Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. [US] ** Spoilers **

Bullseye1

Just announced.
http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=35011

Joss Whedon to direct and co write pilot. It would be interesting to see if some of the movies characters would make some appearances. Certainly Coulson and Maria Hill could be regulars especially if they set this pre-Avengers.

Oh and I know it's tv series and not a film but I thought it might be no harm posting a thread here since there is a following of comic book movies here.

johnny_ultimate

Moved to TV - more than enough superhero film threads in film at the moment without expanding to other mediums!

don ramo

ABC in america have ordered a S.H.I.E.L.D pilot that Josh Whedon will write and could possibly direct,

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2012/08/29/pilot-ordered-for-abcs-joss-whedon-marvel-tv-series-and-its-shield

this is a big risk for Marvel to take, but seeing at how successful the Avengers franchise is this could expand even further on the Marvel universe, and the series could be used a vehicle to lead us into each film, with Marvel releasing a film practically every 6 months for each individual character, and it looking like a single Avengers film every 3 or 4 years,

this could be epic if done right, and with Whedon himself involved in the pilot, it could easily go to series, and with his vested interest in The Avengers franchise he could have a lot of involvement in the series,

New Joss Whedon TV show? Excuse me while I have a slight nerdgasm.

wes

Fingers crossed that this will be good, but then Joss Whedon is involved, so there probably isn't any need for that.

I hope they find an excuse to swear in Chinese.

DeWitt

Amy Acker. Amy Acker. Amy Acker.

JP Liz V1

Nathan Fillion Nathan Fillion Nathan Fillion

Richard Dower

This could be the biggest and buzzed pilot ever!....surpassing Wonder Woman, i ope the actor who died in Avengers gets cast as the lead, Coulson....he was great!

This is very much like a played straight Men In Black....if you''ve seen Item 47 there are 47 alien tech/items out there, they could prequel it....each week tryna recover an item etc.

Item 47 had Titus Welliver, Lizzy Caplan + that guy fom Buffy has was bofing Anya...Brendan something.

don ramo

Richard Dower wrote: »

This could be the biggest and buzzed pilot ever!....surpassing Wonder Woman,

i ope the actor who died in Avengers gets cast as the lead, Coulson....he was great!

This is very much like a played straight Men In Black....if you''ve seen Item 47 there are 47 alien tech/items out there, they could prequel it....each week tryna recover an item etc.

Item 47 had Titus Welliver, Lizzy Caplan + that guy fom Buffy has was bofing Anya...Brendan something.

spoilers man, also item 47 is fairly self contained, the storyline doesnt leave much room for expansion

also as i said its only gotten a pilot order, no doubt it will be a very expensive show to make, so its all down to how cheaply they can make it,

also it would be great if they got cobie smulders in as hill in the series, if HIMYM ends this year she might get cast, i dunno if shell try her hand at films afterwards or what, itd be cool if they could get an avenger or two to pop up every so often, it might be in their contracts for all we know :cool:

don ramo

whedon is more or less saying hell drop by from time to time if the show gets picked up to series, hes not gonna be the show runner, he does have another film to get to work on like:D

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/08/30/joss-whedon-talks-s-h-i-e-l-d-tv-series-plus-the-avengers-back-in-theaters-labor-day-weekend/

pixelburp

I said it already in another thread, but this will be an interesting acid-test of just how much stomach audiences have for the superhero genre. It's one thing to get bums on seats for thrill-rides in the cinema, another to get them behind a TV show. 'Proper' superhero telly is practically non-existent - the costumes, capes & operatic variety that is - and when they have tried it with shows like The Cape, they've tended to be garbage. I'm presuming though that the sheer calibre of money, clout & names behind the pilot will give it a better chance than most.

Given it'll be focused on SHIELD, I guess the arc of the show will be more along the lines of Fringe or the like: following a crack team of agents investigating various Marvel-related threats & shenanigans, maybe bring in friends & foes from the comics that are too B-list for the cinema.

don ramo

pixelburp wrote: »

I said it already in another thread, but this will be an interesting acid-test of just how much stomach audiences have for the superhero genre. It's one thing to get bums on seats for thrill-rides in the cinema, another to get them behind a TV show. 'Proper' superhero telly is practically non-existent - the costumes, capes & operatic variety that is - and when they have tried it with shows like The Cape, they've tended to be garbage. I'm presuming though that the sheer calibre of money, clout & names behind the pilot will give it a better chance than most.

Given it'll be focused on SHIELD, I guess the arc of the show will be more along the lines of Fringe or the like: following a crack team of agents investigating various Marvel-related threats & shenanigans, maybe bring in friends & foes from the comics that are too B-list for the cinema.

smallville was extremely successful and ran for 10 season :o,

but yeah i could see something along the story telling of fringe possibly working, its gonna be a big ask, not only to get a solid cast and a good writing crew together but imagine how much itll cost to make also,

pixelburp

don ramo wrote: »

smallville was extremely successful and ran for 10 season :o,

See my caveat about being complete garbage and besides, even Smallville for the most part kept its superheroes behind closed doors & as shadow'y, guarded secrets: I'm talking about TV worlds where superhero exist & are very public in saving the world and doing their thing. Costumed heros have tended not to work on TV

Richard Dower

Character details: http://tvline.com/2012/10/01/joss-whedon-s-h-i-e-l-d-casting/

DeWitt

Coulda be fake. Whedon is known for false sides during auditions.

Skerries

DeWitt wrote: »

Amy Acker. Amy Acker. Amy Acker.

she's currently the bad guy in Person of Interest

JP Liz V1

Wheddon likes to work with same group actors so of course anyone from Buffy, Angel, Dollhouse and Firefly will be linked

I'd like Enver Gjokaj and Adam Baldwin to be cast

Colmo52

F*ck Yeah. Clark Gregg to reprise his role as Coulson

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/nycomicconnews.php?id=95880

Will Samuel L. Jackon also make an appearance, I wonder?

don ramo

any word on an actual air date for this yet, are we gonna see it at some point in 2013

pixelburp

Colmo52 wrote: »

F*ck Yeah. Clark Gregg to reprise his role as Coulson

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/nycomicconnews.php?id=95880

Better spoiler this, just to protect the overly sensitive:

Well that announcement leaves two possibilities really, doesn't it? Either Coulson wasn't actually dead, in which case Whedon is committing a fairly cheap, cardinal sin of storytelling, or else it's a prequel of some kind. I hope it's the latter because the former just undercuts a lot of the movies pathos.

don ramo

pixelburp wrote: »

Better spoiler this, just to protect the overly sensitive:

Well that announcement leaves two possibilities really, doesn't it? Either Coulson wasn't actually dead, in which case Whedon is committing a fairly cheap, cardinal sin of storytelling, or else it's a prequel of some kind. I hope it's the latter because the former just undercuts a lot of the movies pathos.

not much need for spoilers, cause we know noting about how the show is gonna play out, and your giving your opinion,

it would make sense for it to be a prequel, that way when you get a big bad guy the S.H.I.E.L.D team will have to deal with the problem themselves, and not just give stark a buzz to take care of it, im more interested in whether hawkeye or black widow will make an appearance if it is a prequel,

Icarus Wings

don ramo wrote: »

not much need for spoilers, cause we know noting about how the show is gonna play out, and your giving your opinion,

it would make sense for it to be a prequel, that way when you get a big bad guy the S.H.I.E.L.D team will have to deal with the problem themselves, and not just give stark a buzz to take care of it, im more interested in whether hawkeye or black widow will make an appearance if it is a prequel,

Interesting to see if they will focus entirely on the classic "soldier/agent team" element taking on lesser known and once-off villians from the comics (kind of like NCIS, with a clear emphasis on the team) or a show focussed on building up the less famous hero types.

Hard to see them including the "big" names in the series, as those will probably be saved for individual movies. I'd love to see the likes of Nova, Cable, Luke Cage and Dr. Strange. I'll be shocked if there's no appearance of Bucky...although don't know how that would fit into the continuum.

pixelburp

don ramo wrote: »

not much need for spoilers, cause we know noting about how the show is gonna play out, and your giving your opinion,

it would make sense for it to be a prequel, that way when you get a big bad guy the S.H.I.E.L.D team will have to deal with the problem themselves, and not just give stark a buzz to take care of it, im more interested in whether hawkeye or black widow will make an appearance if it is a prequel,

Well I just spoilered it in case there were those who hadn't yet seen the film, and it could be argued it's not a prerequisite to discussing the TV show. That said I suppose it's hard to take this announcement and not talk about the characters arc in the film.

I suppose the most obvious arc to take with the prequel idea could be its formation - how SHIELD went from being AN-Other agency in Iron Man 1 to the globe-spanning powerhouse it was in Avengers.

Greyjoy

The series could still be set post-"Avengers" by having SHIELD deal with smaller threats that would be under the Avengers' radar (like the "Item 47" short film : a pair of bank robbers get their hands on a alien weapon left behind in NYC).

If that is the case then as much as I love the character I think it's a huge mistake to bring back Coulson (for similar reasons to Pixelburp in post #22).

Richard Dower

Ming Na cast,,,,saw her last on SGU: http://tvline.com/2012/10/24/marvel-shield-casts-ming-na/#utm_source=copypaste&utm_campaign=referral

Richard Dower

Two more actors cast: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/elizabeth-henstridge-iain-de-caestecker-shield-joss-whedon-389604

Richard Dower

More cast added, pretty sure this'll be picked up by someone.

http://tvline.com/2012/11/27/shield-tv-show-casts-brett-dalton/

don ramo

would love to see someone like lance reddick and john noble from fringe get on this show, have noble in charge of the division and reddick in charge on the ground, and maybe yvonne strahovski from chuck also, and maybe get brian cranston from breaking bad in as the series bad guy,

pixelburp

Well that answers that then - the pilot will be set after the events of The Avengers; so naturally the next question is how Coulson fits in. I guess he's either alive or present in flashback:

http://www.slashfilm.com/marvels-s-h-i-e-l-d-takes-place-after-the-avengers-how-does-agent-coulson-fit-in/

don ramo

pixelburp wrote: »

Well that answers that then - the pilot will be set after the events of The Avengers; so naturally the next question is how Coulson fits in. I guess he's either alive or present in flashback:

http://www.slashfilm.com/marvels-s-h-i-e-l-d-takes-place-after-the-avengers-how-does-agent-coulson-fit-in/

or a hologram,

ScrubsfanChris

In the Avengers, Fury lied about Colson having the trading cards on him when he died. So its not impossible to think lied about his death as well. Even if Whedon does say he IS dead in the commentary.

Clone anyone?

flazio

Hmm, Felicia Day, who Joss Whedon lets pop up in various projects of his every now and then, has stopped recording links between segments in her online 'Flog' series because she's involved in a super secret project. Could she be in the SHEILD series?

DaveNoCheese

When I read this, I nerded all over the floor...

don ramo

filming has apparently started on the pilot, hopefully some kind of reaction should be heard in the next month or two,

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/01/22/s-h-i-e-l-d-pilot-starts-filming/

Richard Dower

don ramo wrote: »

filming has apparently started on the pilot, hopefully some kind of reaction should be heard in the next month or two,

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/01/22/s-h-i-e-l-d-pilot-starts-filming/

Is there any doubt of a series pickup?....c'mon!, unless it's bad, i'm talking Wonder Woman bad, it's a sure thing

don ramo

Richard Dower wrote: »

Is there any doubt of a series pickup?....c'mon!, unless it's bad, i'm talking Wonder Woman bad, it's a sure thing

with whedon at the helm there is zero chance of anything like that happening,

the big question is if people who are into this will actually watch the show when it does air, a lot of shows like this have struggled, and i cant see this being a cheap show to make,

pixelburp

Richard Dower wrote: »

Is there any doubt of a series pickup?....c'mon!, unless it's bad, i'm talking Wonder Woman bad, it's a sure thing

It's not guaranteed. Whedon might be the golden child at the moment, but his involvement ensures nothing really: Spielbergs involvement with Terra Nova & Falling Skies didn't prevent both from being cancelled / sub-standard (even if he was merely executive producer on both). Revolution also showed that despite being a hot property in Hollywood, JJ Abrahms mere presence wasn't a guarantee of quality.

don ramo

pixelburp wrote: »

It's not guaranteed. Whedon might be the golden child at the moment, but his involvement ensures nothing really: Spielbergs involvement with Terra Nova & Falling Skies didn't prevent both from being cancelled / sub-standard (even if he was merely executive producer on both). Revolution also showed that despite being a hot property in Hollywood, JJ Abrahms mere presence wasn't a guarantee of quality.

it will get a series pick-up, that id say is a guarantee, unless they come back and say its gonna cost $7million an episode like game of thrones, then there is no chance, i think most networks draw the line about the $4million mark,

Antar Bolaeisk

So long as he doesn't hire Summer Glau we'll hopefully get a few seasons out of it.

MyBrokenKnees

Also helps not being on Fox. They do like to drop the axe on shows early. :mad:

Thwip!

How will people this side of the pond see it? Will we have to watch online or wait till somewhere like Sky picks it up?

Kirby

People just assume that because everyone loved the Avengers that this show has an audience but I wouldn't be so sure. Everybody saw the film but I would wager 99% of the viewing public don't know or care who Whedon is.

Whedon is clever and good at what he does but his involvement doesn't automatically make this a hit or even any good. Whedon had "Valve" like status a few years back with audiences. Even if it got cancelled, it would still be a quality show. You knew going in it was going to be excellent.

He doesn't have that any more. Dollhouse, in my opinion, was quite poor and didn't deserve the second season it got. I hope its good but it will definitely be a "wait and see" show.

don ramo

Kirby wrote: »

People just assume that because everyone loved the Avengers that this show has an audience but I wouldn't be so sure. Everybody saw the film but I would wager 99% of the viewing public don't know or care who Whedon is.

Whedon is clever and good at what he does but his involvement doesn't automatically make this a hit or even any good. Whedon had "Valve" like status a few years back with audiences. Even if it got cancelled, it would still be a quality show. You knew going in it was going to be excellent.

He doesn't have that any more. Dollhouse, in my opinion, was quite poor and didn't deserve the second season it got. I hope its good but it will definitely be a "wait and see" show.

its not just about having whedon on-board with this, im glad someone like him is heading up this project, but i don't think hes gonna be in complete charge of the show, his job will be to get it off the ground and then hand the duties off to someone else so he can go and work on phase 2 of the avengers,

the main reason i like that whedon is involved is that he always creates good characters in his shows, he generally doesn't create two dimensional cardboard characters,

his input will most likely be like JJ Abrams input on Fringe, as an executive producer, its highly unlikely it will be like Abrams role on Alias where he was the show-runner, or he could also do what Abrams did on lost, get the show going and then more or less abandon it and pop up randomly to spice it up a bit,

marvel haven't really done much wrong since they went head first into the avengers series, and with phase 2 currently in progress, and most likely a 3rd phase after that, a show like this could end up having interlacing stories for at least 3-5 seasons,

the show has a lot going for it, but i do agree it is questionable if the success of the avengers films on the big screen will translate to the small screen,

networks have struggled to make good high concept action shows the last few years, weve mainly been restricted to shows like Nikita and Arrow on the CW, i would expect this to be a big step up from them shows, as much as i enjoy them i think it time to take it up a level, and i think this is the show that can do it, or get cancelled trying;):p:p:p

pixelburp

Hmmm, well one potential stumbling block in this project may be getting the casual viewers on board & watching. Naturally, there'll be a core comic / geek demographic that'll flock to the show, but part of the Avengers' success was through the precedent of the run-up films and star power. The TV show won't have either of those (that we know of), and if SHIELD is completely divorced from its superhero brethren, those expecting Downey Jr & co. to crack wise for ~60 minutes might turn off once they realise they're not showing up. With that in mind, I'd not be surprised if there were some mid-season cameos to keep people watching.

Richard Dower

Cobie Smulders wants to be on the show!

http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/01/shield-cobie-smulders-open-to-appearing.html

Richard Dower

http://tvline.com/2013/02/18/shield-tv-series-spoilers-joss-whedon-maria-hill/

pixelburp

Update on this & how Agent Coulson is managing to appear on the show: looks like he really is pulling a fast one, and by his other comments the budget may not be too crazy, if indeed it's set among the 'everyday' for agents of SHIELD

http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Joss-Whedon-Tells-SXSW-Crowd-...

don ramo

i was actually expecting some kind of trailer for this show to be floating around by now, they've have the pilot shot a few weeks and i would have thought they'd slap a trailer together for us fans by now,

Richard Dower

Then there is a drama pilot with a zero buzz that is all but assured a spot on the schedule, Joss Whedon’s S.H.I.E.L.D. Why isn’t anyone talking about S.H.I.E.L.D.? Because virtually no one has seen it, with Marvel and Whedon keeping the footage under lock and key

Show retitled? http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/04/shield-did-it-get-re-titled.html

Some new casting news, this news suggests its pretty much picked up...i'd say a 13 episode order: http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/04/shield-casting-news-j-august-richards.html