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Lads who are not interested in sport

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    walshb wrote: »
    I don't believe you. Sorry. In my world the statistics are very much different. For every woman I know that says she likes soccer/sport I know ten men who say the same thing.

    Ok, maybe I need to say this slower.

    Lots of men like sport. Lots of women like sport. While I have no statistics on this, there are probably a lot more men that like sport more than women. I think we can agree on that?

    This doesn't change the fact that what you said is incredibly stupid, wrong and plain sexist:
    walshb wrote: »
    As for the female soccer fans. Almost all of these couldn't give a toss about the sport of soccer. It's just fashionable for them to support a soccer team.

    In fact, I would wager that almost all female soccer fans DO give a toss about the sport of soccer. The same way almost all music fans, do care about music. Almost all people who say they enjoy cooking, like cooking. Almost all self proclaimed movie fans, enjoy movies

    etc. etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55,161 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    This doesn't change the fact that what you said is incredibly stupid, wrong and plain sexist:
    .

    Chill. No need to take it so serious. Stupid, maybe, but incredibly stupid? Give a guy a break!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    walshb wrote: »
    Chill. No need to take it so serious. Stupid, maybe, but incredibly stupid? Give a guy a break!

    At least you've admitted it's stupid. I'm sorry but I take offence when someone generalises a whole gender. Substitute 'black' in for 'female' and you would be in big trouble but hey, you're only talking about a whole gender so who cares


  • Registered Users Posts: 55,161 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    At least you've admitted it's stupid. I'm sorry but I take offence when someone generalises a whole gender. Substitute 'black' in for 'female' and you would be in big trouble but hey, you're only talking about a whole gender so who cares

    I'm trying to meet you half way. Ok, I may have been OTT, it's just that from my views and interaction I see so many women who to me look not at all interested in soccer yet they crowd the pubs and don the jersey's. Yes, men too in this bracket, but loads more women.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    walshb wrote: »
    I'm trying to meet you half way. Ok, I may have been OTT, it's just that from my views and interaction I see so many women who to me look not at all interested in soccer yet they crowd the pubs and don the jersey's. Yes, men too in this bracket, but loads more women.

    You're entitled to your view but I won't be meeting you half way anywhere. Believe what you like but I strongly disagree with what you are presenting as fact, that almost all women who show interest in football aren't actually interested in it. If you're not convinced by what I've said so far, so be it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 55,161 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    You're entitled to your view but I won't be meeting you half way anywhere. Believe what you like but I strongly disagree with what you are presenting as fact, that almost all women who show interest in football aren't actually interested in it. If you're not convinced by what I've said so far, so be it.

    Ok.


  • Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭CdeC


    I say a lot of lads only follow the sport to be part of the group. It's like a language for men when there's awkward silence.

    Once I got asked what team I supported and when I replied that I didn't
    support any english football team the look of disgust on his face.
    I may as well have wiped my arse with a puppy.

    I play rugby and I support leinster, I reckon the OP should take up a team sport, it's a great way to meet people and always good nights out after games.


  • Registered Users Posts: 466 ✭✭askU


    Well everyone is different. It would be a sad world if everyone liked say pottery... variety is good...


  • Registered Users Posts: 534 ✭✭✭neaideabh


    Start losing your money on Football accumulator bets and you'll know all about football then!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 346 ✭✭dorkacle


    I'm probably in the same boat as the original post. Tbh I think it mattered more when I was a little younger in school an that, my close friends then where never majorly into sports, so in school I wouldn't have a clue what the other kids where on about half the time!

    As I got older it didn't seem to matter as much.

    I actually probably have a better knowledge of sports now as its an excuse to go for a quiet pint with the lads, even if we are not majorly interested in it! That and playing Fifa helps.... ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Black Leather


    I have no interest whatsoever on sport. That is why I prefer female company as women generally have a broader range of interests. Many Irish males have little else to talk about except sport.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 22,353 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Generalisation 1
    That is why I prefer female company as women generally have a broader range of interests.

    Generalisation 2
    Many Irish males have little else to talk about except sport.

    Neither is true of course. Sport is what some men use as small talk similar to weather. It can also be the subject of conversation between friends.
    It is like saying Many Irish females have little else to talk about except shopping ie it is a lazy stereotype.
    Women do not have a broader range of interests it just seems that your interests better match the group of women you know.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30 agriking101


    A friend of mine used to say that he had far too many important things going on in his head to be bothered trying to remember useless facts about sport.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭Jack breen


    I have zero intrest in sport especially that soccer, I watch a hurling or gaelic match allrite and enjoy it but thats it. I do a lot of physical work during the course of the day so I dont need to be attending gyms or the likes..


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    CdeC wrote: »
    I say a lot of lads only follow the sport to be part of the group. It's like a language for men when there's awkward silence .
    I'd say you're way out with that statement. I don't know anyone who follows a certain sport to be part of the clique. It sounds like something you'd expect from a school boy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 512 ✭✭✭GaryIrv93


    Glad I'm not the only one. I have no interest at all in televised sports eg. soccer, hurling, GAA etc and never had. Although I might watch the odd match or F1 at times, I know next to nothing about any of it, and don't pretend to either. Nearly every conversation I'm in with a group of friends usually leads to them talking about football scores or what not, and I switch off immediately, even leave sometimes. Why everyone seems to take soccer so bloody seriously is beyond me. I suppose though being left out of the conversation on sports with a group is better than pretending to take an interest in it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55,161 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    grenache wrote: »
    I'd say you're way out with that statement. I don't know anyone who follows a certain sport to be part of the clique. It sounds like something you'd expect from a school boy.

    I don't think it's off the mark. I know many who follow the premiership, for example, because it's almost fashionable. You just know they have no real interest in the sport or the skills involved. It's a soap opera to them for 10 months of the year. And, when their team is not playing they couldn't give a damn about the sport. They follow a trend, a fashion, a team. Not the actual sport.


  • Administrators Posts: 53,648 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


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  • Registered Users Posts: 55,161 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    And following something to be part of the clique or to be part of the gang is something that happens in all walks of life. Just look at the hype surrounding Barack Obama when he ran for president. I knew people who hadn't a clue about politics here in Ireland who were championing Barcak. It was the cool thing to do.


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  • Administrators Posts: 53,648 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


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  • Registered Users Posts: 55,161 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    awec wrote: »
    People don't follow football or any other sport just because it's perceived to be cool or they want to be part of the clique. I think that's total nonsense.
    .

    That's nonsense. I am saying some people do. Not all. I am well aware that many support sport because they do actually like it. There are others who follow a sport, or team because it's, well, part of what the gang does. And, there are other people who couldn't give a toss what the gang do, and are not at all influenced. Like I said, being led or supporting something due to it being cool or fashioanble, happens in all walks of life.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55,161 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    awec wrote: »
    What interests do you have? Perhaps if I said you only do them because you want to be different and want attention and want to be able to say "oh look at me, I don't do what the cool kids do" you'd be a bit miffed. And you'd be right to.

    Well, I am genuinely interested in many sports. Many. It's plain to to see that some people are genuinley into sport, and some say they are, and go thru the motions, but they are not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 55,161 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    awec wrote: »
    Football fans follow a football team. That's how it works. :confused:

    Same with most team sports. Rugby, GAA etc.

    That is what I am saying. They follow a team. Many don't follow the actual sport. Many do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭minotour


    Ive no interest in following or watching any sport......bar golf at a very light level. i will however gladly play soccer or hurling knock arounds and hold my own. Some of the biggest chest beaters i know do not and have never engaged in any sport yet they bollick on every week about "we should have done this" and "We played well" in reference to Chelesea or Man U.

    I came clean early in life and made it clear to my crowd that i had no interest in talking about the latest craze, player, scandal, goals, leagues, balls etc. And now i dont have to endure any of it.

    Others in my crowd havent been as honest, it amuses me to see them struggle through a freezing night in Landsdowne, or stumble through pub talk, afraid to get caught out while using last years sporting rerferences. I find Rugby is the biggest fraud exposer as it is not so well covered, die hards have to search for their updates and blow ins quickly fall behind. this is where the chest beaters beat hardest and is the root of the issue.

    I know Im looked down upon by fringe characters as a result of it, if im in good form i'll usually turn the entire conversation to something in my view equally niche and see how they like it, the latest update to CallofDuty for example.

    What does actually annoy me to the point of rage though is the inclusion of SPORT in the News, its not news, its SPORT. Its as relevant as having Jeremy Clarkson bang on about cars for ten minutes after the weather. Newstalk are particularly guilty on this charge, always during my commute too


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭karaokeman


    Its all very corporatized.

    Other than sport, what most people would consider to be "real world news" would imo be topics that are of lesser interest to the masses.

    Subjects like politics and economics for example are obviously very important in this world, but there are many people, particularly young teens etc who would have little interest in them.

    I'd probably agree with awec, its because most people are interested in sports that so much time is dedicated to it, and there's so much coverage in the papers, you wouldn't get that many people excited about cars.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    walshb wrote: »
    And following something to be part of the clique or to be part of the gang is something that happens in all walks of life. Just look at the hype surrounding Barack Obama when he ran for president. I knew people who hadn't a clue about politics here in Ireland who were championing Barcak. It was the cool thing to do.

    And I knew people over here who thought he was called Osama. So what?

    People championed the man because it gave them hope. Because it was an exciting time to live in. It still is.

    That's why I loved the Olympics, even though I'm not a massive sports fan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭Iderown


    Watching sport on TV is a bit like watching porn on TV or watching someone doing mathematics on TV. Probably harmless - may even be educational.
    But much more fun doing it yourself.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    I am into most sports and have supported teams in a variety of sports since I was a kid, once it gets into your blood you can't get it out......and i can tell withing 2 minutes of talking to someone how interested they are in sport, if it's genuine interest, a passing interest, a feigned interest or a non interest

    it doesn't really matter - there are other things to talk about


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