Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15 Mod Warning post #6011

rosskind

What about Mjallby? Left cause he wanted a manager's job. Less upheaval. Knows the players, they know him.

I bet he was feeding Lennon sly comments about the boards' lack of ambition so he could get the job himself!

Dempsey

Celtics lack of ambition laid bare by the fiasco with Samaras and now Lennon.

Lawwell will waffle on with some spin but its because of what he's done to the squad over the past 2 years has made up Lennon's mind.

Lennonist

rosskind wrote: »

What about Mjallby? Left cause he wanted a manager's job. Less upheaval. Knows the players, they know him.

I bet he was feeding Lennon sly comments about the boards' lack of ambition so he could get the job himself!

It looks like Mjallby left because he knew Lennon was leaving. If he wanted the job he would have stayed and probably would've got it if he wanted it.

LiamoSail

rarnes1 wrote: »

Perfect job for Moyes tbh.

Can work on a small budget and has plenty of experience

I don't agree. The new manager will have a small budget, but it will still be a multiple of what anyone else in the league has, so domestically, Moyes's success with Everton probably isn't a great indicator

In terms of European football, as fourth seed Celtic are always going to be the underdog. While Moyes performed well as the underdog with Everton, his record against better sides was poor. In Europe, the luxury of being able to afford to be beaten by the bigger sides as long as points are picked up at the smaller sides, isn't there, so While I think it would be a good move for Moyes in terms of rebuilding his reputation, I don't think the same is true for celtic

buckfasterer

buckfasterer wrote: »

I think we might find this is Lalwells doing here. Unwilling to invest in the squad, happy to get group stage champions league money and win the league again and get complacent. Malkay for the job imo.

Dempsey wrote: »

Celtics lack of ambition laid bare by the fiasco with Samaras and now Lennon.

Lawwell will waffle on with some spin but its because of what he's done to the squad over the past 2 years has made up Lennon's mind.

Lol.....we agree on something??

Dempsey

buckfasterer wrote: »

Lol.....we agree on something??

Except I wouldn't let Mackay near the job. Jackie McNamara would be my 1st choice by a distance

buckfasterer

Dempsey wrote: »

Except I wouldn't let Mackay near the job. Jackie McNamara would be my 1st choice by a distance

I knew there would be something!

For what it's worth, I think Mackay has more experience than Jackie. That's why I would chose him first. Big Mick might be in with a shout this time around maybe?

Dempsey

buckfasterer wrote: »

I knew there would be something!

For what it's worth, I think Mackay has more experience than Jackie. That's why I would chose him first. Big Mick might be in with a shout this time around maybe?

There wouldn't be much to talk about if we all agreed or easily conformed to a singular viewpoint

Jimmy Rabbitte Snr

Would love to see Moyes or McKay get the job but honestly don't see it happening. I think Jackie Mc or Owen Coyle will be the front runners. I know the chance to manage in the CL is a draw for managers but i honestly think the lack of funds and competition in the league will be a deciding factor and a major drawback for any incoming manager....

Dempsey

Owen Coyle as Celtic manager would be a painful experience. He talks a woeful amount of bollox. Lennon was straight talking, I'd prefer that approach with fans to continue

RoryMac

Jimmy Rabbitte Snr wrote: »

Would love to see Moyes or McKay get the job but honestly don't see it happening. I think Jackie Mc or Owen Coyle will be the front runners. I know the chance to manage in the CL is a draw for managers but i honestly think the lack of funds and competition in the league will be a deciding factor and a major drawback for any incoming manager....

I think Jackie Mc is a good shout, I like the style of football he has Dundee Utd playing and he looks to be open to giving young players a chance to play although that may be forced on him due to the budget.

I think you're right about attracting managers to the Celtic job, thinking about it since the announcement I think the lack of competition played a big part in Lennon leaving. The season is pretty much over by Christmas. I think between the budget available from the board & the current state of Scottish football we won't be seeing a big name come.

Hopefully the board have someone in mind & someone with fresh ideas with an emphasis on bring through young players playing a more modern style of football.

rosskind

I'd like Jackie Mac, I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but is what he's achieved at Partick and Dundee United any better than what Coyle did with St Johnstone and then Burnley? Both almost got promotion from First Division, left just before. The next stage isn't so comparable. Would you blame Jackie for finishing 10(?) point behind second/third?

RoryMac

rosskind wrote: »

I'd like Jackie Mac, I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but is what he's achieved at Partick and Dundee United any better than what Coyle did with St Johnstone and then Burnley? Both almost got promotion from First Division, left just before. The next stage isn't so comparable. Would you blame Jackie for finishing 10(?) point behind second/third?

Probably not much difference but I don't like Coyle so that rules him out!!

Steve Clarke might be an option

rosskind

Clarke would be the best ex-EPL manager imo (over the likes Moyes, Coyle, Hughton, McCarthy) if the club decide to push the boat out a bit on manager salary, which I'd imagine is negligible compared to players'. Only cheaper options I can think of are Jackie and Henrik (surely Jackie wins?) unless we go from inside with McCart or Frail.

The first qualifier is only 7 weeks away so I think Mjallby has a good chance; continuity, speed, cheap, no compensation needed.

Dempsey

rosskind wrote: »

I'd like Jackie Mac, I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but is what he's achieved at Partick and Dundee United any better than what Coyle did with St Johnstone and then Burnley? Both almost got promotion from First Division, left just before. The next stage isn't so comparable. Would you blame Jackie for finishing 10(?) point behind second/third?

One is an active manager in charge of some of the brightest prospects in Scottish Football.

The other talks shíte on TV3 & BT Sports

rosskind

Don't get me wrong, I'm with you on this. I just think it's hard (almost impossible) for outsiders, who don't see what's going on on the training ground every day, to truly know the quality of a manager unless they've had success over a long time and/or have a clearly visible style or system.

But anyway, that's an elite level and not a luxury we have. Every manager at our level will be a risk but we just have to trust the board and I'd be delighted if it was Jackie.

Dempsey

Mjallby is 25/1, worth a flutter!

rosskind

Already on it!! As I said, with the CL qualifiers not that far away, the board will want to get it done pretty soon, with minimal upheaval, which gives him a big advantage.

Lennonist

rosskind wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, I'm with you on this. I just think it's hard (almost impossible) for outsiders, who don't see what's going on on the training ground every day, to truly know the quality of a manager unless they've had success over a long time and/or have a clearly visible style or system.

But anyway, that's an elite level and not a luxury we have. Every manager at our level will be a risk but we just have to trust the board and I'd be delighted if it was Jackie.

The board are also concerned about season ticket sales. I don't think Jackie Mac fits the bill in that one. They might think that Henrik will put bums on seats, that's maybe why he's the favourite for the job so far.

Dempsey

Lennonist wrote: »

The board are also concerned about season ticket sales. I don't think Jackie Mac fits the bill in that one. They might think that Henrik will put bums on seats, that's maybe why he's the favourite for the job so far.

It would be a populist decision, not neccessarily the correct one. His managerial record is nothing to write home about either. I hope the club dont make the decision based on a possible decline of 1 seasons ticket sales. Very shortsighted stuff

rosskind

I don't know the story with revenue from season tickets, but would they risk a big name rather than a good manager over it? Surely (again, may be wrong) CL money dwarfs it. I understand it may sway a close decision but Larsson is a huge risk over some of the others.

Also, I wouldn't trust bookies when it comes to deciding favourites for jobs. It's more to suit their market. For example, EPLers thinking Pep or Klopp are would jump at the chance to manage in England despite declaring (a million times) that they're not moving. Or Jim McGuiness being among the names for the Celtic job.

Lennonist

rosskind wrote: »

I don't know the story with revenue from season tickets, but would they risk a big name rather than a good manager over it? Surely (again, may be wrong) CL money dwarfs it. I understand it may sway a close decision but Larsson is a huge risk over some of the others.

It could sway a decision if it was between Larsson and McNamara. It's not like Jackie McNamara has tons of experience over and above what Henrik Larsson has in management.

eire4

Gutted to hear the news about Neil Lennon leaving as manager today. I was hoping he would be our manager longer then the 4 years it ended up being. But there is no doubt Lennon left Celtic in a strong position especially when compared to what was going on on the field when he took over. A good man and a good manager who did our club proud. Thank you Neil for all the great memories.

eire4

Looking at the kind of names that have been thrown around and also the fact that we need a new assistant with Mjallby gone also I think a team of Paul Lambert as manager and Steve Clarke as assistant would be good.

Dempsey

Given Lamberts previous comments about Scottish Football and the idea of managing Celtic I dont ever envisage a return by him.

Augmerson

Wouldn't be too impressed with Lambert at Celtic and I think a lot of Villa fans would agree, he did ok with Norwich though I think.

Charlie19

So Larson has ruled himself out. He said he wont breaking the contract he's currently in.

donfers

I'd go with Malky Mckay and if he says no then Jackie Mcnamara and we'll take a few of dundee uniteds wonder kids with him

A Dub in Glasgo

Herald in Scotland is saying Oscar Garcia high on the list

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/exclusive-garcia-high-on-celtics-short-list-of-candidates-to-replace-lennon.24301248

buckfasterer

Looks like Coyle is current favorite for the job, best price on him is 1/2 now. Not for me to be honest.