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10 shot dead at Batman showing in Denver

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    #1262
    Lord of the Bongs
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    JennyBurke101 wrote: »
    Yes well each to there own - but to be honest bringing a child to certian films that may be a little older from them isnt the worst thing a parent can do, especially if a child loves them (depending on the film) - plus Batman isn't a totally inappropriate film, its slightly dark but...isnt Batman against guns and killing? If someone brought there child to Anti-Christ I would consider that to be an inappropriate film, but I have seen many a child go into 12 and 15 films with parents to simply enjoy it (especially dad's and there sons)!

    Besides, I really hate the attitude of well why was a 6 year old in the film, that isnt the major issue, the major issue is a killer was there to KILL!

    See my above post the main issue is not that he did what he did its WHY he did it. Batman is full of guns and explosions, death and murder, it escapism but to younger people the fantasy can appear real and well, eventually lead a person to imitate it just as what actually happened.


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    #1263
    smash
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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    no, I wouldnt be bringing my 'child' to a totally inappropriate film, most of which they would not comprehend and end up with nightmares, at an ungodly hour when they should be at home in bed. but that just me.

    It's not an inappropriate film.


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    #1264
    Lord of the Bongs
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    MegGustaa wrote: »
    It's entirely possible that the six year old had seen the previous two movies in the trilogy, understood them and didn't get nightmares from them. I know a 7 year old child that got nightmares from Toy Story 3 and The Cat In The Hat, doesn't make those films inappropriate for all children.

    If this shooting had happened in a school or a restaurant or a library or a church you would not be questioning why a child was there. A mass shooting is a mass shooting no matter where it happens. People should be able to go to a safe public place and not expect to be a victim of mass murder. Six year olds shouldn't be shot, wherever they happen to be. It's so terribly unfortunate that those people happened to be there and that they had to die, but the fact is that they were there, for one reason or another, and they died for no good reason.

    Whenever you change the focus from the insanity of a person opening fire on members of the public (any where) to something as trivial as a parent's decision to bring their child to the cinema, you sound like you're trying to make it the parent's fault.

    Schools libraries dont open at 12 - midnight. You are all missing the point that unless there are certain boundaries, appropriate to the child, then they very well may end up becoming what this lad has become - a mass murderer. This guy didnt over night become this warped individual, but i would hazzard a guess that most of his childhood was sat in front of a video screen watching batman movies and playing GTA. Because the states is such a contry opsessed with guns is main reason it happens there so much


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    #1265
    MegGustaa
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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    you could also be of the persuasion that in some way this type of behaviour (bringing kids to inappropriate movies at inappropriate times) may have an adverse on the child later in life, in that they might become warped and go on a shooting spree.

    The main issue is WHY this guy did what he did and like it or not a large proportion of the blame lies with how he was brought up.

    Thousands of children will watch this film and similar ones this year. Millions of children have watched violent films and played violent games. They don't all go out and shoot people.

    Movies and video games don't cause shooting sprees. Mental instability and - importantly - access to weaponry, play a massive role in causing these events.

    You do also realise that one of Batman's big hangups is use of guns, right? I'm not sure of the specifics, but I think the idea is that because his parents were shot dead he never uses them. He also has a thing about actually killing people, too.


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    #1266
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    Violent games = big problem
    Violent movies = big problem
    Kids staying up late = big problem

    Buying guns over the internet = no bother


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    #1267
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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    you could also be of the persuasion that in some way this type of behaviour (bringing kids to inappropriate movies at inappropriate times) may have an adverse on the child later in life, in that they might become warped and go on a shooting spree.

    Not if you were a remotely rational human being...


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    #1268
    Mickeroo
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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    you could also be of the persuasion that in some way this type of behaviour (bringing kids to inappropriate movies at inappropriate times) may have an adverse on the child later in life, in that they might become warped and go on a shooting spree.

    staying up past your bedtime + superhero films = killing spree.

    There you have it folks.


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    #1269
    Lord of the Bongs
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    MegGustaa wrote: »
    Thousands of children will watch this film and similar ones this year. Millions of children have watched violent films and played violent games. They don't all go out and shoot people.

    Movies and video games don't cause shooting sprees. Mental instability and - importantly - access to weaponry, play a massive role in causing these events.

    You do also realise that one of Batman's big hangups is use of guns, right? I'm not sure of the specifics, but I think the idea is that because his parents were shot dead he never uses them. He also has a thing about actually killing people, too.


    Whether you can acknowledge it or not these films and video games are a real motivator in producing people who go on these killing sprees. Yes, thankfully it doesnt have the same effect on all people and its not the sole reason but taking this latest one as an example of how they do affect someones character, he was clearly influenced by the Joker, and presumably had be planning to do this on the opening of batmans 3rd film for ages. He could have killed someone in a library but choose this film and time are his target. Why do u think he did that?


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    #1270
    Mickeroo
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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    Why do u think he did that?

    he's insane.


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    #1271
    Lord of the Bongs
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    Mickeroo wrote: »
    staying up past your bedtime + superhero films = killing spree.

    There you have it folks.


    Do be soft and childish i never said that, i said it was/IS a contributing factor in this case and in many other simialr cases. Would u not agree or can u only make a joke about it?


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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    Why do u think he did that?

    Why don't you tell us seeing as you know so much about video games causing people to have psychotic episodes.


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    #1273
    Lord of the Bongs
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    Mickeroo wrote: »
    he's insane.

    right thats sums it all up in a small neat little package. not else needed to know eh?


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    #1274
    smash
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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    Whether you can acknowledge it or not these films and video games are a real motivator in producing people who go on these killing sprees.

    Maybe you should rephrase that to say that these films and video games may cause influence to an already damaged mind! They certainly do not producing damaged people.


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    #1275
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    smash wrote: »
    Maybe you should rephrase that say that these films and video games may cause influence to an already damaged mind! They certainly do not producing damaged people.

    That sort of thinking would be too mainstream for someone called Lord Of The Bongs.


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    #1276
    Lord of the Bongs
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    smash wrote: »
    Maybe you should rephrase that say that these films and video games may cause influence to an already damaged mind! They certainly do not producing damaged people.


    I would still rather say they have an influence rather than think they may have an fluence.


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    #1277
    Lord of the Bongs
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    RVP 11 wrote: »
    That sort of thinking would be too mainstream for someone called Lord Of The Bongs.


    U contributing an insult rather than debating is more laughable ;)


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    #1278
    Mickeroo
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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    I would still rather say they have an influence rather than think they may have an fluence.

    So you're saying you want them to have an influence rather than having any actual proof that they do?


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    #1279
    smash
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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    I would still rather say they have an influence rather than think they may have an fluence.
    You still said that they produce these people. That is 100% not true!


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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    U contributing an insult rather than debating is more laughable ;)
    Debating what?
    That you can get attention on a forum when you post an opinion full of hyperbole and bad taste.?
    Your opinion is only here for shock value.
    Well done., smoke another bong.:pac:


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    #1281
    Lord of the Bongs
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    smash wrote: »
    You still said that they produce these people. That is 100% not true!

    Where did i say that?


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    #1282
    Lord of the Bongs
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    RVP 11 wrote: »
    Debating what?
    That you can get attention on a forum when you post an opinion full of hyperbole and bad taste.?
    Your opinion is only here for shock value.
    Well done., smoke another bong.:pac:

    you opinion is only for here thanks and possibly trolling. My opinion is relevant to the topic.


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    #1283
    Mickeroo
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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    Where did i say that?

    Here:
    This guy didnt over night become this warped individual, but i would hazzard a guess that most of his childhood was sat in front of a video screen watching batman movies and playing GTA. Because the states is such a contry opsessed with guns is main reason it happens there so much

    well it certainly seems like you were suggesting it at any rate imho.


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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    you opinion is only for here thanks and possibly trolling. My opinion is relevant to the topic.

    You only registered to come into this thread to cause upset, i bet.
    Your opinion is relevant my arse, all you talk about is video games, kids staying up late and the fact that it makes them killers.
    Your posts are uneducated tripe, pure and simple.


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    #1285
    smash
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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    Where did i say that?
    here
    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    Whether you can acknowledge it or not these films and video games are a real motivator in producing people who go on these killing sprees.


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    #1286
    Lord of the Bongs
    Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭Lord of the Bongs


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    So you're saying you want them to have an influence rather than having any actual proof that they do?


    No i am saying THEY DO HAVE AN INFLEUNCE! FFS The guy dressed up and called himself THE JOKER! Hello 1+1=


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    #1287
    smash
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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    Hello 1+1=
    5 if I'm to go by your logic.


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    #1288
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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    No i am saying THEY DO HAVE AN INFLEUNCE! FFS The guy dressed up and called himself THE JOKER! Hello 1+1=

    Oh FFS this guy has cracked it!!:pac:
    So who would you blame? Heath Ledger or Jack Nicholson?
    :pac:


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    #1289
    Lord of the Bongs
    Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭Lord of the Bongs


    Originally Posted by Lord of the Bongs
    Whether you can acknowledge it or not these films and video games are a real motivator in producing people who go on these killing sprees.
    smash wrote: »
    here

    Ah yes u missed completely what I was saying. they are a real MOTIVATOR in producing people who go on these killing sprees. No i didnt mean they PRODUCE killers they (films) motivate and give them ideas. in this case murderous ideas. Im pretty sure this guy was repeating a scene from a batman comic were the a character goes on a killing spree in a cinema.


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    #1290
    Mickeroo
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    Lord of the Bongs wrote: »
    No i am saying THEY DO HAVE AN INFLEUNCE! FFS The guy dressed up and called himself THE JOKER! Hello 1+1=

    2. He didn't dress up like the joker for a start and when did he call himself the joker?

    How many other people watched the 4 year old film you're referring to and went out and killed because of it? Surely this would be a common occurence if these things are so influential? Or maybe, just maybe most people aren't so easily influenced and this guy wasn't right in the head?


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    #1291
    Lord of the Bongs
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    RVP 11 wrote: »
    Oh FFS this guy has cracked it!!:pac:
    So who would you blame? Heath Ledger or Jack Nicholson?
    :pac:

    always been partial to Jack :)


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