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    #752
    flyswatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭flyswatter


    Surely that chloroform comment is aimed against men if anything, since one of the two posts quoted mentions sailors which I would presume are male?

    If you take offence to a comment like that it's similar to being offended by a joke that someone like Frankie Boyle would regularly make.


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    #753
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    flyswatter wrote: »
    Surely that chloroform comment is aimed against men if anything, since one of the two posts quoted mentions sailors which I would presume are male?

    If you take offence to a comment like that it's similar to being offended by a joke that someone like Frankie Boyle would regularly make.

    Is it okay to joke about raping men?

    How hard is it to not be a dick to men?

    etc etc


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    #754
    flyswatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭flyswatter


    Bambi wrote: »
    Is it okay to joke about raping men?

    How hard is it to not be a dick to men?

    etc etc

    No, of course not as I stated in my post about double standards earlier.

    Just thought I'd point that out as the thread generally relates to the other sex.


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    #755
    IvySlayer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,187 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Don't think there's any major issues involving sexism, some people just overreact and are oversensitive. Don't see what this thread is going to achieve.

    Oh btw, there were a few threads about fathers rights, and some female posters objected to equal rights, how the hell would a thread like that work? Anyone who disagrees is clearly sexist :S


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    #756
    Millicent
    Registered Users Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Don't think there's any major issues involving sexism, some people just overreact and are oversensitive. Don't see what this thread is going to achieve.

    No they're not. There have been a fair few reasoned posts in here as to why people find certain posts offensive. Calling people oversensitive is needlessly dismissive.
    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Oh btw, there were a few threads about fathers rights, and some female posters objected to equal rights, how the hell would a thread like that work? Anyone who disagrees is clearly sexist :S

    Those people are dicktits, and what's more, they're sexist dicktits. Just because it's a woman saying a man doesn't deserve equal rights to his child, doesn't make it not sexist. It is horribly and blatantly so. I have seen a few women on fathers' rights threads with those views. They tend to get, quite rightly, smacked down fairly quickly by male and female posters. It's not acceptable from either gender to malign the opposite sex.


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    #757
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    If this post got a warning because of a supposed contravention re: gender stereotyping, it is utterly ridiculous:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80451462&postcount=3

    And I'm hardly one to condone sexism or misogyny.


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    #758
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    anncoates wrote: »
    If this post got a warning because of a supposed contravention re: gender stereotyping, it is utterly ridiculous:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80451462&postcount=3

    And I'm hardly one to condone sexism or misogyny.

    ....to be honest, I don't even get it.....Bit "left field".


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    #759
    flyswatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭flyswatter


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....to be honest, I don't even get it.....Bit "left field".

    As far as I can see it's a pretty tame joke about a Lion going round humping women before it's caught.

    I see the reason given for the yellow card is "N/A", would be interested to actually hear the reason given.


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    #760
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Nodin wrote: »
    ....to be honest, I don't even get it.....Bit "left field".

    I assume it's a joke about the stereotypical; Essex girls and lads thing: drinking and shagging a lot.

    Hardly up there with the Sexism Greatest Hits, especially for AH.


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    #761
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Maybe I'm just old.....old and grey....


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    #762
    The Sweeper
    Registered Users Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    Kinda like jokes about Essex girls tbh.


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    #763
    flirtychat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ✭flirtychat


    Why is flirting still allowed happen in threads. One or two posters in particular. Get rid of it or them.


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    #764
    Super-Rush
    Registered Users Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    flirtychat wrote: »
    Why is flirting still allowed happen in threads. One or two posters in particular. Get rid of it or them.

    Its not.

    Who are you a re reg of?


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    #765
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,912 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    flirtychat wrote: »
    Why is flirting still allowed happen in threads. One or two posters in particular. Get rid of it or them.

    Examples or gtfo

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #766
    randylonghorn
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 29,509 Mod ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    flirtychat wrote: »
    Why is flirting still allowed happen in threads. One or two posters in particular. Get rid of it or them.

    What the hell has that to do with "gender issues in AH"
    Super-Rush wrote: »
    Who are you a re reg of?
    Indeed.


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    #767
    RDM_83 again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    mango salsa wrote: »
    Examples or gtfo

    I know this is off topic but I've always been confused about whats considered "flirting" on boards (and why the hell anybody would bother too do it!),

    Like is this (from thread I was literally just reading, not meaning to use mauzo in all my examples :o ) but is this 'flirting' or just banter?
    mauzo wrote: »
    Worked before :)
    Giselle wrote: »
    And posting that on this forum is a perfect way of going about getting it. ;)
    mauzo wrote: »
    I want sex.
    BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »
    Your my kind of woman. ;)

    edit: mods delete this if its going to make the thread go on a detour


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    #768
    Tombi!
    Registered Users Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    I think (could be and probably am wrong) the flirting to me is when it carries on.
    I mean if we had a topic about "last time getting hammered with photos!" and some woman posts a photos and a few of us lads say "ah go on ya beaut", that's not really flirting.

    But when the banter/off-topic/flirting goes and takes up a whole topic it can be a bit annoying.


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    #769
    Giselle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Giselle


    RDM_83 again wrote: »
    I know this is off topic but I've always been confused about whats considered "flirting" on boards (and why the hell anybody would bother too do it!),

    Like is this (from thread I was literally just reading, not meaning to use mauzo in all my examples :o ) but is this 'flirting' or just banter?

    I don't know why I was quoted in the middle of that (and chronologically the wrong way round), when my post was trying to make the point that saying the like of 'I want sex' in AH is a transparent way of bringing a storm of attention to yourself. Maybe I should have been less oblique.

    Some posters are one-trick-ponies in this regard, and it gets old.


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    #770
    RDM_83 again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Giselle wrote: »
    I don't know why I was quoted in the middle of that (and chronologically the wrong way round), when my post was trying to make the point that saying the like of 'I want sex' in AH is a transparent way of bringing a storm of attention to yourself. Maybe I should have been less oblique.

    Some posters are one-trick-ponies in this regard, and it gets old.

    Apologies for that, in a much less sleep deprived state your post makes perfect sense in that regard. I think I got confused by the smiley, for some reason that wink looks very cheeky too me where as I associate the :rolleyes: with the put downs etc.


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    #771
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    There is nothing wrong with flirting just don't do it in AH. Time and place.

    9/10 times it will be pulled up by a mod.


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    #772
    Giselle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Giselle


    RDM_83 again wrote: »
    Apologies for that, in a much less sleep deprived state your post makes perfect sense in that regard. I think I got confused by the smiley, for some reason that wink looks very cheeky too me where as I associate the :rolleyes: with the put downs etc.

    It's rare I can bring myself to use that rolleyes fella. Hate him!


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    #773
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    There is nothing wrong with flirting just don't do it in AH. Time and place.

    9/10 times you will be pulled by a mod.

    Fyp


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    #774
    Quorum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭Quorum


    The thing with thread flirting is that it gets tedious very quickly for anyone not directly involved in said flirting - so, pretty much everyone.


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    #775
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,912 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Quorum wrote: »
    The thing with thread flirting is that it gets tedious very quickly for anyone not directly involved in said flirting - so, pretty much everyone.

    OK but that has nothing to do with this thread

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #776
    Quorum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭Quorum


    mango salsa wrote: »
    OK but that has nothing to do with this thread

    Just thought I'd add that. It's another good reason for flirting not to happen.


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    #777
    Quorum
    Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭Quorum


    Thread killer. Sorry. :o


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    #778
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Quorum wrote: »
    Thread killer. Sorry. :o

    You should have blamed the flirting on the wimminz.


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    #779
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    A soon as a pedophile is mentioned, it's presumed to be a male....sexist?


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056744592


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    #780
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,859 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Boombastic wrote: »
    A soon as a pedophile is mentioned, it's presumed to be a male....sexist?


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056744592

    Not really. Prejudiced, yes, but not bigoted.


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    #781
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    This (and the subsequent posts by that individual) is the likes of what should be focused on IMO - not necessarily a reprimand but at least a request that such statements be supported. Oh and if calling the above stuff bitter is misandric... gtfo. It's bitter because it's bitter, not because it's written by a man. If a woman wrote similar stuff about men, it would also be bitter.
    It certainly should not be good-natured "Get back to the kitchen" type comments that get focused on IMO, which are only jokes - and vigilant policing of the likes of them is only going to create more bad feeling and work as ammunition for the "Women have it better derp" brigade.
    Boombastic wrote: »
    A soon as a pedophile is mentioned, it's presumed to be a male....sexist?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056744592

    Usually when a doctor or president is mentioned, it's assumed they're male; nurse, teacher - female (I include myself among those who make such assumptions) - sexist?
    It's just what we're used to - doesn't make it right but it's hardly intended to cause offence. Vast majority of known paedos are male, that's the reason why the default occurs. And you know that.


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