March for Choice 29th September

Piste · 03-09-2012 3:51am

Well that's all great and lovely and nothing to do with abortion.

Wompa1 · 03-09-2012 4:02am

up for anything wrote: »

Better compromises? Why should women be forced to compromise over control of their own bodies?

I think the issue is more about the body that's inside them...I could be wrong though...I don't really care much about it because men don't have much of a say. The population of the planet is apparently spiraling out of control so there's a sliver lining. Morally though...

mackg · 03-09-2012 4:02am

Ambient Occlusion wrote: »

Surely though it's not an insurmountable journey to the North to get it done if one wants to? It's better than not having it all because the other side will never concede to allowing it. I'm anti-abortion myself (Dunno why that is TBH) however I have no problem with people getting it done over the border if they choose to do so. Simply if no mention of the legality is made of getting it done elsewhere then no one need worry. That's a close to a friendly compromise as I can see and if the Holy See has a problem with it, tough.

In short the anti-abortionists get their nice pristine constitution that obeys himself in the sky and the pro-abortionists get what they want.
But of course I'm ignoring a whole load of other complexities and variables aren't I?

I really don't get this. Either you're ant-abortion or your not. If you have no problem with them getting it done over the border if they choose to do so why do you have a problem with them getting it done here if they choose to do so?

Chucken wrote: »

Here.Watch this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g46hlT_2804

Just so people know that's just a demonstration using a doll.

Chucken · 03-09-2012 4:05am

Piste wrote: »

Well that's all great and lovely and nothing to do with abortion.

Ya think??

Abdul Abulbul Amir · 03-09-2012 4:09am

Chucken wrote: »

No, I'm not stirring ****.

No one will give a ****, not here anyway, I was born at 24 weeks.

I'm a person.

Oh, By the way that was 48 years ago.

Happy birthday?

I'll probably go. The pro-choice side doesn't properly represent my views, but that's just nitpicking, it's best to be pragmatic about it and support a common cause. I don't think it will change anything but it's about making the point.

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 03-09-2012 4:19am

No, but I'll be attending the march for Happiness. Then later in October, I'll be at the march for Inspiration.

Abdul Abulbul Amir · 03-09-2012 4:20am

Wompa1 wrote: »

I think the issue is more about the body that's inside them...I could be wrong though...I don't really care much about it because men don't have much of a say. The population of the planet is apparently spiraling out of control so there's a sliver lining. Morally though...

Just to nitpick more for a moment, if you look at the population growth statistics, you'll see that the population explosion of the 20th century was mostly confined to Asia and that forecast growth is due in Africa, with the developed world flat or declining for the same period. Nothing to do with abortion, but it's always what comes to mind for me when someone suggests something like 'think global, act local' with regard to population growth. Unless you're a peasant farmer who's going to have 9 kids as an insurance policy for old age, you're not part of the problem.

Wompa1 · 03-09-2012 4:26am

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

Just to nitpick more for a moment, if you look at the population growth statistics, you'll see that the population explosion of the 20th century was mostly confined to Asia and that forecast growth is due in Africa, with the developed world flat or declining for the same period. Nothing to do with abortion, but it's always what comes to mind for me when someone suggests something like 'think global, act local' with regard to population growth. Unless you're a peasant farmer who's going to have 9 kids as an insurance policy for old age, you're not part of the problem.

I did say apparently.

Abdul Abulbul Amir · 03-09-2012 4:27am

Wompa1 wrote: »

I did say apparently.

True that wompa, true that.

Chucken · 03-09-2012 4:29am

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

Just to nitpick more for a moment, if you look at the population growth statistics, you'll see that the population explosion of the 20th century was mostly confined to Asia and that forecast growth is due in Africa, with the developed world flat or declining for the same period. Nothing to do with abortion, but it's always what comes to mind for me when someone suggests something like 'think global, act local' with regard to population growth. Unless you're a peasant farmer who's going to have 9 kids as an insurance policy for old age, you're not part of the problem.

You cant do Paragraphs?

Abdul Abulbul Amir · 03-09-2012 4:33am

Chucken wrote: »

You cant do Paragraphs?

That is a paragraph.

It's three sentences long.

Do you need it broken down into individual sentences?

Like this?

dave3004 · 03-09-2012 5:56am

For me, this is the biggest "Where do you draw the line?" issue on the planet.

I understand every single perspective and viewpoint on it but for me....I believe if you are pregnant.....have the child. Regardless of situation. But I understand if they do not want to.

Actor · 03-09-2012 6:21am

Presumably Ivana Bacik be megaphoner in-chief?

Nodin · 03-09-2012 6:41am

Actor wrote: »

Presumably Ivana Bacik be megaphoner in-chief?

You're a tad obsessed with that woman.

up for anything · 03-09-2012 7:28am

Wompa1 wrote: »

I think the issue is more about the body that's inside them...I could be wrong though...I don't really care much about it because men don't have much of a say. The population of the planet is apparently spiraling out of control so there's a sliver lining. Morally though...

Morally speaking from your point of view.

Wompa1 · 03-09-2012 7:31am

up for anything wrote: »

Morally speaking from your point of view.

Morally in a general sense. Even if you don't think it's a big deal that's your sense of morality...

stunmer · 03-09-2012 7:46am

Rigol wrote: »

I think I'll go, the women there are supporters of abortion and by logic want the freedom of choice of abortion due to the fact that they have multiple brief intimate relationships with lots of different men
If I go there I will have an increased chance of being chosen for such a brief exchange of bodily fluids which will give me the nice endorphin's.
The gamble is whether the cost of the bus journey will be a poor investment.
Ill schedule it in, although I may have to abort this plan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tCkqWptDH0

aloyisious · 03-09-2012 8:09am

@Demonique: What side will this event be standing on? the side to allow Irish Women have Irish Legislation allowing them to have abortions in the Republic free of O/P's personal opinions making the decision for them, or the side that feel's abortions should not be allowed for any reason in the Republic.

nozzferrahhtoo · 03-09-2012 8:16am

philologos wrote: »

Why post this in After Hours? Why assume that people who post here are automatically pro-choice-to-abort?

He asked a question. I see no such assumption built into that question that you appear to see.

Why do YOU assume that people may only ask questions here if the people who post here are some how in line with the person asking it? He has as much right to ask such a question as you have to ask if anyone here is going to an anti abortion rally.

NinjaK · 03-09-2012 9:24am

Should be called the march for death..

kingtubby · 03-09-2012 9:29am

If its the choice to do cocaine I'm there!!

dr strangelove · 03-09-2012 10:01am

Hey - i've got a crazy idea - why don't you legalise abortion, but....... and pay attention now...... if you don't want an abortion, don't have one!

Or did i miss something?

kingtubby · 03-09-2012 10:03am

dr strangelove wrote: »

Hey - i've got a crazy idea - why don't you legalise abortion, but....... and pay attention now...... if you don't want an abortion, don't have one!

Or did i miss something?

Lets do that with cocaine as well

dr strangelove · 03-09-2012 10:04am

kingtubby wrote: »

Lets do that with cocaine as well

And popcorn?

Seanchai · 03-09-2012 10:04am

Demonique wrote: »

There will be a March for Choice on September 29th at the Spire taking place at 2pm

Is anyone going?

What is the choice? Life or death?

kingtubby · 03-09-2012 10:05am

dr strangelove wrote: »

And popcorn?

NO!!

Popcorn must remain mandatory

dr strangelove · 03-09-2012 10:15am

now, now - don't go forcing your popcorn-centric beliefs on me!

I may chose popcorn, i may chose nachos - but it's MY tummy, MY choice, in fact maybe we should have a poll - popcorn? nachos? atari ham sammiches?

kraggy · 03-09-2012 10:44am

ruthloss wrote: »

I am always amazed at the amount of men who are against Abortion.

Let's face it, they will never have to make that agonizing dicision.

But men should have the right to partake in the decision making. Just because the woman is carrying the baby, doesn't mean that she should have sole right to determine its future.

If someone decided to abort my child without consulting me, I'd be afraid of what I'd do.

The baby would be my flesh and blood too.

PucaMama · 03-09-2012 1:51pm

kraggy wrote: »

But men should have the right to partake in the decision making. Just because the woman is carrying the baby, doesn't mean that she should have sole right to determine its future.

If someone decided to abort my child without consulting me, I'd be afraid of what I'd do.

The baby would be my flesh and blood too.

but doesnt that leave women open to being pushed into having an abortion? the reality is that it IS her body and a man cant control it.

Lapin · 03-09-2012 3:08pm

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

Just to nitpick more for a moment, if you look at the population growth statistics, you'll see that the population explosion of the 20th century was mostly confined to Asia and that forecast growth is due in Africa, with the developed world flat or declining for the same period. Nothing to do with abortion, but it's always what comes to mind for me when someone suggests something like 'think global, act local' with regard to population growth. Unless you're a peasant farmer who's going to have 9 kids as an insurance policy for old age, you're not part of the problem.

Chucken wrote: »

You cant do Paragraphs?

Abdul Abulbul Amir wrote: »

That is a paragraph.

It's three sentences long.

Do you need it broken down into individual sentences?

Like this?

Yes, why not? It would make you post a lot easier to read and its not a difficult thing to do.

I usually ignore bulky posts because if the poster can't be arsed tidying them up, I can't be arsed picking my way through them .

See -

Just to nitpick more for a moment, if you look at the population growth statistics, you'll see that the population explosion of the 20th century was mostly confined to Asia and that forecast growth is due in Africa, with the developed world flat or declining for the same period.

Nothing to do with abortion, but it's always what comes to mind for me when someone suggests something like 'think global, act local' with regard to population growth.

Unless you're a peasant farmer who's going to have 9 kids as an insurance policy for old age, you're not part of the problem.

- Much easier on the eye.

Back on topic, can someone explain why the abortion debate has resurfaced again recently ?

March for Choice 29th September

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