J4/J5 Season 2012/13

AG2R

Pudsy33 wrote: »

Tough aul group for Tallaght. Gonna need to beat one of the big teams to have a chance.

Sure we thrive under the pressure

Theta

AG2R wrote: »

Sure we thrive under the pressure

Good game on Saturday, apart from the heat!

Gracelessly Tom

St Marys preseason results....

J4 - Won v Tallaght 38-7 and lost v Terenure 19-15 (both games away)
J5 - Won v Tallaght 35-14 and lost v Terenure 29-0 (both games away)

Any other pre-season results?

Theta

Clontarf J5 V Tallaght J5 Won 30 - 0
Clontarf J4 V Tallaght J4 Lost (Not sure of the score)

Pudsy33

Theta wrote: »

Clontarf J5 V Tallaght J5 Won 30 - 0
Clontarf J4 V Tallaght J4 Lost (Not sure of the score)

It was 5 tries to 3 in the j4 game, but have no idea of the actual score.

AG2R

Pudsy33 wrote: »

It was 5 tries to 3 in the j4 game, but have no idea of the actual score.

31-12 according to our website

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J4: Stillorgan 25 - 10 Seapoint

chris85

Well drilled Tallaght j4 team there was against Clontarf. Their j5 weren't great though. Clontarf j5 have Stillorgan this weekend.

dregin

Unidare J4
Unidare V Parkmore 17-10
Clondalkin V Unidare 25-3
AIB V Unidare 10-10

Pudsy33

Juat to clarify, there are two Tallaght teams. One playing j5 and one playing j3 leinster league. We have no j4 team

keano007

chris85 wrote: »

Well drilled Tallaght j4 team there was against Clontarf. Their j5 weren't great though. Clontarf j5 have Stillorgan this weekend.

Anyone know where and when this one is on?

stek1980

Millmount has a warm up charity game on Fri, 1st of the season and then RCSI on Sat 6th, looking forward to it!

chris85

keano007 wrote: »

Anyone know where and when this one is on?

Castle Avenue, 3pm.

cmdrpaddy

ColmH81 wrote: »

I don't think the section name has too much of a bearing on the level of rugby.. Looking at Section C, it's the closest league I've seen in years.. There's no games you could look at and say "we'll win that one"...

The name mightn't indicate quality but it's a bit annoying that UCD and Seapoint, two teams who dominated section B last year, are now in section C.

Bort Ort

cmdrpaddy wrote: »

The name mightn't indicate quality but it's a bit annoying that UCD and Seapoint, two teams who dominated section B last year, are now in section C.

Just looking at finishing positions from last year and would make sense to just swap the names of divisions B & C. Has anyone asked the branch about this as maybe it's a genuine mistake?

Whats happens if you win Section C this year? Are you relegated again to section D!!

Millem

keano007 wrote: »

chris85 wrote: »

Well drilled Tallaght j4 team there was against Clontarf. Their j5 weren't great though. Clontarf j5 have Stillorgan this weekend.

Anyone know where and when this one is on?

J5: Clontarf v Stillorgan called off

Peadar06

Terenure J4 vs Parkmore today at 12.30p.m.

MATCH CANCELLED. Parkmore couldn't field a team

Peter

chris85

Millem wrote: »

J5: Clontarf v Stillorgan called off

Really? Do you know the reason?

Millem

J4: Stillorgan edged out Guinness yesterday in a fiercely competitive encounter at Bird Avenue. The Stillorgan 10 knocked over a penalty (last kick of the game) to claim victory for the home side. Final score was 23-21 (I think)

ColmH81

Bort Ort wrote: »

Just looking at finishing positions from last year and would make sense to just swap the names of divisions B & C. Has anyone asked the branch about this as maybe it's a genuine mistake?

Whats happens if you win Section C this year? Are you relegated again to section D!!

I know as an ex Seapoint player, from speaking to some of the more senior players, there's a lot of confusion as to how these leagues were put together...

cmdrpaddy

ColmH81 wrote: »

I know as an ex Seapoint player, from speaking to some of the more senior players, there's a lot of confusion as to how these leagues were put together...

However they may have been put together they could look even more ridiculous in a few weeks time if the J2 league hasn't been sorted out.

There's 4 teams in section C with J2 teams who mightn't have any competitive games for a while or who will have a curtailed league season.

I foresee some particularly 'interesting' scorelines.

Gracelessly Tom

cmdrpaddy wrote: »

However they may have been put together they could look even more ridiculous in a few weeks time if the J2 league hasn't been sorted out.

There's 4 teams in section C with J2 teams who mightn't have any competitive games for a while or who will have a curtailed league season.

I foresee some particularly 'interesting' scorelines.

What's going on with the J2 league?

cmdrpaddy

Gracelessly Tom wrote: »

What's going on with the J2 league?

Three teams have withdrawn (Greystones, DLSP and Wesley I think).

I think Greystones were told to field a J2 or J3 team this year after destroying section A of the J4 league last season. They had a team in the league but then last weekends matches were postponed/cancelled after the withdrawal and there's a meeting tonight to try and sort out what's going to happen.

Like I said earlier in this thread J2 is dominated by 3 or 4 teams who are much, much better than everyone else so I can understand some of the teams not wanting anything to do with it. The issue now though is that if the J2 league is disbanded (pretty unlikely I'd imagine) or restructured it will almost certainly have fewer games giving clubs the opportunity to drop guys down and if you're already playing Saturday matches at J2 it's far easier to simply play Saturday matches at J4 than switch to Friday or Sunday matches at J3 or J1.

I hope I'm wrong but I can see clubs that have a weak J2 team or none at all getting some serious scores put on them this season.

Gracelessly Tom

cmdrpaddy wrote: »

Three teams have withdrawn (Greystones, DLSP and Wesley I think).

I think Greystones were told to field a J2 or J3 team this year after destroying section A of the J4 league last season. They had a team in the league but then last weekends matches were postponed/cancelled after the withdrawal and there's a meeting tonight to try and sort out what's going to happen.

Like I said earlier in this thread J2 is dominated by 3 or 4 teams who are much, much better than everyone else so I can understand some of the teams not wanting anything to do with it. The issue now though is that if the J2 league is disbanded (pretty unlikely I'd imagine) or restructured it will almost certainly have fewer games giving clubs the opportunity to drop guys down and if you're already playing Saturday matches at J2 it's far easier to simply play Saturday matches at J4 than switch to Friday or Sunday matches at J3 or J1.

I hope I'm wrong but I can see clubs that have a weak J2 team or none at all getting some serious scores put on them this season.

Yeah, that's a bit worrying, not only from the viewpoint of potentially making the J4 league sections very unfair but from a danger aspect as well. A J2 player on the verge of the J1's could do serious damage to a J4 beginner.

Hopefully the branch will sort it out, I know last year (or possibly the year before) the J2 league turned into a farce with only 4 teams in it.

I'd say Greystones will be put on watch after the total p1sstake they pulled in the J4 last season. Ruined the section for the other 5 teams.

Theta

Gracelessly Tom wrote: »

Yeah, that's a bit worrying, not only from the viewpoint of potentially making the J4 league sections very unfair but from a danger aspect as well. A J2 player on the verge of the J1's could do serious damage to a J4 beginner.

Hopefully the branch will sort it out, I know last year (or possibly the year before) the J2 league turned into a farce with only 4 teams in it.

I'd say Greystones will be put on watch after the total p1sstake they pulled in the J4 last season. Ruined the section for the other 5 teams.

AFAIK there was a guy on the Greystones J4 team last year who was one try shy of the AIL all time try scoring record, I think he had taken two seasons off and come back.

Gracelessly Tom

Theta wrote: »

AFAIK there was a guy on the Greystones J4 team last year who was one try shy of the AIL all time try scoring record, I think he had taken two seasons off and come back.

Wouldn't be at all surprised, they had a few guys who were clearly J1 or first team standard. One of them actually boasted to a relation of mine that they were gonna tear up the league and had loaded to win the thing. Poor form but it unfortunately happens.

cmdrpaddy

I've just read that the Branch seem to have done something with the J2 league.

The J2 and J3 teams (there are 16 J3 teams, split into two groups of 8, sec A & sec will now be combined and split into two leagues of 12 - top J3 teams will make up the numbers for the upper 12 along with the current J2 teams.

Within this group of 12, two groups of 6 will play each other once, with the top 3 in each group going into sec A, and the bottom 3 into sec B.

So it looks like all J2 teams will have games and two J3 teams have dropped out.

It seems to be a fairly decent solution.

Gracelessly Tom

Branch meeting last night and the J2 league is scraped, apparently they are splitting the J3 league and the J2 teams will drop into this league. Not sure how that effects clubs with J2 and J3 teams, can see it getting very messy.

cmdrpaddy

Gracelessly Tom wrote: »

Branch meeting last night and the J2 league is scraped, apparently they are splitting the J3 league and the J2 teams will drop into this league. Not sure how that effects clubs with J2 and J3 teams, can see it getting very messy.

I imagine it'll be the same as St. Mary's or Barnhall A and B. They won't be in the same division and won't be able to be promoted.

I wonder who the two J3 teams who dropped out are.

Gracelessly Tom

cmdrpaddy wrote: »

I imagine it'll be the same as St. Mary's or Barnhall A and B. They won't be in the same division and won't be able to be promoted.

I wonder who the two J3 teams who dropped out are.

Hopefully not anyone with teams in the J4 league!