[Eve] So i started EVE

Dohnny Jepp

longwhitecross+ wrote: »

Havn't really experienced much of it outside mission running which is boring as hell, tough to find decent people to play with.


I hear you arnt really playing untill your living in nullsec..

Just go on the eveonline forums, go to the recruitment section and look through some of the posts.

Look for a corporation;
-that's in a nulsec alliance,
-that are EU time zone (or american timezone if you prefer to play late into the night)
-that state they will train players with no pvp experience to pvp.

Within a few roams/gate camps/fleets you'll have a solid grasp on what to do and you can start enjoying eve because eve really is all about pvp!!

Noxin

Thread hijack.

So I just started Eve myself. First time proper playing bar a few days (many a moon a go) before.

Enjoying it so far. Thus far I've:

Completed initial tutorial.
Complete 9 of 10 in the Industry tutorial. (the next part requires some mats that make me go into low sec zones where there are usually pirates that tear me a new one). Sure I could check the market for them but I have feck all cash so I'm saving while I do the other tutorials.

Now sitting about 3/4 way through the Business tutorial. This one has been a little boring. Mostly just courier work with a few very easy pirates thrown in. But hey, extra cash / equip / ships are worth it to me while I'm learning the system.

I'll probably hit a combat tutorial after this to learn what I am hoping will be the finer aspects of fighting. Thus far I just kind of race forward with whatever guns I have blaring in the hope I don't die first

One thing I really like about this game is the real time skill training. Set something training that'll a day or two but while actually in game, if there is something I want to learn with a quick learning time, I can just throw that in front of the queue and place the other on hold.

Anyway, I'm sure there is still plenty for me to do. Now.. where is my rust bucket so I can continue..

ShadowHearth

Noxin wrote: »

Thread hijack.

So I just started Eve myself. First time proper playing bar a few days (many a moon a go) before.

Enjoying it so far. Thus far I've:

Completed initial tutorial.
Complete 9 of 10 in the Industry tutorial. (the next part requires some mats that make me go into low sec zones where there are usually pirates that tear me a new one). Sure I could check the market for them but I have feck all cash so I'm saving while I do the other tutorials.

Now sitting about 3/4 way through the Business tutorial. This one has been a little boring. Mostly just courier work with a few very easy pirates thrown in. But hey, extra cash / equip / ships are worth it to me while I'm learning the system.

I'll probably hit a combat tutorial after this to learn what I am hoping will be the finer aspects of fighting. Thus far I just kind of race forward with whatever guns I have blaring in the hope I don't die first

One thing I really like about this game is the real time skill training. Set something training that'll a day or two but while actually in game, if there is something I want to learn with a quick learning time, I can just throw that in front of the queue and place the other on hold.

Anyway, I'm sure there is still plenty for me to do. Now.. where is my rust bucket so I can continue..

welcome to no life side m8. did you though already what will your alt do?

The noob tutorial missions dont send you in to low sec, its just an area with rats just for tutorial. read discription, it might be that you can buy materials to finish it. When you will do all the tutorial missions, you then have to decide what you want to do.
I am really happy to see you enjoying this game, but i have to warn you. Its not like any other mmorpg, which feeds content to you with shovels, making the treadmills just to justify you being there. This is a sandbox game, which means, you can do whatever you want and you make your own content. some wow/everquest people get lost in such sandbox game and then moan, that there is no content.
All game is run by player market. So your "end game" will be the goal you will decide. Keep in mind, that in game like this combat is not the only way progress. Some people combat the other people on market. others doing hauling contracts, some people like mining or manufacturing.

After you are done with tutorial, decide what you want to do and focus that route. if you dont like it, you can always go other root. the skill you learned already wont be gone. Then join a corporation, which is focused the route you want to go.

as for skill training: i love this system too. Even if you dont log in for the whole day, you know that your pilot still progress. This system has a downsides too. for example my main account is training for hulk/mackinow. It take new pilot to train 40 days to be able to fly it. i have 12 more days to go. so yeah.... it takes time lol

azezil

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Well so my drake is doing all right I'm missions 3, but feck I get annoyed by frigates now. Little ****s are harder to kill then big ships... I tried target painter, but it's useless. Just before I logged off I got myself a web. I'll try it tomorrow.

Your drake has capacity for 5 small drones, take the agro on the drake before deploying drones, once you have agro launch your drones on the frigs while you go kill the bigger ships. Simples ^_^

Also level 4s are quite doable in a drake, just takes ages.

Noxin

ShadowHearth wrote: »

welcome to no life side m8. did you though already what will your alt do?

The noob tutorial missions dont send you in to low sec, its just an area with rats just for tutorial. read discription, it might be that you can buy materials to finish it. When you will do all the tutorial missions, you then have to decide what you want to do.
I am really happy to see you enjoying this game, but i have to warn you. Its not like any other mmorpg, which feeds content to you with shovels, making the treadmills just to justify you being there. This is a sandbox game, which means, you can do whatever you want and you make your own content. some wow/everquest people get lost in such sandbox game and then moan, that there is no content.
All game is run by player market. So your "end game" will be the goal you will decide. Keep in mind, that in game like this combat is not the only way progress. Some people combat the other people on market. others doing hauling contracts, some people like mining or manufacturing.

After you are done with tutorial, decide what you want to do and focus that route. if you dont like it, you can always go other root. the skill you learned already wont be gone. Then join a corporation, which is focused the route you want to go.

as for skill training: i love this system too. Even if you dont log in for the whole day, you know that your pilot still progress. This system has a downsides too. for example my main account is training for hulk/mackinow. It take new pilot to train 40 days to be able to fly it. i have 12 more days to go. so yeah.... it takes time lol

RE: Skills. To be honest, that is what I like. I knew straight away from looking at the system that later skills will take forever and a day to complete. But it makes it more "real" if you get my drift.
I started this looking for a game that does not require me to be hands on 24x7 and this is what I am hoping for. If I want to set an action going and do something else, I can. I still play wow too and Eve is not that taxing on my system so I can always run both if I am looking for something to do while Eve is busy doing something that will take a while.
So right now I've done the business tutorial (again up to the last missing because it wants an ore that I will need to buy off the market or upgrade to a better ship to take on the pirates guarding the asteroids containing said ore.
I've also done most of the exploration tutorial. Took me a while to get the hang of probe scanning but I think I have it down now. Got a bit frustrated in the beginning :pac:
Next up: I need to be able to take on pirates so military it is.

Still very much enjoying it. Obviously not playing constantly but it is nice to know that my character is still "learning" even when I'm not there.

Speaking of which, he should be finished his first long ish training of a day and a half. Time to go learn more

ShadowHearth

Noxin wrote: »

RE: Skills. To be honest, that is what I like. I knew straight away from looking at the system that later skills will take forever and a day to complete. But it makes it more "real" if you get my drift.
I started this looking for a game that does not require me to be hands on 24x7 and this is what I am hoping for. If I want to set an action going and do something else, I can. I still play wow too and Eve is not that taxing on my system so I can always run both if I am looking for something to do while Eve is busy doing something that will take a while.
So right now I've done the business tutorial (again up to the last missing because it wants an ore that I will need to buy off the market or upgrade to a better ship to take on the pirates guarding the asteroids containing said ore.
I've also done most of the exploration tutorial. Took me a while to get the hang of probe scanning but I think I have it down now. Got a bit frustrated in the beginning :pac:
Next up: I need to be able to take on pirates so military it is.

Still very much enjoying it. Obviously not playing constantly but it is nice to know that my character is still "learning" even when I'm not there.

Speaking of which, he should be finished his first long ish training of a day and a half. Time to go learn more

hmmmm i was doing those tutorials already on 2 accounts and i never had problems... i am quite surprised you got isk problem, because i always finish tutorials and got like 1mil++ isk in pocket. keep in mind you get on mission 2 a better ship. All in all the stuff provided is more then enough to complete all the tutorials.

Noxin

ShadowHearth wrote: »

hmmmm i was doing those tutorials already on 2 accounts and i never had problems... i am quite surprised you got isk problem, because i always finish tutorials and got like 1mil++ isk in pocket. keep in mind you get on mission 2 a better ship. All in all the stuff provided is more then enough to complete all the tutorials.

Ahh I don't really have ISK problems. I'm just a cheapo and like to farm my stuff. But to get the tutorials out of the way, I'll probably just end up buying the materials I need

ShadowHearth

Noxin wrote: »

Ahh I don't really have ISK problems. I'm just a cheapo and like to farm my stuff. But to get the tutorials out of the way, I'll probably just end up buying the materials I need

well, later on you wont have problems at all with money m8. i am 30days +++ old account and i got 1.2bill in cash alone plus ships, some implants for 2 accounts. all this from 1 account, because second account is pure money sink atm.

platinums

Noxin wrote: »

I've also done most of the exploration tutorial. Took me a while to get the hang of probe scanning but I think I have it down now.

Next you should try sone Ninja Salvaging. For fun, people generally dont approve of it, it is more of a Pirate Trait.

Basically you equip Combat Scanner I think, look up a system with Level 4/5 missions. Go to the system and scan out with the COmbat scanners, the active ships.
When you scan them book mark them and scan a few more, then get a fast loot ship and jump in to the previously scanned bookmarks at 100 to be safe, you should see either, a ship in combat with NPC's or loads of salvageable vehicles, yours for the taking.
If the former, leave as its cheeky to salvage anothers conquests in front of their eyes. Although you dont have to and its interesting to see what the player does when you start the salvage

I did this as a scanning exercise which was a lot of fun.

ShadowHearth

So little update: ( if anyone even interested in my noob life )

My main char is 10days away from flying mackinaw/hulk. It's still going to be main income horse so no changes there.
My alt will be finishing retriever training tomorrow. So he will be able to give a hand hauling/mining to my main account on down time.
me having 1.4bil already I decided its time to take my finger out and make more focus on my alt. I found out that little mining corp is a part of bigger alliance and that we got a mercenary corp too. I got taken there because the corp leader of mining corp is a leader of Merc corp too.
So I got a lot of new info today on corp wars, spies, war targets, scouts etc. Now I am focused to train some basic skills to fly merlin with 150mm rail guns fit and start proper pvp practising . Currently corp is im war with 3 other corps and in 12h with one more. Looks like I will have my hands full

R0ot

ShadowHearth wrote: »

So little update: ( if anyone even interested in my noob life )

My main char is 10days away from flying mackinaw/hulk. It's still going to be main income horse so no changes there.
My alt will be finishing retriever training tomorrow. So he will be able to give a hand hauling/mining to my main account on down time.
me having 1.4bil already I decided its time to take my finger out and make more focus on my alt. I found out that little mining corp is a part of bigger alliance and that we got a mercenary corp too. I got taken there because the corp leader of mining corp is a leader of Merc corp too.
So I got a lot of new info today on corp wars, spies, war targets, scouts etc. Now I am focused to train some basic skills to fly merlin with 150mm rail guns fit and start proper pvp practising . Currently corp is im war with 3 other corps and in 12h with one more. Looks like I will have my hands full

Man I knew mining was profitable but didn't know it was THAT profitable.

Well done so far mate, 1.4bil at this stage is a great start.

BigEejit

I don't get it? what/where are you mining? If you are still in safe space then fair play to you, you must have a very high boredom threshold :P

How much do plex cost these days?

R0ot

BigEejit wrote: »

I don't get it? what/where are you mining? If you are still in safe space then fair play to you, you must have a very high boredom threshold :P

How much do plex cost these days?

Around 580mil

ShadowHearth

BigEejit wrote: »

I don't get it? what/where are you mining? If you are still in safe space then fair play to you, you must have a very high boredom threshold :P

How much do plex cost these days?

i am in high sec. 0.6

Mining mainly veldsper and scordite.

it is really easy with 3 monitors. i just drop my ship to mine, then dock and mine again, while having my main monitor with alt and with a good movie on third monitor. so mining does not became a boring thing. fantastic income. i got already around 100mil worth of ore again, so ill push it again and make it 200mil and then flag it off.

D

Wait wait, do you mean you mine to your cargo hold, dock, then go back out and mine again? DOn't you mine to a container then get a ship to pick it up? I'm not a miner but I thought that that was the best way to do it.

ShadowHearth

D wrote: »

Wait wait, do you mean you mine to your cargo hold, dock, then go back out and mine again? DOn't you mine to a container then get a ship to pick it up? I'm not a miner but I thought that that was the best way to do it.

not really. retriever and mackinow is a bread and butter at solo, semi afk mining.

per cycle i can do 3000 m3 in retriever, which has 27k m3 cargo, wheres covetor with same skills is only 3.4k m3 per cycle and got only 7k m3 cargo. So its not worth it at all to do can thing. so much more clicks and messing with a chance of getting a "dick" can flip you. sometimes you can get 100k veldsper asteroids, which means 2 of those will fill up all your cargo, with 2 clicks.
Like i said its a beauty of 3 monitors. i can do what ever i want while mining. i play borderlands 2, alt EVE, diablo, wow, while still having a screen with mining ship.
As you can see my earning for doing minimal work and zero risk are very nice. Mining is OP as ****, though very boring with 1 account and one screen.

R0ot

D wrote: »

Wait wait, do you mean you mine to your cargo hold, dock, then go back out and mine again? DOn't you mine to a container then get a ship to pick it up? I'm not a miner but I thought that that was the best way to do it.

They buffed all the barges.

ShadowHearth

i fecking hate eve now...

there are so many options, so many ways, so many fittings, ships, wepons, tactics ffs.

its like having a whole red light district open only for you and you have only 1 Cock! :mad:


i am training in to missile launchers, but for PVP i dont want to use drake just yet. i want some frigate or cruiser. ( cheap and cheerfull to learn how to pvp ), but i was told missile/rocket frigates are not great.
So i am between training for missiles or droping it and train properly for merlin... maybe even switch in to some other frigate...
i wish expansion would come out sooner so i could see new caldari missile destroyer

Noxin

Just an update that I am still here.

I just took up the cheapo offer and subbed for my first month for a tenner.

As for what I'm doing in game: I still have no clue really :pac:

I have no idea what area (if any) I want to specialise in so my skill points are kinda all over the place.
On that note, while I still sit and decide I just went mining. Got myself a Bantam and free Sigil so went jetcan mining. Very easy to do when you have other things to do around the house or are starting a new Skyrim game.
I also decided to try out a bit more PVE so finished off the advanced military training missions. Everything was going fine until the last mission. Got myself a Coercer, kitted out with four medium range lasers and pew pewed the two adds down. Then what happened? Disconnection.. Luckily I managed to log back in before being destroyed and took out the main npc.
Combat is still a little weird for me but I'm getting better at it after finally figuring out the shortcut keys and not having to right click everything all the time like an idiot.
Crafting is a mystery to me so I'll need to look more into that. I went looking for ship blueprints but couldn't find anything on the market.. got confused and decided to leave it for the time being

I've not joined a corp yet.. No real reason for not joining. Just not got around to it. I've always been more of a solo player in games but I know Eve is very corp based. I'll probably join sooner or later.

Anyway, still enjoying it. No minted with ISK or anything (about 4mill) but I have a sheeeit load of ore in the hanger so could easily add plenty more if I wished. Kinda still trying to get the hang of the market too. When I search something I see the seller and buyer section. What I keep getting confused at is seeing in the buyer section. Someone has posted something. Does that mean they are looking to buy this item or they are selling this item? Cause I double click what is listed and it gives me an option to buy.. And it's usually alot cheaper than items in the seller section that also give me the option to buy. Confused Maybe I should just try to click it and see what happens

Random rant / update over. Just waiting on the server to come back online. :pac:

azezil

I was surprised the hulk didn't get a bigger ore hold seeing as it's the most efficient mining vessel, but I just whipped out my mackinaw instead and let her mine away as I do other stuff.

Not The Real Scarecrow

Only about 2 days in and still doing the career agent missions. Have to admit I'm loving it so far.Even though alot of the menial tasks should be boring ,I'm really enjoying the learning aspect to it. Have had a few random players check in on me in private chat and offer assistance,which really surprised me.From my limited time in game I'm blown away by the community.
Hopefully things will keep going the way they are and I'll no doubt start up a monthly subscription.Taking the day off so I can get a bit more into it....I have a feeling that Eve could be my undoing.Haven't been this psyched about a game in a very long time.

ShadowHearth

Welcome to no life m8. Just say goodbye to all games you played before.

Best deal is a 90day deal, which costs like 2 month. I would recommend that one, as it will take pressure of you to get the most out of your sub. You will be more relaxed and won't push yourself, just because you payed for it. 90 days is a sweet spot.

As for my progress:

I am still playing it! A bit less then 24h from flying mackinaw on my main! I was slacking a bit and spent some isk. So I still around 1.4bill I'm cash, but I got a 352mil contract to be taken in next few days and I got 30mil++ of ore again.
My alt is all out training in to missiles. Plus I am training basic skills needed for fittings etc. getting ready for expansion and that lovely lovely lovely caldari destroyer!!! It want to make it my pvp boat. Should be cheap enough to recycle it too.

azezil

ShadowHearth wrote: »

i am in high sec. 0.6

Mining mainly veldsper and scordite.

it is really easy with 3 monitors. i just drop my ship to mine, then dock and mine again, while having my main monitor with alt and with a good movie on third monitor. so mining does not became a boring thing. fantastic income. i got already around 100mil worth of ore again, so ill push it again and make it 200mil and then flag it off.

How long does it take you to gather 100mil worth of ore and where are you selling it?

Judging purely on the estimated value in my ore hold* I'm taking in aprox 6.2mil for azure plagioclase but just about 5mil for regular scordite and veldspar per full hold (35k ore).

I'm no mathematician but that looks like a hellovalot of time to spend mining.



*perhaps if I sold the ore on the market I could make more

ShadowHearth

azezil wrote: »

How long does it take you to gather 100mil worth of ore and where are you selling it?

Judging purely on the estimated value in my ore hold* I'm taking in aprox 6.2mil for azure plagioclase but just about 5mil for regular scordite and veldspar per full hold (35k ore).

I'm no mathematician but that looks like a hellovalot of time to spend mining.



*perhaps if I sold the ore on the market I could make more

i never counted how long, because i mostly do other stuff while mining. If i do something proper in EVe i do it on alt. For example i got movie up. mining on alt and doing missions for Caldari navi so i can use locator agents when i rejoin our pvp corp.

I sell all ore to our CEO, which buys it for a very damn good price. i got 1.5bill in cash now only, but i got 360mil contract for grabs and i already got almost 100mil worth of ore mined. i had a lot of spending with macky trained up and fitting it out.

basicly i get 700k isk per 3 mins ( per cycle ) in macky. add some traveling costs and you will know how long does it take to get 100mil, but keep in mind i do it half afk type way.

azezil

Ah you're selling it to your corp, well that explains that then

ShadowHearth

azezil wrote: »

Ah you're selling it to your corp, well that explains that then

Well it does saves me on hauling and the hassle of it, but with red frog services its cheap as chips.
Ore worth of 1 bill to transport 22 jumps to jita is less then 10mil...

Anyway, can't wait for expansion. Working on my missiles and shields skills on alf so I can jump in to new destroyer

Freddy Smelly

i let all my subs run out... Eve online has gotten crap lately. the current sov grind is just not worth the hassle anymore... ccp nerfed the crap out of 0.0 and it's so hard make decent isk in between all the cta's anymore.

L4's in high sec pays out rubbish too, incursions were a great money spinner until ccp nerfed that too. and now they gone and nerfed faction warfare too.

ShadowHearth

Freddy Smelly wrote: »

i let all my subs run out... Eve online has gotten crap lately. the current sov grind is just not worth the hassle anymore... ccp nerfed the crap out of 0.0 and it's so hard make decent isk in between all the cta's anymore.

L4's in high sec pays out rubbish too, incursions were a great money spinner until ccp nerfed that too. and now they gone and nerfed faction warfare too.

Well I haven't been in null sec yet. I did reached 2bill+ milestone today though. High sec is OP as ****. I think I got enough to afford to lose a few of those new sexy caldari destroyers in Merc wars
Still working on my caldari navi standing when I have time, so I can use finder agents as a Merc. I think I am 4.26 atm so still a bit to go.

I haven't played much lately as I have waaaaaaaay to many games bought recently. Dark souls, spec ops the line takes all my time.

VenomIreland

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Well I haven't been in null sec yet. I did reached 2bill+ milestone today though. High sec is OP as ****. I think I got enough to afford to lose a few of those new sexy caldari destroyers in Merc wars
Still working on my caldari navi standing when I have time, so I can use finder agents as a Merc. I think I am 4.26 atm so still a bit to go.

I haven't played much lately as I have waaaaaaaay to many games bought recently. Dark souls, spec ops the line takes all my time.

2 billion!? From mining!? I think it's time I started a mining alt, I've been doing arbitrage for the past while but I've nowhere near as much money as you!

ShadowHearth

VenomIreland wrote: »

2 billion!? From mining!? I think it's time I started a mining alt, I've been doing arbitrage for the past while but I've nowhere near as much money as you!

well i am 2bill 30mil atm. Got 140mill in ore too to be sold, but i am keeping it untill i reach 200-300mil. i bough some tasty stuff for my drake on alt, and yes, alt is still a fecking money pit, but i like it :P. getting ready for expansion.

i am really really slacking lately. got dark souls and i just completely consumed by it. nt mining as much as i used too.

its quite scary, but i am thinking of a third account as a scout, when i am back to pvp next month. i think i might have just trial accounts for that