Property Price Register

Dannyboy83

http://www.propertypriceregister.ie/

It's taken a lifetime to get here, but it's finally available at the url provided.

rodento

will be interesting to see if it affects property prices

Dannyboy83

rodento wrote: »

will be interesting to see if it affects property prices

Based on the research I've done so far, houses have been selling for about 20% below the asking prices in the areas I've been looking at - with the odd person getting absolutely screwed and paying twice the asking price!

thebman

Why doesn't it give proper details about the houses like number of bedrooms etc...?

Kind of defeats the purpose TBH. For all you know, one bedroom apartments are dragging down the price in an area.

Wow parents area can't find any results but in the area I rent houses are still over 120,000 which I wouldn't have expected given the size and quality of the housing.

Our landlord had it inspected to do it up for insulation etc.. to get a good BER rating for it and was told it wasn't going to be worth his while which is when we moved out.

NIMAN

Well, our house is in there.

Cookie_Monster

28/03/2012 €337,783.15

who pays such a specific amount?

Sleepy

A repossession? Or someone who said "I'll give you 350,000 if you cover X, Y or Z" and that's the amount left after paying for X,Y and Z?

Definitely an eye opener with regards to what houses are actually moving for in Clontarf. It's a shame they've done everything possible to prevent a price tracking website from comparing the sales prices with final asking prices on Daft etc.

While there's fairly little info available on the houses google maps and archives of Daft can fill in the blanks easily enough

Diddler1977

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

28/03/2012 €337,783.15

who pays such a specific amount?

Someone who buys their parents house? Gifted part of house price and then pays the rest?

Dannyboy83

Sleepy wrote: »

While there's fairly little info available on the houses google maps and archives of Daft can fill in the blanks easily enough

PropertyBee is useful: http://www.property-bee.com/

And Google cache

magicbastarder

is the price you pay (in what would generally be considered by most people as a private transaction) a matter of public record?
i.e. why should mr. jones be given the ability to snoop on the financial affairs of his new neighbours? or his old neighbours, for that matter?

Geuze

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

28/03/2012 €337,783.15

who pays such a specific amount?

If it's a new house, then that's the VAT-exclusive price.

Kieran6

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

28/03/2012 €337,783.15

who pays such a specific amount?

It maybe a new build. All new builds sold show prices without vat which is 13.5%.

Sleepy

magicbastarder wrote: »

is the price you pay (in what would generally be considered by most people as a private transaction) a matter of public record?
i.e. why should mr. jones be given the ability to snoop on the financial affairs of his new neighbours? or his old neighbours, for that matter?

The loss of that privacy is the cost of a transparent property market.

The benefits by far outweigh that cost in my opinion.

Black Smoke

Property is still damn expensive, considering the dire economy and the total lack of credit:o Where is the money coming from?

magicbastarder

banks are lending, despite what you've heard. i've received mortgage approval.

Zamboni

magicbastarder wrote: »

banks are lending, despite what you've heard. i've received mortgage approval.

One swallow doesn't make a summer

markpb

Black Smoke wrote: »

Property is still damn expensive, considering the dire economy and the total lack of credit:o Where is the money coming from?

I guess it depends on you and the people you know. No-one I know has taken a pay cut, lots of people (in IT) are moving to other jobs to get pay rises. Several people I know have bought or are in the process of buying houses. None of them would be well off, they just saved hard and have what the banks perceive to be solid jobs: public sector, education, nursing, accounting and IT.

I'm not saying that there isn't a downturn and people aren't being badly affected but I think people hear the negative news coverage and assume it applies to everyone which really isn't true.

Black Smoke

markpb wrote: »

I guess it depends on you and the people you know. No-one I know has taken a pay cut, lots of people (in IT) are moving to other jobs to get pay rises. Several people I know have bought or are in the process of buying houses. None of them would be well off, they just saved hard and have what the banks perceive to be solid jobs: public sector, education, nursing and IT.

I'm not saying that there isn't a downturn and people aren't being badly affected but I think people hear the negative news coverage and assume it applies to everyone which really isn't true.

Gosh, but you must live in a very protected place in society. You don't know "anybody", who has been negatively effected income wise by the crisis?

It's hard to walk down "any" street, in "any" town in Ireland without meeting people in this category and seeing the hard evidence before your eyes, in terms of closed shops, etc, etc,.

IT, is a good place to be, but not for everyone. The public sector is a good place to be, IF, you were on the inside, when CP was set up.

Now, the newbie public sector workers, get a much tougher deal, and are probably no more credit worthy than average Joe (excluding IT Joe), in the private sector.

magicbastarder

posted on a different thread - it purports to list all sales, but i have spotted an omission of a sale which i know went through, so the data is probably not fully comprehensive:

https://www.google.com/fusiontables/embedviz?viz=MAP&q=select+col1+from+1DPF-P9zWyqh9Cs1lshvOuIf8jOliDmOvNsdyu3w&h=false&lat=53.30462107510271&lng=-6.686837515624968&z=7&t=1&l=col1

magicbastarder

markpb wrote: »

I guess it depends on you and the people you know. No-one I know has taken a pay cut, lots of people (in IT) are moving to other jobs to get pay rises. Several people I know have bought or are in the process of buying houses. None of them would be well off, they just saved hard and have what the banks perceive to be solid jobs: public sector, education, nursing and IT.

it's also a lot due to constricted supply. there's far less available now; potentially partly due to people not being able to afford to sell their houses, and realise their negative equity in the process.

Dannyboy83

magicbastarder wrote: »

banks are lending, despite what you've heard. i've received mortgage approval.

You need to satisfy certain criteria:
A) Net to have an effective net disposable income of €1200
Need to save €1000 per month to prove you can handle stress tests etc. (rent can compose part of that €1000, it's just proving your ability to service a mortgage)
C) Need to save up your 8%-12% yourself (cannot be gifted/helicoptered to you)

Maysa07

Can't get pass the CAPTCHA search thingy on that site!?

Brussels Sprout

Maysa07 wrote: »

Can't get pass the CAPTCHA search thingy on that site!?

Try this instead. Courtesy of Road Runner in a different thread

ednwireland

i'm still trying to figure which house sold in my townland for €235000 :eek: nothing worth that round here, also one down the road which was advertised at €179000 actually sold for 120000 (4bed)

creedp

Black Smoke wrote: »

Gosh, but you must live in a very protected place in society. You don't know "anybody", who has been negatively effected income wise by the crisis?

It's hard to walk down "any" street, in "any" town in Ireland without meeting people in this category and seeing the hard evidence before your eyes, in terms of closed shops, etc, etc,.

IT, is a good place to be, but not for everyone. The public sector is a good place to be, IF, you were on the inside, when CP was set up.

Now, the newbie public sector workers, get a much tougher deal, and are probably no more credit worthy than average Joe (excluding IT Joe), in the private sector.

Why do you find that so difficult to understand? In my extended family circle the only people who have taken pay cuts over the last 4 years are the public servants (teacher, nurse, civil servant). The private sector employees have either had pay freezes or pay increases and the usual bonus arrangements in 2 cases. Yes one is in IT - a small IT support company - the others are in the pharmaceutical side, GP support staff, banking, dental surgery support staff, food manufacturing. The downside of course is that 3 are in construction related industries and 2 have lost their jobs, the 3rd is in engineering and although not as busy is keeping going. So although its popular to state that all are sufferring equally, that is not factually correct.

A big part of the consumer downturn must also relate to the reduction in unsustainable consumerism funded through easy credit during the boom. Now people are less likely to spend on credit and instead are saving larger parts of their income which results in a double whammy for the retail sector. The point being made that reductions in retail are not simply related to reducing incomes but to more careful money management.

Brussels Sprout

Any chance we could leave the public sector vs private sector stuff out of this thread?

Scofflaw

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Any chance we could leave the public sector vs private sector stuff out of this thread?

Yes, that would be nice, and save us buying more penalty cards (thus exacerbating the retail decline, alas).

moderately,
Scofflaw

rod flanders

Ouch! Screw the Property Price Register for ruining my day. Going by the sale price of houses in my area, they are only 1/3 of what I paid 5 years ago.:(

maroondog

magicbastarder wrote: »

posted on a different thread - it purports to list all sales, but i have spotted an omission of a sale which i know went through, so the data is probably not fully comprehensive:

https://www.google.com/fusiontables/embedviz?viz=MAP&q=select+col1+from+1DPF-P9zWyqh9Cs1lshvOuIf8jOliDmOvNsdyu3w&h=false&lat=53.30462107510271&lng=-6.686837515624968&z=7&t=1&l=col1

Great see the Price Register go live, im looking at buying like lots of people and this is very useful. I see magicbastarder mention an omission, im not sure the register is capturing all sales either. My sister bought a house last year and its not on the register. Not sure why its not up, shes no idea why its missing either. I'm fairly sure its up the solicitor of the buyer to submit the details of a sale. I know this only my 2nd post here (people usually dubious about people with very few posts), usually just read the threads but just thought id mention this.

krd

maroondog wrote: »

My sister bought a house last year and its not on the register. Not sure why its not up, shes no idea why its missing either. I'm fairly sure its up the solicitor of the buyer to submit the details of a sale.

She should check that her solicitor fully processed the sale.

Scofflaw

Some preliminary fun with the figures - houses in Dublin (not flats):

Area|Sales|Average
Ballsbridge|34|€1,097,288.62
Rathmichael|3|€844,333.33
Sandycove|14|€746,932.64
Foxrock|40|€713,967.18
Rathmines|47|€708,011.85
Donnybrook|45|€696,565.82
Dartry|5|€692,400.00
Dalkey|47|€688,492.98
Rathgar|59|€641,510.15
Sandymount|40|€592,355.13
Ranelagh|41|€542,527.76
Mount Merrion|23|€537,215.22
Blackrock|116|€507,428.63
Monkstown|34|€478,589.26
Malahide|73|€474,464.38
Howth|20|€459,675.00
Glenageary|27|€454,018.52
Carrickmines|12|€445,961.75
Santry|32|€445,883.19
Clonskeagh|21|€441,604.76
Clontarf|83|€436,666.27
Terenure|49|€432,505.10
Kilmacud|3|€428,166.67
Killiney|50|€417,823.10
Portmarnock|20|€388,450.00
Goatstown|21|€380,547.62
Churchtown|40|€375,434.53
Sutton|41|€372,487.80
Ballyboughal|3|€368,333.33
Booterstown|21|€361,665.51
Deansgrange|3|€360,000.00
Castleknock|86|€357,402.27
Dun Laoghaire|54|€352,822.34
Dundrum|65|€352,505.38
Stillorgan|42|€346,284.52
Cabinteely|26|€345,052.86
Templeogue|30|€335,633.33
Harold's Cross|7|€334,857.14
Upper Kilmacud Road|6|€325,162.50
Knocklyon|20|€323,300.00
Rathfarnham|136|€313,523.28
Leopardstown|20|€306,395.48
Milltown|16|€301,902.38
Ballinteer|34|€296,739.71
Portobello|11|€295,454.55
Donabate|28|€291,756.80
Drumcondra|61|€291,551.07
Collins Avenue|4|€291,278.00
Raheny|55|€290,508.42
Sandyford|34|€282,851.03
Perrystown|6|€281,258.33
Shankill|50|€271,494.35
The Gasworks|3|€269,654.92
Harolds Cross|14|€256,821.43
Glasnevin|71|€255,686.62
Skerries|43|€254,735.84
Stepaside|23|€249,849.12
Griffith Avenue|4|€249,000.00
Rathcoole|30|€245,641.09
Loughlinstown|7|€243,142.86
Baldoyle|18|€240,187.50
Ballycullen|6|€237,133.33
Chapelizod|12|€236,500.00
Blackhorse Avenue|4|€234,750.00
Malahide Road|5|€232,582.72
Oldtown|4|€232,500.00
Glasthule|5|€227,800.00
Navan Road|27|€224,298.15
Fairview|19|€220,473.68
Marino|14|€215,571.43
South Circular Road|28|€214,274.46
Phibsborough|16|€214,189.06
Ongar|7|€213,084.00
Lucan|118|€212,853.98
Barrow Street|6|€211,434.51
Rush|10|€210,458.26
Kimmage|13|€210,346.15
Tyrrelstown|58|€210,188.89
Beaumont|20|€207,050.00
East Wall|9|€206,222.22
Firhouse|23|€205,660.87
Artane|63|€205,186.51
Killester|20|€204,172.50
Kilmainham|18|€204,109.73
Phibsboro|23|€198,652.17
Sallynoggin|16|€195,656.25
Bray|9|€194,444.44
Swords|100|€192,946.64
Irishtown|6|€190,666.67
Hanover Quay|3|€190,000.00
Glenamuck Road|5|€188,471.42
Clarehall|7|€184,142.86
Clonshaugh|5|€182,648.28
Palmerstown|27|€180,185.19
Donaghmede|18|€178,527.78
Parkgate Street|3|€178,500.00
Clonsilla|52|€174,936.54
Ashtown|6|€174,144.98
Whitehall|29|€173,479.31
North Circular Road|6|€173,333.33
Kinsealy|6|€173,166.67
Lusk|15|€172,833.33
Temple Bar|3|€171,333.33
Walkinstown|51|€169,373.04
Newcastle|8|€167,320.50
Clonee|29|€165,120.69
Kingswood|7|€164,285.71
Adamstown|41|€162,839.02
Upper Mayor Street|12|€161,286.61
Finglas|97|€160,042.49
Ringsend|17|€158,882.35
Ayrfield|5|€158,200.00
Donnycarney|9|€157,527.78
Ard Na Greine|6|€156,916.67
Portrane|3|€155,000.00
Citywest|3|€154,166.67
Castaheany|10|€153,000.00
Kilbarrack|7|€152,825.00
Hollystown|23|€150,891.12
Hansfield|15|€150,737.92
Saggart|14|€150,582.44
Coolock|16|€148,604.13
Coolmine|4|€147,500.00
Stoneybatter|13|€146,057.71
Kilnamanagh|4|€144,750.00
Ballybrack|16|€144,628.13
Cabra|49|€142,656.71
North Strand|4|€141,250.00
Tallaght|92|€140,978.42
Blanchardstown|37|€138,600.39
Carrickmines Manor|3|€136,196.67
Clondalkin|76|€135,160.86
Hampton Wood|10|€135,055.11
Finglas East|6|€133,583.33
Inchicore|34|€132,888.50
Rialto|21|€131,155.65
Balgriffin|5|€130,780.18
Meakstown|6|€129,000.00
Smithfield|5|€128,400.00
Drimnagh|35|€126,721.43
Arbour Hill|4|€123,826.50
Crumlin|71|€122,937.54
Finglas West|5|€119,541.87
Hartstown|3|€117,500.00
Balbriggan|42|€114,885.43
Bluebell|5|€97,500.00
Maryland|4|€96,333.75
Ballyfermot|49|€93,812.45
Mulhuddart|12|€88,175.36
Poppintree|4|€85,860.00
Ballymun|10|€74,054.78
The Coombe|4|€71,187.50
Darndale|5|€41,147.40

Top and bottom of the table are unsurprising.