Off The Ball Official Thread <Mod Note - Post #1, #533, #6651>

monstermag

It would have been a whole different conversation if it was Padraic Harrington who had played a round of golf with Trump. No problem with the lads talking politics when it's sports related, but that was churlish in the extreme, they just went off in a rant about Trump. Would they have come down so hard on Mcilroy if he had golfed with Obama when he was in office, barring in mind Obama sanctioned the dropping of bombs on the middle east like they were going out of fashion and it could be argued that is partly responsible for the refugee crisis with his and Hillarys ill-fated venture in Libya. Is Ger molding Joe into a mini Ger?

PeterTheNinth

monstermag wrote: »

Is Ger molding Joe into a mini Ger?

It struck me last night that this indeed what is happening. What annoys me most about the Trump thing and other topics, is that when they bring somebody on to contribute, they ask loaded questions. Joe Molloy wont ask the person "What did you think of McIlroy playing with Trump?". He will say something like "It was terrible that Rory did this, what was he thinking?". So the contributor then really has no comfortable way to give an opinion that doesn't agree with the statement that Joe has already made. Joe Duffy does similar.

Mantis Toboggan

I agree with the above, it really is getting painful to listen to. Second captains has gone the same way.

Tell me how

Tyson Fury wrote: »

I agree with the above, it really is getting painful to listen to. Second captains has gone the same way.

What is the best sports themed show to listen to? In your opinion.

applehunter

Bryan Cooper came across like a dour character on the Gordan Elliot feature last night.

Lt Dan

applehunter wrote: »

Bryan Cooper came across like a dour character on the Gordan Elliot feature last night.

In fairness, he does get some serious abuse though.How are ye at 5am in the morning ,with rain and cold?

I'd imagine the build up to Cheltenham is an absolute nightmare even for the media friendly trainers and jockies. The world and their mother comes out, for one time of the year, with media people who give token coverage to the sport and all they want is tips. - Of course, his attitude might not help. He seems to be alright when he gets interviewed for RTE. At least he was honest and not bland with Ger and Kevin. In fairness, Ger and Kevin did a brilliant piece, very enjoyable, and good radio

applehunter

Enjoyed it.

Lt Dan

applehunter wrote: »

Enjoyed it.

It would be class if they do something like this more often . I know it is extremely hard for radio, but even without the images the lads did a super job giving the listeners an idea of what a yard is like in the morning.

Would be great if they rope Ballydoyle into something like this at the beginning of the season - strictly no request for tips, just a more general idea of the horses for the year

Jim Bolger, despite the way he holds himself at times, can be very helpful and obliging for interviews.

I understand Kilbane likes the horses and was personally known to Elliot. Shows he has handy connections, not just in footie.

OldMrBrennan83

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PeterTheNinth

Coverage of the Bellew Haye fight was a joke again. The coverage was more about Joe Molloy and Kevin Kilbane being offended by what David Haye said in the build up to the fight, than it was about the fight itself. At this stage they need to change the title of the show to Global Village Does Sport.

Tell me how

PeterTheNinth wrote:

Coverage of the Bellew Haye fight was a joke again. The coverage was more about Joe Molloy and Kevin Kilbane being offended by what David Haye said in the build up to the fight, than it was about the fight itself. At this stage they need to change the title of the show to Global Village Does Sport.

They said the fight was poor quality and the faux respect shown afterwards was sickening. Which was true in both cases. There wasn't much boxing to talk about.

Harry Angstrom

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Coverage of the Bellew Haye fight was a joke again. The coverage was more about Joe Molloy and Kevin Kilbane being offended by what David Haye said in the build up to the fight, than it was about the fight itself. At this stage they need to change the title of the show to Global Village Does Sport.

It was funny listening to Molloy's outrage at the pre-fight trash talk of the Haye/Bellew fight until somebody reminded him of the terrible things that Ali said about Joe Frazier in the build-up to their fights in the 1970's, and Molloy trying to brush that off as just "witty" banter :rolleyes:

dastardly00

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Coverage of the Bellew Haye fight was a joke again. The coverage was more about Joe Molloy and Kevin Kilbane being offended by what David Haye said in the build up to the fight, than it was about the fight itself. At this stage they need to change the title of the show to Global Village Does Sport.

Tell me how wrote: »

They said the fight was poor quality and the faux respect shown afterwards was sickening. Which was true in both cases. There wasn't much boxing to talk about.

The Second Captains podcast yesterday (Monday 6th) took pretty much the same approach as OTB when discussing the fight also.

Lt Dan

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

It was funny listening to Molloy's outrage at the pre-fight trash talk of the Haye/Bellew fight until somebody reminded him of the terrible things that Ali said about Joe Frazier in the build-up to their fights in the 1970's, and Molloy trying to brush that off as just "witty" banter :rolleyes:

Another example of Molloy being utterly clueless on the basics , whether it is politics or sport. Moron. If he at least was consistent and knew what he was talking about and did not make such basic errors, then we could at least respect his stance. Can not take the man seriously, Simplistic tosh. Another Ray D'Arcy

For a start, Ali v Frazier was during a time of the race war and calling Frazier, a generally well respected boxer and person and one of the few to stick up for Ali when Ali was banned from boxing because of his courageous anti war stance, an "uncle tom" was not Banter. Frazier took that to his grave .A hell of a lot different to what was said before the Haye fight

Wonder what Joe might have taught back in the 1990's and now of the pre Lewis v Tyson fight (brilliant build up by the way)

LewIS
TysON

Blanco100

Whats noticeable is that now it seems to be Joe himself who is the main contributor rather than sticking to facilitating the conversation.

Its grating when you hear one of the other contributors (I think it was Dan McDonnell the other night during the Greg Cunningham interview) posing questions only to hear Joe try and interject midway through only to hear Dan ignore it and continue with his question, only for Joe to pipe up again when the question was finished to continue where he left off (after Dan rudely disallowed him from talking over him) to put his own point forward.

He is getting a little annoying. Its absolute gold when someone disagrees with him. They should pull a prank on him some evening and have everyone on the show disagree with him on something and watch his overreaction trying to justify himself. It comes across as a little immature I think.

foxtrot101

Kevin Kilbane has a daughter with Down's Syndrome and is a patron of the Down's Syndrome Association. So it is perfectly understandable that he reacts to use of the word "retard" like he did last week.

yosser hughes

foxtrot101 wrote: »

Kevin Kilbane has a daughter with Down's Syndrome and is a patron of the Down's Syndrome Association. So it is perfectly understandable that he reacts to use of the word "retard" like he did last week.

Does anyone dispute that?

foxtrot101

yosser hughes wrote: »

Does anyone dispute that?

Coverage of the Bellew Haye fight was a joke again. The coverage was more about Joe Molloy and Kevin Kilbane being offended by what David Haye said in the build up to the fight, than it was about the fight itself. At this stage they need to change the title of the show to Global Village Does Sport.

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yosser hughes

foxtrot101 wrote: »

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Fair enough,though I think the criticism is directed more at Joe.
Anyway Kevin already made his feelings clear on that previously and got a lot of publicity as a result. Did it really need to be rehashed?
There was very little discussion about the fight.

foxtrot101

yosser hughes wrote: »

Fair enough,though I think the criticism is directed more at Joe.
Anyway Kevin already made his feelings clear on that previously and got a lot of publicity as a result. Did it really need to be rehashed?
There was very little discussion about the fight.

It wasn't much of a fight.

Blanco100

yosser hughes wrote: »

Fair enough,though I think the criticism is directed more at Joe.
Anyway Kevin already made his feelings clear on that previously and got a lot of publicity as a result. Did it really need to be rehashed?
There was very little discussion about the fight.

The fight was a farce and it deserved very little coverage. They were not going to champion a very limited fighter in Tony Bellew defying the odds by taking 5 rounds to be a man who could only use one of his legs.

The fight was an absolute joke. Sky/Matchroom were going bonkers with delight because they knew they could do it all again and screw their casual boxing/football fans in the process.

Tell me how

Joe's giving out about Jonathan Pierce being too opinionated for his liking. Really emphasising it. :eek:

You wouldn't want to read this thread Joe. :cool:

Dan McDonald kinda called him on it to some extent.

I'm like "Shut it Joe" "They'll kill you on boards for this". Funny.

redbuck

He's in defensive mode again lol

Utopia Parkway

Blanco100 wrote: »

Whats noticeable is that now it seems to be Joe himself who is the main contributor rather than sticking to facilitating the conversation.

Its grating when you hear one of the other contributors (I think it was Dan McDonnell the other night during the Greg Cunningham interview) posing questions only to hear Joe try and interject midway through only to hear Dan ignore it and continue with his question, only for Joe to pipe up again when the question was finished to continue where he left off (after Dan rudely disallowed him from talking over him) to put his own point forward.

He is getting a little annoying. Its absolute gold when someone disagrees with him. They should pull a prank on him some evening and have everyone on the show disagree with him on something and watch his overreaction trying to justify himself. It comes across as a little immature I think.

Joe's ego I think has gotten a wee bit inflated this year. Maybe after winning those PPI awards but sure the radio community in Ireland is so small that most people in the industry have some kind of PPI award at home. He's become hyper sensitive to any criticism or even disagreement. Even fairly mild stuff. Been a number of examples in recent months.

Used to much prefer him to Ger Gilroy as he at least didn't ask ridiculously long winded questions but he's been almost as much of a dose as Gilroy recently.

PeterTheNinth

Tell me how wrote: »

Joe's giving out about Jonathan Pierce being too opinionated for his liking. Really emphasising it. :eek:

Yeah I found gasping a bit when he said that. He then went on to say that you would expect that from a presenter but not a commentator.

Blanco100

Joe is obsessed with money aswell, every discussion is usually tinted with reference to how much money the player can make.

He spoke about Craig Shakespeare getting the Leicester job the other night and more or less calculated the lads career chart in £££

He then swiftly moved on to Steve Walshes sunday interview in the paper and hypothesised that he could make far more money as an agent.

Big ambitions has Joe I reckon

Lt Dan

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Yeah I found gasping a bit when he said that. He then went on to say that you would expect that from a presenter but not a commentator.

None of the other lads in the room when he said that?

Jesus, I know McDevitt could be a bit jumped up when he wanted - publicly declaring that people should vote Yes to gay marriage on the eve of the election, contrary to the ban. But he could do things with humour.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Blanco100 wrote: »

Joe is obsessed with money aswell, every discussion is usually tinted with reference to how much money the player can make.

He spoke about Craig Shakespeare getting the Leicester job the other night and more or less calculated the lads career chart in £££

He then swiftly moved on to Steve Walshes sunday interview in the paper and hypothesised that he could make far more money as an agent.

Big ambitions has Joe I reckon

I'm like that too. I love knowing how much sportspeople earn.

Everyone from the main striker, to the kitman of a football club.

Lt Dan

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I'm like that too. I love knowing how much sportspeople earn.

Everyone from the main striker, to the kitman of a football club.

Wonder which club pays their tea lady more.? Which tea lady goes beyond the call of duty. Is she as good as Mrs Doyle? Where does she stand in the battle of sugars and carbs with the gaffa and would she succumb to the players pleadings for two more spoon fulls of sugar? Jaffa Cakes, the real ones or the cheaper versions?

OldMrBrennan83

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