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Kimmage seeks criminal investigation into Vebruggen/McQuaid - Mod Warning Post #1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 707 ✭✭✭Fr D Maugire


    The UCI have been unable to even track down Landis so were unable to even send him a summons to court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,505 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    RobFowl wrote: »
    Hence the "by default" bit :rolleyes:

    I was fishing for more details, like this....
    The UCI have been unable to even track down Landis so were unable to even send him a summons to court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Funkyzeit


    Gotta smile at the
    "forbids Floyd Landis to state that the Union Cycliste Internationale, Patrick (Pat) McQuaid and/or Henricus (Hein) Verbruggen .. are terrorists"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,842 ✭✭✭corny


    "are clowns":D


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,484 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    corny wrote: »
    "are clowns":D
    I would steer clear of Switzerland if I were you;)


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,672 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Beasty wrote: »
    I would steer clear of Switzerland if I were you;)

    Stop acting like Colonel Muamar Ghadafi


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,484 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    RobFowl wrote: »
    Stop acting like Colonel Muamar Ghadafi
    On a completely unrelated note, I shall be speaking to my lawyers in the morning.

    Actually, I just remembered, you cannot be prosecuted for defaming the dead...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,565 ✭✭✭thebouldwhacker


    Didn't mention anything about being elitist...... Dang.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭therewillbe


    Anyone know how to make a donation to Paul`s defense fund?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,155 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Anyone know how to make a donation to Paul`s defense fund?
    Yeah, the "chip in" thingie on this page:
    http://nyvelocity.com/content/features/2012/paul-kimmage-defense-fund


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭Lusk Doyle


    Someone should make a documentary of this epic saga when it's done. It'd be a great piece of television if done in the right light/angle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭Lazairus


    in the interests of fairness


    is there a pad mc quaid defence fund

    lol

    CH


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,672 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    Lazairus wrote: »
    in the interests of fairness


    is there a pad mc quaid defence fund

    lol

    CH

    There is




    It's your CI licence :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Undercover Elephant


    Lazairus wrote: »
    is there a pad mc quaid defence fund
    Yes, it's called the UCI treasury, and it's part-funded by the members of Cycling Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭seve65


    There is a serious point here though, if there are majority of members of Cycling Ireland not happy with McQuaids performace, can CI not register an official complaint ? Up the members !

    Of course the complaint would need to be very specific, which is perhaps where problems might arise formulating or getting majority backing.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Lazairus wrote: »
    ...pad...

    As in footpad?:D

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,484 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    seve65 wrote: »
    There is a serious point here though, if there are majority of members of Cycling Ireland not happy with McQuaids performace, can CI not register an official complaint ? Up the members !

    Of course the complaint would need to be very specific, which is perhaps where problems might arise formulating or getting majority backing.
    Clubs have until 5pm tomorrow to get resolutions to CI in time for this year's AGM.

    Of course, it's possible that a club has already submitted one (or has one lined up to go in)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,991 ✭✭✭el tel


    Beasty wrote: »
    Clubs have until 5pm tomorrow to get resolutions to CI in time for this year's AGM.

    Of course, it's possible that a club has already submitted one (or has one lined up to go in)

    Do you know if it possible to submit one as an individual or must it be via an affiliated club?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 652 ✭✭✭jimm


    Pat Kenny discussed it with Shane Stokes on his radio show this morning. Interesting piece. I'm sure you can find it on the RTE player.

    Bizarre wording in that court ruling alright!!


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,484 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    el tel wrote: »
    Do you know if it possible to submit one as an individual or must it be via an affiliated club?
    As I understand it only affiliated clubs can pre-submit resolutions. That in itself creates a logistical issue, as it would presumably need the support of the Club's committee, and the committee may also wish to canvas the opinion of it's own members before submitting a resolution like this (I guess that depends on the club's own constitution). I think, realistically, unless a club has already formulated a resolution to be submitted, there's little chance of getting something in before tromorrow's deadline


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭2 Wheels Good


    Courtesy of bikeradar :)
    In the wake of the Swiss court ruling yesterday we thought this message should be shared #UCIvsFloyd pic.twitter.com/4sSp1wPG

    A4W_laTCQAAM9yf.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Pat Kenny discussed, his words, "the most bizare court declaration from a court of law I've ever seen" with Shane Stokes this morning. It doesn't seem to be available as a stand alone podcast but starts just after 49 minutes on todays playback here.

    I had to laugh when Pat read through the declaration, the declaration reads like something from Monty Python.

    http://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/rteradiowebpage.html#rii=9%3A10058523%3A133%3A04%2D10%2D2012%3A&type=radio

    And an alternative take on phrases rejected by the judge in his decision
    http://www.cyclismas.com/2012/10/uci-reveals-words-rejected-in-judgement-against-landis/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Undercover Elephant


    Presumably the Swiss courts only have jurisdiction in Switzerland. If Landis wants to stand in the French zone of Geneva Airport and shout "McQuaid is a corrupt terrorist" across the concourse, is there anything actually stopping him?

    And if not, how can they stop him from posting this on a website?

    And if they can't, what the blue fcuk is the point of this lawsuit?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    I was thinking that myself, there's not a lot they can do outside Switzerland, surely he can continue to call them anything he wants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,833 ✭✭✭niceonetom


    223081.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭leftism


    Does anyone know when the start date for Kimmage vs. McBruggen is?

    I'm seriously thinking about setting up a facebook event page and see if we can rustle up some support for Kimmage outside the courthouse. Maybe do a critical mass cycle around the streets and stuff! This could realistically become the final epic battle in the war that anti-doping advocates have waged on the UCI. For sure, reading Rough Ride as a teenager was a major turning point for me, and i'd love to be there to shout support at Kimmage as he takes on these muppets!

    If nothing else, its a chance to go to Switzerland for a couple days and do some cycling...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,842 ✭✭✭corny


    leftism wrote: »
    Does anyone know when the start date for Kimmage vs. McBruggen is?

    No its McBruggen-UCI. Sounds like a cycling team that way!

    Think its set for December 12th if memory serves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,604 ✭✭✭petethedrummer




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭kincsem


    :) Paper can't wrap fire.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    This is the line at the bottom of the court statement that really caught my eye:

    IX. rejects any and all further findings.

    Interesting how that was buried in amongst all the other noise isn't it?


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