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Windows 8 Launch Discussion
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You haven't really tried windows 8 then have you
Typing from Windows 8 as we speak... although no Modern UI, Windows Store disabled and clock in system tray.
IIRC, the gadget store for their previous OS failed in a quite embarrassing fashion. They had to shut it down after security vulnerabilities have been exposed at a Black Hat conference and that was the end of it.0 -
And why did you upgrade then?Typing from Windows 8 as we speak... although no Modern UI, Windows Store disabled and clock in system tray.
Not exactly a cornerstone of the OS though.IIRC, the gadget store for their previous OS failed in a quite embarrassing fashion. They had to shut it down after security vulnerabilities have been exposed at a Black Hat conference and that was the end of it.
And pointing back to something which failed previously and suggesting they learned nothing from it is farcical.
Here are the actual guidelines for publishing an App in the store:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh694083.aspx0 -
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And why did you upgrade then?
I wouldn't exactly consider it an upgrade but occupational requirements demand that I familiarize myself with Windows 8.Not exactly a cornerstone of the OS though.
I don't think, Windows Store is a "cornerstone" of Windows 8. As a matter of fact, it works surprisingly well without it.And pointing back to something which failed previously and suggesting they learned nothing from it is farcical.
I you fail try again? Hey, I'm all for it.
However, if adding spyware (although with nothing but our safety and well-being in mind) is the solution, I foster severe doubts that they have learned anything.0 -
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Windows Update also "spies" on your system. It detects what hardware and software you are running in order to deliver the correct updates for things like Office, Windows, and device drivers. It's been doing this for years.
Who says I'm using automatic updates on my Windows computers? The patches and bugfixes are available as offline installers, you know?Internet sites also "spy" on your system configuration as well. It's a functional part of delivering content in a format your browser can rasterize.
Have you ever heard of VPN, firewalls, browser masking, etc.? With little effort you can easily control the flow of such information.PS you agreed to the functionality that windows requires in order to delete apps from your system when you installed Windows 8: it was in the license agreement. You are currently signed up for this "spyware". It doesn't matter if you install an App or not.
I did indeed. But I have installed Windows 8 on a spare HDD and disconnected the two other drives. The computer in question is severed from my home network. So I consider myself fairly safe under my tinfoil hat.
I really don't plan on using this Windows 8 installation extensively but it is handy to have if I need to test some software or reproduce an error, for example. Folks who come to me with their problems and expect me to have the solution.I think the only people who need to be the least bit concerned about this are people with government security clearance and purveyors of child pornography.
This is the old "If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear" adage, proven wrong on so many occasions. I'm not buying it.
The kids who grew up with their media players and smartphones controlled by Apple, Google, Amazon et al and who think that sharing their music, videos and photos in the cloud is the best thing since sliced bread, may ask, "So, what's the big deal"? But for me, privacy is still a very important issue.
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MSFT Reporting during it's debut weekend, Windows 8 sold over 4 million upgrade licenses. That presumably doesn't include new PC sales; some retailers like Dixons are reporting sales that are 20% beyond their forecasts.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/microsoft-sold-4-million-windows-8-upgrades-in-three-days/
The Microsoft Store now also has 9000 apps worldwide, and 3,751 Developers; 88% of those apps are free. The average price of a paid app is $1.49, and one of the most expensive is $499.99 (one for $999.99 no longer appears to be present)
http://www.winappupdate.com/windows-store-taking-inventory-at-launch/
At it's BUILD Conference on Tuesday, MSFT played host to over 2,000 developers. The meeting agenda was app creation for Windows 8 and RT. Each and every one received a promotional Surface RT Tablet, Nokia Lumia 920 phone, and 100GB of SkyDrive storage. Big names like Twitter and ESPN are on board; no sign of Facebook as of yet, whom only just a few months ago finally pushed a major overhaul of it's iOS app which had previously been a gigantic pile of muck.
MSFT is also stating that 8 is selling at at faster rate than 7 did. 15 licenses per second in the first 3 days, just on the sale of upgrade licenses alone (not including OEM, according to these figures). Windows 7 is currently still MSFTs most successful OS ever, selling 670 million licenses to date at a rate of 7 new licenses per second. Windows XP sold less than 600 million licenses over 9 years. Vista also sold 7 copies/second during it's first month but within 5 this dropped to <5 and continued to decline (it's first month sales only marginally better than XP's and likely accounted for by total PC ownership). These are interesting figures but not entirely conclusive of a victory; just an interesting indicator that it's having a win right now. The nearest contrast this year I can think of is the New iPad (iPad 3, A5x) launch, which sold 3 million units in it's first 3 days.0 -
MSFT Reporting during it's debut weekend, Windows 8 sold over 4 million upgrade licenses. That presumably doesn't include new PC sales; some retailers like Dixons are reporting sales that are 20% beyond their forecasts.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/microsoft-sold-4-million-windows-8-upgrades-in-three-days/
The Microsoft Store now also has 9000 apps worldwide, and 3,751 Developers; 88% of those apps are free. The average price of a paid app is $1.49, and one of the most expensive is $499.99 (one for $999.99 no longer appears to be present)
http://www.winappupdate.com/windows-store-taking-inventory-at-launch/
At it's BUILD Conference on Tuesday, MSFT played host to over 2,000 developers. The meeting agenda was app creation for Windows 8 and RT. Each and every one received a promotional Surface RT Tablet, Nokia Lumia 920 phone, and 100GB of SkyDrive storage. Big names like Twitter and ESPN are on board; no sign of Facebook as of yet, whom only just a few months ago finally pushed a major overhaul of it's iOS app which had previously been a gigantic pile of muck.
MSFT is also stating that 8 is selling at at faster rate than 7 did. 15 licenses per second in the first 3 days, just on the sale of upgrade licenses alone (not including OEM, according to these figures). Windows 7 is currently still MSFTs most successful OS ever, selling 670 million licenses to date at a rate of 7 new licenses per second. Windows XP sold less than 600 million licenses over 9 years. Vista also sold 7 copies/second during it's first month but within 5 this dropped to <5 and continued to decline (it's first month sales only marginally better than XP's and likely accounted for by total PC ownership). These are interesting figures but not entirely conclusive of a victory; just an interesting indicator that it's having a win right now. The nearest contrast this year I can think of is the New iPad (iPad 3, A5x) launch, which sold 3 million units in it's first 3 days.
It's not surprising. They've been practically giving it away since it came out.0 -
Windows 8 - Winning
Windows 8 sold over 4 million upgrade licenses.
Winning my @rse... probably 99% of these are free or cheap upgrade licenses of which very little have been actually installed. People just redeemed the coupons to grab a cheap license with their recently purchased Windows 7 computer.
And compared 1.5 Billion computers running Windows worldwide, 4 million is SFA. I bet you, by the time Windows 8 is decommissioned, there will be still more computers running Windows XP than Windows 8
uncle_sam_ie wrote: »It's not surprising. They've been practically giving it away since it came out.
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Was the same for XP, came preinstalled for most people. And its got 11yrs head start on Windows 8. What were you expecting?
And people weren't exactly overwhelmed by XP when it was released. It was rather painful on a Pentium III (still the best selling Intel CPU in 2001 and the first Willamettes weren't exactly a quantum leap) w 128 MB RAM.
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4 million in 3 days.Winning my @rse... probably 99% of these are free or cheap upgrade licenses of which very little have been actually installed. People just redeemed the coupons to grab a cheap license with their recently purchased Windows 7 computer.
And compared 1.5 Billion computers running Windows worldwide, 4 million is SFA. I bet you, by the time Windows 8 is decommissioned, there will be still more computers running Windows XP than Windows 8
Exactly.
As I said, there are already more PCs running Windows 7 than Windows XP. Probably far less, given that many XP licenses sold would have now been upgraded through to either vista, or 7, or 8.
In fact here's the general gist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems0 -
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