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    #542
    questionmark?
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    Dum_Dum wrote: »
    Yeah, poor Brum. How will they cope?

    Meanwhile, back in Prosperity Central, I've lost count of the gold-plated private jets using Waterford Airport. It's future is certain with that tiny runway serving local Waterford oligarchs - the Ryanair hater's were right all along. Waterford plebs don't deserve to fly anyway.

    Helpful and well thought out post. Well done.

    Now back to a Waterford Airport discussion for the rest of us.


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    #543
    O Riain
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    questionmark? wrote: »
    Helpful and well thought out post. Well done.

    Now back to a Waterford Airport discussion for the rest of us.

    He's right (I think)! Everybody always hailed Waterford airport for resisting Ryanair. For all their faults, it seems to me that the airport's with Ryanair are doing quiet well and we are doing.... Well we are not doing at all.

    To not have the biggest airline in Europe flying out of our airport is something that beggars belief.


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    #544
    JCX BXC
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    O Riain wrote: »
    He's right (I think)! Everybody always hailed Waterford airport for resisting Ryanair. For all their faults, it seems to me that the airport's with Ryanair are doing quiet well and we are doing.... Well we are not doing at all.

    To not have the biggest airline in Europe flying out of our airport is something that beggars belief.

    You do realise, than Ryanair cannot actually fly to WAT, due to runway length?


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    #545
    Wanderer78
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    You do realise, than Ryanair cannot actually fly to WAT, due to runway length?

    am i right in saying that the new runway plans still cant accommodate ryanair?


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    #546
    O Riain
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    You do realise, than Ryanair cannot actually fly to WAT, due to runway length?

    Suppose therein lies the problem, only way to get the money is from the government and they would rather deliver a 15th runway to Dublin before they would give an extension to Waterford. I'm just frustrated and a lot of people on here were always harping on about how good it was not to have Ryanair here when, in fact, it is anything but good.


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    #547
    JCX BXC
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    O Riain wrote: »
    Suppose therein lies the problem, only way to get the money is from the government and they would rather deliver a 15th runway to Dublin before they would give an extension to Waterford. I'm just frustrated and a lot of people on here were always harping on about how good it was not to have Ryanair here when, in fact, it is anything but good.

    The goverment aren't funding Dublin's Runway, the DAA is funding it itself.

    I'm also not sure if Ryanair is anything good. Its one thing getting a service, its another thing keeping it.


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    #548
    O Riain
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    The goverment aren't funding Dublin's Runway, the DAA is funding it itself.

    I'm also not sure if Ryanair is anything good. Its one thing getting a service, its another thing keeping it.

    Kerry and knock still seem to have their services..


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    #549
    fuzzy dunlop
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    The goverment aren't funding Dublin's Runway, the DAA is funding it itself.

    I'm also not sure if Ryanair is anything good. Its one thing getting a service, its another thing keeping it.


    The government funded T2. This was a major capital investment. The airport itself was a state funded enterprise to begin with.


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    #550
    JCX BXC
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    fuzzy dunlop wrote: »
    The government funded T2. This was a major capital investment. The airport itself was a state funded enterprise to begin with.

    "To begin with"


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    #551
    fuzzy dunlop
    Registered Users Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭fuzzy dunlop


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    "To begin with"


    It doesn't matter. To begin with you could have funded an airport anywhere and it would eventually break even if there was no competition allowed.


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    #552
    TheQuietFella
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    The demand just isn't there regardless of which carrier or runway length

    we might have. We realistically would need an airport somewhat in size to

    Cork/Shannon with all the facilities and that's just not going to happen.

    It cannot be justified in terms of cost or threats to other operational airports.


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    #553
    JCX BXC
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    O Riain wrote: »
    Kerry and knock still seem to have their services..

    Both have been downscaled compared to previous years, and are not comparable to WAT anyway.

    Look at LDY, that airport has been absolutely destroyed, all other carriers are gone leaving only Ryanair to run an Abysmal 9x weekly STN and 5x weekly GLA and LPL, with FAO running at 2pw for 1 or 2 months in the summer.


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    #554
    O Riain
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    "To begin with"

    Keep in mind the DAA are not a private company!


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    #555
    JCX BXC
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    O Riain wrote: »
    Keep in mind the DAA are not a private company!

    What is WAT?


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    #556
    bookworms
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    I see now that the Luton route has had a timetable change.


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    #557
    CantGetNoSleep
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    VLM in trouble it seems - asking for protection from creditors in Belgium today


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    #558
    Bards
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    CantGetNoSleep wrote: »
    VLM in trouble it seems - asking for protection from creditors in Belgium today

    Here's the link http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/News/1.2654640


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    #559
    bookworms
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    Oh dear. I hope the airline can get over this. It will be a blow to the region. We have always supported the Waterford Luton route while it was there and we are flying out in a month's time. I hope the service will still be there by then.


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    #560
    b757
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    Possible funding for the runway going ahead. Extra €10 million allocated to the regional airports.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/independent-td-got-funds-for-runway-in-government-deal-1.2654100


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    #561
    O Riain
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    b757 wrote: »
    Possible funding for the runway going ahead. Extra 10 million allocated to the regional airports.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/independent-td-got-funds-for-runway-in-government-deal-1.2654100

    How much to build a runway big enough to accommodate decent size planes?


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    #562
    man98
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    That €10 million is meaningless from what I'm led to believe as it can only be used for safety enhancements.


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    #563
    Wanderer78
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    man98 wrote: »
    That €10 million is meaningless from what I'm led to believe as it can only be used for safety enhancements.

    bit sceptical of this myself, but sure we ll take it. can never be too safe in that game


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    #564
    bookworms
    Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭bookworms


    Well after yesterday's incident it would be welcome. According to the news and star the front landing gear wasn't able to come down. The plane diverted to Dublin where thankfully the landing gear did come down. No one injured thank God


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    #565
    CantGetNoSleep
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    VLM gone almost immediately it seems


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    #566
    Kotek Besar
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    CantGetNoSleep wrote: »
    VLM gone almost immediately it seems


    16th June apparently.
    VLM will discontinue services to London Luton from the 16th June. Please contact our front desk for VLM contact details for reimbursement.


    https://twitter.com/watairport/status/739037227745980416


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    #567
    Edward Hopper
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    Gutted about this, my late Dad loved this airport and VLM, all the staff were great to him the few times he travelled even with his declining health. I'd never flown from there and hoped (probably with too much romanticism) to fly from there myself soon. The staff there deserve a bit of luck and wish them and the airport generally well.


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    #568
    O Riain
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    Ryanair not looking so bad now


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    #569
    Kotek Besar
    Registered Users Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Kotek Besar


    O Riain wrote: »
    Ryanair not looking so bad now

    They'd look even better if they started flying from Waterford again.


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    #570
    O Riain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭O Riain


    Kotek Besar wrote: »
    O Riain wrote: »
    Ryanair not looking so bad now

    They'd look even better if they started flying from Waterford again.

    We need the longer runway. Its absolutely vital.


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    #571
    Kotek Besar
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    O Riain wrote: »
    We need the longer runway. Its absolutely vital.

    Good job the council have all that property tax cash now then, they can pull their finger out and pay for it, reaping the rewards later with enhanced transport links to the south east meaning a huge economy boost.


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