imagine that we'd be almost expected/required to use it for email if flying for work :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    MYOB wrote: »
    Use mobile versions of sites and turn off images in your browser and 10MB goes a surprisingly long way.

    +1 and disable downloading of attachments in e-mails.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭larry1


    Anyone know if WIFI service has commenced on Aer Lingus transatlantic routes yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭lintdrummer


    larry1 wrote: »
    Anyone know if WIFI service has commenced on Aer Lingus transatlantic routes yet?

    It's not due to be rolled out until the end of next month and it is not available until then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 563 ✭✭✭robclay26


    Let's hope it won't be too expensive. Norwegian airlines have free wifi on board. That's a big win win to fly with them :)
    Maybe ei should do it free and attract more customers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭b757


    robclay26 wrote: »
    Let's hope it won't be too expensive. Norwegian airlines have free wifi on board. That's a big win win to fly with them :)
    Maybe ei should do it free and attract more customers

    I think it will be free for the long haul, read somewhere though that when WIFI does come to shorthaul you will have to pay for it..

    Not to sure.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    I wonder if the 757s will get it too ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    Looks like you'll be able to text and make calls onboard the A330's soon judging by this article.

    http://www.aeromobile.net/news-and-media/press-releases/197-inflight-mobile-takes-off-in-ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭james142


    Flew on EI-DAA a week ago. Saw the dome thing on top of the aircraft, guessed it was the wifi antenna. No wifi available on board though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭irishbloke77


    james142 wrote: »
    Flew on EI-DAA a week ago. Saw the dome thing on top of the aircraft, guessed it was the wifi antenna. No wifi available on board though.

    I thought that dome was to do with the inflight entertainment tv's etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭james142


    I thought that dome was to do with the inflight entertainment tv's etc

    Are you sure? I never saw this thing ontop of any of their fleet before. I guessed it was for the wifi but I could be wrong. I have a pic I took of the aircraft below.

    23pli0.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭b757


    The dome is for WIFI, not currently activated yet. Not until all 330's have been fitted with it, i think.

    Will be free on long haul too..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭james142


    b757 wrote: »
    The dome is for WIFI, not currently activated yet. Not until all 330's have been fitted with it, i think.

    Will be free on long haul too..

    free?! Just my luck then. SHoulda planned to fly out later in the year :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭b757


    james142 wrote: »
    free?! Just my luck then. SHoulda planned to fly out later in the year :o

    Apparently so, short haul wifi will "attract a small fee" when introduced.

    Things may change though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭tennis12


    Does anyone know if that white part would created much additional drag and use more fuel?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    tennis12 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if that white part would created much additional drag and use more fuel?
    First thing I thought of when I viewed the picture.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    tennis12 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if that white part would created much additional drag and use more fuel?

    Yes it does. It is about the size of a normal kitchen table. Obviously EI would have factored this additional weight and fuel burn into the decision on whether or not to install the system..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭martinsvi


    drag from the antenna should be minuscule, I doubt anyone will notice any changes in fuel consumption. Southwest airlines did some tests on their 737 and said that the drag has increased the fuel consumption by about 0.3% I'm not sure if dimensions for EI antennas are the same, but if they are - then on a bigger body, such as a330, the percentage should be smaller.

    I flew EI-EAV couple of days ago and found power-sockets installed underneath the seats. I don't think they were there before, not sure. Anyway, they looked operational - there was a tiny light glowing next to socket..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭IngazZagni


    tennis12 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if that white part would created much additional drag and use more fuel?

    Ryanair said at a press conference recently that it would create extra drag and thus extra fuel burn and across 1500 plus flights a day that would add up quite a bit. Because of this they won't be installing it on their aircraft in the short term anyway.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    martinsvi wrote: »
    .... I flew EI-EAV couple of days ago and found power-sockets installed underneath the seats. I don't think they were there before, not sure. Anyway, they looked operational - there was a tiny light glowing next to socket..
    EI have had power outlets in all A330's since the cabin upgrade in 2008/2009


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭pclancy


    I heard on other airlines the on board WIFI was terribly slow. Certainly not good enough for HD Youtube or anything high bandwidth.

    Anyone actually know what the up/down speeds are?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭martinsvi


    single channel from a satellite will give you 432kbps, it depends how many channels does the antenna and hardware support. Row44 is the best one on the market and does about 10mbit. That's on entire plane. So you have that divided by some 50 pax using wifi at the same time and end up with nothing.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    pclancy wrote: »
    I heard on other airlines the on board WIFI was terribly slow. Certainly not good enough for HD Youtube or anything high bandwidth.....
    I think the onboard Wi-Fi is designed for emails and SMS rather than some teenager watching youtube videos.



    I wonder what the IP address would be. As some sites are region specific.... ie. RTE RealPlayer and Netflix Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    I'd say it'll be like Bus wifi, video streaming is blocked to preserve bandwith


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭james142


    Tenger wrote: »
    EI have had power outlets in all A330's since the cabin upgrade in 2008/2009

    Whaat?! If only I knew that before I flew!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭corm500


    The Aer Lingus website had stated that they would have this up and running by March. Now they are saying May. Anyone know if they will be phasing in longhaul before then. I am travelling to Orlando on 20th April and would and would be delirah if it was available by then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭Bummer1234


    Anyone got any update on this?

    Thinking of flying to boston and would be an excellent added bonus.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Stimpyone


    Bummer1234 wrote: »
    Anyone got any update on this?

    Thinking of flying to boston and would be an excellent added bonus.

    Rolling out this month, €10 for 1 hour, €20 for 24 hours. Or so I've heard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭lima


    I thought it was active, but now it says June on the Aer Lingus website?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭corm500


    Flew from Orlando on Saturday and still not active


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭derry


    Looks like it is just going to be useful for sending sms doing email and maybe doing Skype calls
    TBH I always download many many youtube films on to my hard disks to watch at later times .So when I cant get on the net.Also some good films usualy contervertal get taken down so I grab them so I always have copy I got some 500 GB of you tube films about 50% I never even got to look at yet .
    I am starting to get a large collection of external hard disks for my laptop for back ups .
    Trust the cloud no way they can switch you off the cloud and you lose everything

    Also accessing these systems to stay under 10mb it requires turning off all sorts the internet updating systems the virus update systems

    Many laptops configured for normal use can use more than 5 mb just to say hello to the net update everything and so forth

    Naw best is leave inflight internet to business users who their boss pays those silly prices to talk to them as they wing it across the pond

    If I am on those flights I will probably watch my 250gb plus of films that I still need to see

    Derry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭lintdrummer


    lima wrote: »
    I thought it was active, but now it says June on the Aer Lingus website?

    There have, as expected, been teething issues with the mod. They won't be switching it on officially until they work through all the snags. They were finding certain aircraft attaining poor data speeds while others were good.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Bigcheeze


    There have, as expected, been teething issues with the mod. They won't be switching it on officially until they work through all the snags. They were finding certain aircraft attaining poor data speeds while others were good.

    Is it on unofficially ? Flew a month ago and could connect to the LAN but no IP address.

    A boards user posted from an EI flight a few weeks ago.

    Flying next week so would be handy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭lintdrummer


    Bigcheeze wrote: »
    Is it on unofficially ? Flew a month ago and could connect to the LAN but no IP address.

    A boards user posted from an EI flight a few weeks ago.

    Flying next week so would be handy.

    It has been on unofficially over the past couple of months for testing. It is definitely switched off at the moment though. It's actually an issue that affects all airlines using this particular system, so it's in Panasonic's hands to resolve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 fbrady


    Any updates on the wifi situation? I'm flying in july so I'm thinking there's a good chance it will be in operation by then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    AFAIK it has not gone to plan, as regards installation it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 fbrady


    That's unfortunate! But I shouldn't be too disspointed- I was purely excited about the novelty of the whole thing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭lima


    Any update on whether it's working? i am flying to US again this week on business and would love to be able to work from the plane


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭Bummer1234


    Flew home with them from Boston Yesterday and nothing, I tweeted them also and they said there still in testing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    It will be up and running soon enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Bigcheeze


    kona wrote: »
    It will be up and running soon enough.

    you have a source for that ? because they've gone from saying it would roll out in March to not committing to any time frame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Bigcheeze wrote: »
    you have a source for that ? because they've gone from saying it would roll out in March to not committing to any time frame.

    Yes, myself.


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