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Cruelty Towards Defencless Animals

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    #62
    Canard
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    I also certainly wouldn't have any compassion if that were to happen to the people responsible anyway. I don't know why anyone would.


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    #63
    mikom
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    jaffacakesyum wrote: »

    That said, I do hate the way animals get more sympathy than humans sometimes. A good example is homless people - when the person has an animal you can be sure they will get more attention/donations.

    Puppies scrub up better on the TV ads.


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    #64
    stop animal cruelty
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    mikom wrote: »
    In case you missed it........ "this person would die very very slowly and il make sure no one finds that cnut wedged between two walls. He'll never get his head out and see the light of day again"
    This was put forward as a punishment for the act carried out on the Lurcher pup.

    Save your indignation for the proper time when you understand the flow of the thread Froyo.

    In case you missed it....this cruel and disgusting act was done to a living animal.

    Animals have emotions, as do humans.

    Animals have feelings, ie. in this case, pain, as do humans.

    Alot of animals are defencless, as are alot of humans.

    Alot of animals are dependant on humans, as are alot of humans.

    Animals need to be cared and loved for, as do humans.


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    #65
    mikom
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    stop animal cruelty wrote: »
    In case you missed it....this cruel and disgusting act was done to a living animal.

    "this person would die very very slowly and il make sure no one finds that cnut wedged between two walls. He'll never get his head out and see the light of day again"

    In case you missed it....this cruel and disgusting act was proposed to be done to a living person.


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    #66
    Odysseus
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    Froyo wrote: »
    I didn't miss it.

    The issue touched on the poster and invoked an emotional response. It doesn't mean they'd go through with it.

    Also, you're assuming because it's about an animal they wouldn't feel the same if it was a child.

    So we can all go on rants because it invokes an emotional response? No people need to take responsibility for their posts


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    #67
    stop animal cruelty
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    mikom wrote: »
    "this person would die very very slowly and il make sure no one finds that cnut wedged between two walls. He'll never get his head out and see the light of day again"

    In case you missed it....this cruel and disgusting act was proposed to be done to a living person.

    l didn't miss it.

    Why should that "person" not be treated the same way in which s/he treated that living, innocent animal in a cruel way?


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    #68
    steddyeddy
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    FionnMcCool87 wrote: »
    What the hell is wrong with people?

    Just browsing TheJournal.ie and I come across a story about a Lurcher pup that had his throat slashed in Portlaoise yesterday. http://www.thejournal.ie/puppy-throat-slashed-742050-Jan2013/?utm_source=shortlink

    It boils my blood to hear of stories like this. The scumbags that done this will more than likely never be punished for this.

    I despair sometimes thinking that these kind of people are walking around the streets.

    :(

    Also seals and the sea eagles which are both protected species. The seals were decaptiated. and the golden eagles were poisoned. Seriously I am anti peta but they need to import their own style of punishment from America too here. Not one conviction as far as I know.


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    #69
    Odysseus
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    Patchy~ wrote: »
    I also certainly wouldn't have any compassion if that were to happen to the people responsible anyway. I don't know why anyone would.

    So what would you feel? Out of interest? Could you carry out that act? Could you watch?


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    #70
    My name is URL
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    Hope the dog is okay.

    AH is very weird today... people seem a lot more angry than they usually are, and that's some feat!


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    #71
    mikom
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    stop animal cruelty wrote: »
    l didn't miss it.

    Why should that "person" not be treated the same way in which s/he treated that living, innocent animal in a cruel way?

    There is no death penalty in this country for the murder of humans, let alone lurcher pups.

    This goes even further than the death penalty......... "this person would die very very slowly and il make sure no one finds that cnut wedged between two walls. He'll never get his head out and see the light of day again"


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    #72
    mf240
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    Dont think its a complete myth that people who do this kind of thing to animals turn into serial killers (obviously a tiny %)

    But it does display a complete absence of empathy for the suffering of another creature, something that a serial killer would require.


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    #73
    Odysseus
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    stop animal cruelty wrote: »
    l didn't miss it.

    Why should that "person" not be treated the same way in which s/he treated that living, innocent animal in a cruel way?

    Because we do not class animals as humans. However, more importantly this is devient behaviour, what does that make us if we act the same way?


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    #74
    The Th!ng
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    The piece of sub-human scum that did this should get a bullet in their misbegotten brain.


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    #75
    Odysseus
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    mf240 wrote: »
    Dont think its a complete myth that people who do this kind of thing to animals turn into serial killers (obviously a tiny %)

    But it does display a complete absence of empathy for the suffering of another creature, something that a serial killer would require.

    Any links to any type of research that backs up that claim?


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    #76
    stop animal cruelty
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    mikom wrote: »
    There is no death penalty in this country for the murder of humans, let alone lurcher pups.

    This goes even further than the death penalty......... "this person would die very very slowly and il make sure no one finds that cnut wedged between two walls. He'll never get his head out and see the light of day again"

    Doesn't mean the scum should not be treated the same way he treated that animal. You might as well be saying, its ok to what s/he has done.

    The animal did nothing wrong. This scum is slashed its neck & left for dead. What the hell does that say about them?


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    #77
    Bullseye1
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    mikom wrote: »
    "this person would die very very slowly and il make sure no one finds that cnut wedged between two walls. He'll never get his head out and see the light of day again"

    In case you missed it....this cruel and disgusting act was proposed to be done to a living person.

    Most people don't condone violence even toward these people. But it is interesting that you have turned the subject matter from animal cruelty to another topic altogether.

    Out of curiosity how do you feel about the OP since you haven't actually commented on it but on other people's responses?


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    #78
    Odysseus
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    stop animal cruelty wrote: »
    Doesn't mean the scum should not be treated the same way he treated that animal. You might as well be saying, its ok to what s/he has done.

    The animal did nothing wrong. This scum is slashed its neck & left for dead. What the hell does that say about them?

    To really know what it says about them we would need to ask that person and we can't do that.

    However, how does not agreeing with you some mean a person is saying it is ok to engage in such behaviour.

    Not one person in this thread has stated or implied that such behaviour is OK.


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    #79
    stop animal cruelty
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    Odysseus wrote: »
    Because we do not class animals as humans. However, more importantly this is devient behaviour, what does that make us if we act the same way?

    An animal feels pain the same way as a human does. Only differences between human & animals is the power humans have & we walk on 2 legs.


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    #80
    Jimoslimos
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    mf240 wrote: »
    Dont think its a complete myth that people who do this kind of thing to animals turn into serial killers (obviously a tiny %)
    Confirmation bias. Mention a few serial killers who have also killed animals previously and a seed is planted in people's heads.

    Usually neglect to mention the countless acts of animal cruelty that do not result in human murder or the serial killers who have never harmed an animal.


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    #81
    dark crystal
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    Odysseus wrote: »
    So we can all go on rants because it invokes an emotional response? No people need to take responsibility for their posts

    Yes, people can go on rants if they feel an emotional response. They're human, they feel anger. So what?

    What harm are they causing anyone by writing how they feel exactly?


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    #82
    Chuck Stone
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    mikom wrote: »
    Something like the licences required for salmon and sea trout fishing?

    Because fishing is the same as torturing a puppy for kicks is it? The vast majority of fishermen care about the fish they catch and put them back mostly unharmed.
    Odysseus wrote: »
    To what end? What use could be made of it?
    The link between animal abuse and interpersonal violence is becoming so well established that many U.S. communities now cross-train social-service and animal-control agencies in how to recognize signs of animal abuse as possible indicators of other abusive behaviors.

    nytimes.com

    Also, a register could be used, primarily, to send the message 'we're watching you you cunt'.


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    #83
    stop animal cruelty
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    Odysseus wrote: »
    To really know what it says about them we would need to ask that person and we can't do that.

    However, how does not agreeing with you some mean a person is saying it is ok to engage in such behaviour.

    Not one person in this thread has stated or implied that such behaviour is OK.

    I am getting the impression that some people think this behaviour is ok, it doesn;t need to be stated.


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    #84
    tin79
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    stop animal cruelty wrote: »

    l wish l could get my hands on those cu#ts & show them what cruelty feels like. Anyone who carries out a cruel act like this to an animal or human being for that matter, IMO, deserves a severe pushiment, not a fine or prison, a good hard beating.

    I fully agree violence is wrong. It needs to be punished with more violence.

    I am gonna guess you were never on the school debating team.


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    #85
    Odysseus
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    dark crystal wrote: »
    Yes, people can go on rants if they feel an emotional response. They're human, they feel anger. So what?

    What harm are they causing anyone by writing how they feel exactly?

    So it is OK to propose acts of violence towards others because they are angry? Getting angry mean they can bypass personal responsiblity for their posts.

    What is they get angry about a person who is of a different race, can they rant about that race then?

    I thought the concept was discussion here, not ranting?

    Can we just have a rant whenever we gat angry now, or just on the net?


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    #86
    tin79
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    stop animal cruelty wrote: »
    An animal feels pain the same way as a human does. Only differences between human & animals is the power humans have & we walk on 2 legs.

    Chickens walk on two legs. Is it the just the power thing bewteen us and them so?


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    #87
    stop animal cruelty
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    tin79 wrote: »
    I fully agree violence is wrong. It needs to be punished with more violence.

    I am gonna guess you were never on the school debating team.

    Well you've guessed wrong.


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    #88
    stop animal cruelty
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    tin79 wrote: »
    Chickens walk on two legs. Is it the just the power thing bewteen us and them so?

    Nit pick away, but surely you get my point.


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    #89
    MaxSteele
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    I couldn't care less how violent the revenge fantasies are when taking into account the sick, cretin cunt of a thing which would slice a defenceless animals throat. Fuck him and the faux outrage at emotional responses on this thread. You all know well why people react this way.

    Hope the vermin scum who did this suffers a sudden bout of Locked in Syndrome. :mad:


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    #90
    tin79
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    stop animal cruelty wrote: »
    Nit pick away, but surely you get my point.

    I dont. I think your point is complete tripe. I think Odysseus` point is the point I get.


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    #91
    Bullseye1
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    Odysseus wrote: »
    So it is OK to propose acts of violence towards others because they are angry? Getting angry mean they can bypass personal responsiblity for their posts.

    What is they get angry about a person who is of a different race, can they rant about that race then?

    I thought the concept was discussion here, not ranting?

    Can we just have a rant whenever we gat angry now, or just on the net?

    In fairness this is your fourth or fifth time asking if its okay to condone violence towards other humans. The OP subject matter is about cruelty to animals. Every time this subject is brought up its turned around to violence against people, its quite frustrating.


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