Kimmage seeks criminal investigation into Vebruggen/McQuaid - Mod Warning Post #1

ashleey

I think watching Mcquaid getting booed presenting medals at the UCI RR at the weekend was better!

mistermatthew

Oh dear the UCI has done it this time. Through the donations option to help Paul Kimmage the fans finally have the opportunity to show their displeasure.

This whole rotting house is about to come falling down around the UCI and they haven't got the sense to get out before it does, they're still inside shouting down everyone who tells them to get out.

This when it hits is gonna be the scandal to end all scandals in sport.

TheBlaaMan

mistermatthew wrote: »

Oh dear the UCI has done it this time. Through the donations option to help Paul Kimmage the fans finally have the opportunity to show their displeasure.

This whole rotting house is about to come falling down around the UCI and they haven't got the sense to get out before it does, they're still inside shouting down everyone who tells them to get out.

This when it hits is gonna be the scandal to end all scandals in sport.

There may only be a little distinction, but strictly speaking (as I understand it, anyhow) its not the UCI that are suing Kimmage, but rather its Verbruggen and his puppet doing so.......

One wonders at the collateral damage these guys are effectively causing the UCI itself? They are so intricately interconnected that any backlash against the duo is effectively going to be severe on the organisation..........I wonder if the management committee of the UCI is in any position to move against its current and past presidents, should things get sticky?

RobFowl

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

There may only be a little distinction, but strictly speaking (as I understand it, anyhow) its not the UCI that are suing Kimmage, but rather its Verbruggen and his puppet doing so.......

There are 3 seperate parties suing Kimmage. The UCI as well as McQuaid and Verbruggen.

buffalo

RobFowl wrote: »

There are 3 seperate parties suing Kimmage. The UCI as well as McQuaid and Verbruggen.

Really? Everywhere I've read says McQ and Verbruggen for 8,000 Swiss francs each.

RobFowl

buffalo wrote: »

Really? Everywhere I've read says McQ and Verbruggen for 8,000 Swiss francs each.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kimmage-receives-uci-subpoena

Paul Kimmage has received a subpoena from the Swiss district court that will hear the defamation proceedings instigated against him by current UCI president Pat McQuaid, his predecessor Hein Verbruggen and the UCI itself.

TheBlaaMan

I stand corrected..........a plague on all their houses, in that case.

buffalo

Janey, I'm wrong all over the place today. I hate to see my organisation being used like that.

ROK ON

I understand from reading about the case that PK is looking forward to his day in court. What I do not understand is what sanction could apply if he was to choose not to cooperate with the subpoena and appear.

The alleged defense was committed in the UK and PK lives in Ireland. One could presumably decide to wipe ones backside with the summons given that one would hardly be extradited.

In any case the ****storm building against tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber is building momentum. I cannot see McQuaid surviving this. Surely the stakeholders - teams, race organisers, sponsors are saying drop this.

Although at this stage it would be disappointing not to give PK his day in court.

Will this be televised :-)

mistermatthew

ROK ON wrote: »

In any case the ****storm building against tweedle dumb and tweedle dumber is building momentum. I cannot see McQuaid surviving this. Surely the stakeholders - teams, race organisers, sponsors are saying drop this.

Although at this stage it would be disappointing not to give PK his day in court.

Will this be televised :-)

Not to be dramatic, but if this is televised I hope it goes down something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrdFFCnYtbk

With mr. Kimmage playing the role of Galloway.

kincsem

I would like to see thousands of cyclists with their bikes cheer Paul Kimmage into the court.

Funkyzeit

This is nothing if not entertaining:
Check out Kimmage's latest tweets:

Paul Kimmage ‏@PaulKimmage
David, good news, found a real pitbull of a lawyer to go after those two ****ers.

Paul Kimmage ‏@PaulKimmage
Ooops, sorry that was supposed to be a private message to @DavidWalshST

Malari

Then Toby Moody:

@PaulKimmage: Never in writing. Phone.

:pac:

Undercover Elephant

Funkyzeit wrote: »

Paul Kimmage ‏@PaulKimmage
Ooops, sorry that was supposed to be a private message to @DavidWalshST

Ooops, I accidentally on purpose told the world and his wife that I'm spoiling for a fight. Silly, silly me.

(If he has found a pitbull, he might want a rethink for a case like this. OTOH, if he's found a Swiss media lawyer well practised in the subtle arts, then this is fiendishly clever.)

TheBlaaMan

His tweets this afternoon have been a bit strange, TBH. It comes across a bit childish to be slagging off his adversaries on social media, esp as they are unlikely to bother reading it, so its for our attention, really.He might be better advised to rise above it, tempting (and entertaining) as it is.

Maybe he is just having a bit of fun getting this off his chest in public?

buffalo

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

His tweets this afternoon have been a bit strange, TBH. It comes across a bit childish to be slagging off his adversaries on social media, esp as they are unlikely to bother reading it, so its for our attention, really.He might be better advised to rise above it, tempting (and entertaining) as it is.

Maybe he is just having a bit of fun getting this off his chest in public?

Perhaps his ego has been boosted a step too far by the defence fund? Or is this publicity to draw more attention to his cause?

ThisRegard

In all of this ridiculous episode, Paul Kimmage is the last person I'd be calling childish. He has no problem saying these things on radio etc so I don't think he'd be too worried if his tweet really was accidental.

Beasty

kincsem wrote: »

I would like to see thousands of cyclists with their bikes cheer Paul Kimmage into the court.

So are you going to start an appeal for funds to send a Boards.ie Cycling Forum delegation over (obviously only Sports Cyclists, and not Commuters invited)?

Maybe we can get Kimmage to chip-in...:D

honkjelly

Hope he gets enough to hire Johnnie Cochran

Slo_Rida

Hopefully this case goes ahead...the more publicity for PK the better. He's one of our own.
Can we put forward a motion to make Paul Kimmage UCI president? Seems like the ultimate (and obvious) solution to all these issues.

12 sprocket

slo rida, you might have missed it but Mc Quaid is one of our own too represented ireland at the very top level, good professional rider and brought the best cyclists in the world to Ireland to be viewed by the Irish public and promote cycling... I presume you are talking about Paul being Irish?
Sad to see them at odds.

witty username

12 sprocket wrote: »

... but Mc Quaid is one of our own too...

Maybe he means PK is one of our own in the sense that he's not a shytebag, unlike Paddy mack (for reasons why, please see posts above by others).

Plus, since McQuaid is sueing PK under Swiss law I now view him as one of those cuckoo clock wielding, toblerone-eating clowns.

And yes, I've chipped in and hope dearly that PK will tear Pinky and the Brain a new one each.

fishfoodie

honkjelly wrote: »

Hope he gets enough to hire Johnnie Cochran

I'm not sure if the fund will get big enough to hire both a lawyer & a necromancer

happytramp

fishfoodie wrote: »

I'm not sure if the fund will get big enough to hire both a lawyer & a necromancer

I may be able to help. I used to be a level 17 Necromancer in advanced D+D.

RobFowl

happytramp wrote: »

I used to be a level 17 Necromancer in advanced D+D.

I'm sure the women were fallling over themselves

buffalo

http://www.atwistedspoke.com/raleigh-to-introduce-kimmage-road-bike/

Irish bicycle company Raleigh plans to launch a Kimmage road bike for the Spring of 2013.

...Raleigh has rushed development so production model Rough Riders are available for Kimmage and his legal team to ride to his trial.

“Paul wants to do it, I mean how cool would that be, showing up with $50,000 grand in your pocket and your legal team on Kimmage bikes?” said Fakely. “McQuaid would **** his pants.”

Fantastic!

RobFowl

The result of the action taken against Landis (almost identical to the one against PK) was released. They found in favour of McQuaid/Verbruggen by default...

Quoted verbattim ....

forbids Floyd Landis to state that the Union Cycliste Internationale, Patrick (Pat)
McQuaid and/or Henricus (Hein) Verbruggen have concealed cases of doping, received
money for doing so, have accepted money from Lance Armstrong to conceal a doping
case, have protected certain racing cyclists, concealed cases of doping, have engaged in
manipulation, particularly of tests and races, have hesitated and delayed publishing the
results of a positive test on Alberto Contador, have accepted bribes, are corrupt, are
terrorists, have no regard for the rules, load the dice, are fools, do not have a genuine
desire to restore discipline to cycling, are full of sh*t, are clowns, their words are
worthless, are liars, are no different to Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, or to make any
similar other allegations of that kind;


So there you go....

Lumen

RobFowl wrote: »

The result of the action taken against Landis (almost identical to the one against PK) was released. They found in favour of McQuaid/Verbruggen by default

...because Landis didn't appear to contest it, presumably?

Undercover Elephant

Lumen wrote: »

...because Landis didn't appear to contest it, presumably?

Must be guilty, then.

RobFowl

Lumen wrote: »

...because Landis didn't appear to contest it, presumably?

Hence the "by default" bit :rolleyes: