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50 shades of grey-Why so popular?

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    #92
    whatdoicare
    Registered Users Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    Millicent wrote: »
    whatdoicare wrote: »
    The point I made was I and others bought the books because they were on sale and we're in a recession so, obviously, money is not spent as freely as before.
    But sure maybe I should waste what little money I have to avoid your judgement.

    I don't think the other poster was trying to put you down and was more saying that marketing people work hard to make people buy products. You buy the books because of the marketing (special offers, lower price point, points back etc.) so the marketing does what it is designed to do.

    Seemed to me like they were. The delivery and lack of elaboration would indicate this.


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    #93
    coffee_cake
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    whatdoicare wrote: »
    So the point you're making is that you have more spending money than me and that this somehow makes you better than me, does it?

    I have absolutely no idea how you got this from that post. They clearly were saying that the advertising did its job on you.

    :confused:


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    #94
    whatdoicare
    Registered Users Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    bluewolf wrote: »
    whatdoicare wrote: »
    So the point you're making is that you have more spending money than me and that this somehow makes you better than me, does it?

    I have absolutely no idea how you got this from that post. They clearly were saying that the advertising did its job on you.

    :confused:
    So what is the bottom line? Advertising did their job- and that means what?


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    #95
    riveratom
    Registered Users Posts: 964 ✭✭✭riveratom


    whatdoicare wrote: »
    So the point you're making is that you have more spending money than me and that this somehow makes you better than me, does it?

    Whaaaat?!!?

    No idea where that came from, as the guys said I was just making the observation that the marketing is doing its job!


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    #96
    whatdoicare
    Registered Users Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    riveratom wrote: »
    Whaaaat?!!?

    No idea where that came from, as the guys said I was just making the observation that the marketing is doing its job!

    Well, you went out of your way to quote me and write it - what exactly were you trying to imply?


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    #97
    riveratom
    Registered Users Posts: 964 ✭✭✭riveratom


    whatdoicare wrote: »
    Well, you went out of your way to quote me and write it - what exactly were you trying to imply?

    You're reading something that isn't there and probably need to take things at face value instead of looking to be offended ;)


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    #98
    whatdoicare
    Registered Users Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    riveratom wrote: »
    You're reading something that isn't there and probably need to take things at face value instead of looking to be offended ;)

    Fine, I'll leave it at that - clarify yourself before you make bold statements in future, might prevent insulting people in future. :mad:


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    #99
    riveratom
    Registered Users Posts: 964 ✭✭✭riveratom


    whatdoicare wrote: »
    Fine, I'll leave it at that - clarify yourself before you make bold statements in future, might prevent insulting people in future. :mad:

    Well, I don't need to. And my statement wasn't bold. Or insulting. That's the thing, it wasn't a bold statement and it wasn't insulting - just like the other posters pointed out as well.


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    #100
    whatdoicare
    Registered Users Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    riveratom wrote: »
    That's the thing, it wasn't a bold statement - as the other guys pointed out as well.

    What was it so? Looked to me like you were implying there's something wrong with buying off the sale table. What exactly were you implying? Looked a bit silly to be quoting me specifically if you were only making an observation - you could have just written that without quoting anyone.


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    #101
    riveratom
    Registered Users Posts: 964 ✭✭✭riveratom


    whatdoicare wrote: »
    What was it so? Looked to me like you were implying there's something wrong with buying off the sale table. What exactly were you implying? Looked a bit silly to be quoting me specifically if you were only making an observation - you could have just written that without quoting anyone.

    See, you're the only one who thought I was implying anything. The other guys could see that this was not the case at all, and they were reading the same thing. You chose to be offended, even when everyone else could see there was nothing more to the statement than what I wrote. 'Looked to me' is the key part of your sentence there.

    My statement was simply that the power of marketing has lead millions of women all over the world to purchase that book. You are one of those women. That is all.


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    #102
    whatdoicare
    Registered Users Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    riveratom wrote: »
    See, you're the only one who thought I was implying anything. The other guys could see that this was not the case at all, and they were reading the same thing. You chose to be offended, even when everyone else could see there was nothing more to the statement than what I wrote. 'Looked to me' is the key part of your sentence there.

    It was me you quoted, not anyone else.


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    #103
    riveratom
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    whatdoicare wrote: »
    It was me you quoted, not anyone else.

    I didn't realise there were rules around that ;)


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    #104
    Monty Burnz
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    whatdoicare wrote: »
    But sure maybe I should waste what little money I have to avoid your judgement.
    So to save money, you bought some heavily marketed new books instead of getting - oh I don't know - some good books for even less in Oxfam or something? You are being awfully defensive about this.


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    #105
    peewee_44
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    I have to say I was totally sucked in with all the hype but so glad I was, loved all 3 books esp book 2 Darker


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    #106
    Gina101
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    I am in the proccess of actually reading the second book , 50 Shades of Darker. I enjoy reading through it, I like it. I wouldnt say I am addicted!
    If you like dominant men, who tell you what to do, are extremely controlling and even a bit violent, then yes, you will like this book.
    Feel a bit ripped off though, brought it from HMV for £6, then Tescos was selling 2 for £7, bugger!:pac:


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    #107
    panda100
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    Best review of fifty shades I've read so far.........http://redlemonade.blogspot.ie/2012/06/fifty-shades-of-tedious-****ery-vol-1.html


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    #108
    Erper
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    its only popular between women..
    its something that woman wrote how would she feel, how did she feel and what she is missing...
    thats why its 3 book...
    but this could turn out bad if you are single...
    that could put your hopes down as you would always expect something perfect or something that you've dreamt of but in reality nothing is like in the book...


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    #109
    LittleBook
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    Erper wrote: »
    but in reality nothing is like in the book...

    Thank fook! :pac:


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    #110
    kylith
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    My MiL said she read them on a recommendation. She wasn't too vocal in either commending or condemming them. She did say that she started to skip the sexy bits because they were repetetive and boring. She also says that she only read the third on because "I'd started, so I may as well finish".


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    #111
    Grolschevik
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    Neyite wrote: »
    I have noticed that a lot of the friends that think it was brilliant dont read a lot of books generally anyway.

    I have absolutely no evidence for this, but I would suspect that a large proportion of the 40 million (was it?) buyers aren't very regular readers.

    If it could turn a few million non-readers into even occasional readers, that'd be a good think, I reckon. But no doubt I'm overestimating the likelihood of this happening.


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    #112
    princess3901
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    I have read the trilogy, I really liked book 1 and 2, couldnt put them down. Book 3 wasnt dying on it to be honest, took a lot longer to read.


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    #113
    panda100
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    princess3901 wrote: »
    I have read the trilogy, I really liked book 1 and 2, couldnt put them down. Book 3 wasnt dying on it to be honest, took a lot longer to read.

    By the third book is he still asking her what she's eaten every two seconds?


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    #114
    princess3901
    Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭princess3901


    Yeah he is, Even though I loved boook 1 and 2, give me a Jackie Collins, Tasmina Perry or Tilly Bagshawe anyday.

    Actually I have started reading Killer Heels by Rebecca Chance and one of the characters in the book is a submissive also. Good read so far.


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    #115
    iguana
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    panda100 wrote: »
    I do think the basic storyline is an interesting one,and you do want to find out why Christian has turned out the way he has.

    What does this mean? Isn't he just someone who enjoys BDSM, like many, many millions of people do. Afaik BDSM is pretty much the most common kink in the world and I doubt that the majority of people who are into it have turned out that way for any reason more compelling than why some people prefer cats to dogs.

    Is practising BDSM some sort of terrible side-effect of past trauma in the FSoG universe? Because if it is then it's pretty insulting to anyone who's into it, which includes pretty much every single person who reads the book.:confused:


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    #116
    MrTsSnickers
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    iguana wrote: »
    Is practising BDSM some sort of terrible side-effect of past trauma in the FSoG universe? Because if it is then it's pretty insulting to anyone who's into it, which includes pretty much every single person who reads the book.:confused:

    That's the way he's portrayed in the books, that he's had such a traumatic past, the only viable option was BDSM. No, he had a sh**ty past and abusive relationships seem to be a symptom of that. If it were a book (or 3) about a troubled guy who got into relationships, in which he was abusive and looked for someone that could be easily manipulated, that would've been more accurate, but likely less "sexy".

    As an aside, I feel like a dumbass because I'd to think for a minute to figure out what FSoG meant..ugh..


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    #117
    Giselle
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    MrTsSnickers wrote: »

    As an aside, I feel like a dumbass because I'd to think for a minute to figure out what FSoG meant..ugh..

    If that makes you feel like a dumbass, imagine how I feel.

    I had to google it.:(


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    #118
    _petulia_
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    I read half of the first book and had to give up. I really don't get why it's so popular. I could write better myself and have read better online for free. I put it down to repressed housewives.

    It has no redeeming qualities whatsoever- the plot is awful, the characters (especially Anastasia) are one dimensional ... I don't get it. It's a sad indictment of literature today that the woman who wrote it is earning a million a week.


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    #119
    coffee_cake
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    iguana wrote: »
    What does this mean? Isn't he just someone who enjoys BDSM, like many, many millions of people do. Afaik BDSM is pretty much the most common kink in the world and I doubt that the majority of people who are into it have turned out that way for any reason more compelling than why some people prefer cats to dogs.

    Is practising BDSM some sort of terrible side-effect of past trauma in the FSoG universe? Because if it is then it's pretty insulting to anyone who's into it, which includes pretty much every single person who reads the book.:confused:

    Yes, that's infuriating thing #3525235236 about the book. You're only into BDSM if you're traumatised, and
    once your "issues" are finally resolved you'll put away all your BDSM inclinations and turn vanilla and "normal" forever after.


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    #120
    IzzyWizzy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭IzzyWizzy


    Nina_G wrote: »
    I read half of the first book and had to give up. I really don't get why it's so popular. I could write better myself and have read better online for free. I put it down to repressed housewives.

    It has no redeeming qualities whatsoever- the plot is awful, the characters (especially Anastasia) are one dimensional ... I don't get it. It's a sad indictment of literature today that the woman who wrote it is earning a million a week.

    I agree. It's horrendous. The writing is a joke and Ana is a totally one-dimensional and unlikeable protagonist. If you want to read a bit of erotic literature, there are thousands of websites doing it better. :confused:


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    #121
    LittleBook
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    Yes, that's infuriating thing #3525235236 about the book. You're only into BDSM if you're traumatised, and
    once your "issues" are finally resolved you'll put away all your BDSM inclinations and turn vanilla and "normal" forever after.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again ... E. L. James has no understanding whatsoever of BDSM relationships, likewise neither do her readers ... even less so now having read the bloody book.

    If anyone had written a book as misinformed as this one on any other subject it would never have been published. But throw a bit of porn in and you've got yourself a book deal. :rolleyes:


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