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Australia wants to cull great whites
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Well they're also found around both the western and eastern coast of USA. South Africa, South America and Nicaragua.
Also from Wikipedia
Yeah I said they are found in Australia, not exclusive to it!
Like rats are found here but aren't solely found here.
Dug myself out of that one nicely.. O_00 -
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Crocs have been protected since 1972 when hunting was banned.
Their populations have rebounded and they no longer seem afraid of humans which causes problems.
The freshwater croc population is in good shape and the salties aren't doing too bad either.
Of course salties in other countries like Indonesia and New Guinea aren't doing as well.
AFAIK they usually move the crocs around Cairns to croc farms out of the way of humans, much like they do with Polar bears up in Churchill in Canada.
BTW all feral cats in Australia should be culled since they are not native and are killing all the little native animals such as Bandicoot and Brush-tailed Bettong.
In fact one Aussie politican has suggest all cats should be removed from the continent.
(I don't think he will get many women voters)
Story is same with deer and possums in NZ.
In NZ they reckon there are 30 million possums after they were intially introduced in 1830s for their fur.
These have wreaked havoc on the environment and are not native to the country.
Likwise Grey squirrels and mink should be culled in Ireland.
So please use a bit of cop on before sounding off about culling animals.
Sometimes it is done to restore the natural balance and to protect other species.
Actually some people do stick their hands into snake pits.
More dangerous can be spiders who hide in your boots.
Eh thanks for that? While I'm sure you must be far smarter and more knowledgable than me you seem to have missed my point. I basically don't agree with a culling in the Great White Shark situation and feel the Australian government are far too quick to jump to this as a solution like they have in the past with other Animals.
You have provided some prime examples of how they have mismanaged in the past, Possums for fur not being controlled, Deer in NZ for example-disasters.(though it is an entirely different country.) They really need to be careful about this issue and explore the effects fully before jumping the gun.
If you take for example the attempt to control the native Cane Beetle population by introducing the Cane Toad from South America. Since their release, the toads have rapidly multiplied in population and now number over 200 million and have been known to spread diseases affecting local biodiversity. The introduction of the toads has not only caused large environmental detriment, but there is also no evidence that they have had an impact on the cane beetles they were introduced to predate.
Also what you're talking about are Introduced Species the Great White Shark is Native to those waters. A bit of cop on is indeed required when dealing with these matters.
Personally I like to think of people that stick their hands in snake pits to get their jollies as 'Natural Selection'
BTW what animal kills most Australians ? Ehhh that would be man.
I'm not sure we're talking about the same things here.0 -
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They're the greatest apex predator on the planet and I have to say I'm fascinated by them. Cutting their numbers would be so wrong in my opinion. Surfers can always go somewhere else!
Either that, or get some of that shark repellent that batman had in the old black and white movie
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Eh thanks for that? While I'm sure you must be far smarter and more knowledgable than me you seem to have missed my point. I basically don't agree with a culling in the Great White Shark situation and feel the Australian government are far too quick to jump to this as a solution like they have in the past with other Animals.
Now now no need to be condescending for being called up for making 2+2=5 just because in the past someone did the same.
And you don't get my point.
There was/is nothign wrong with culling feral cats.
It is a valid solution.
What would you have them do ?You have provided some prime examples of how they have mismanaged in the past, Possums for fur not being controlled, Deer in NZ for example-disasters.(though it is an entirely different country.) They really need to be careful about this issue and explore the effects fully before jumping the gun.
Yes they are prime examples of what happens when non native animals are introduced for one particular reasons only for them to escape into the wild where they have no natural predator.
But years down the road the introduction of culls for these animals are one of the best solutions.
We have the same problems with grey squirrels here and AFAIK culls have been discussed.
You seem to think that because generations ago people and authorities made mistakes in the introduction of animals, that now means that all other successive and current solutions are also going to be wrong.If you take for example the attempt to control the native Cane Beetle population by introducing the Cane Toad from South America. Since their release, the toads have rapidly multiplied in population and now number over 200 million and have been known to spread diseases affecting local biodiversity. The introduction of the toads has not only caused large environmental detriment, but there is also no evidence that they have had an impact on the cane beetles they were introduced to predate.
And your point is ??
Yes they fooked up back in the 30s, but that mean that if they found a way of now exterminating them that they would also be wrong ?
Have you ever been to Australia or New Zealand ?
If you have then you surely must have noticed how anal they are about the importation of animal and plant matter ?
Hell I have even seen the dirt on one guys golf shoes being examined.
I have even come across sign on Victoria, NSW border about carrying fruit that might have fruit flies in it.
Also what you're talking about are Introduced Species the Great White Shark is Native to those waters. A bit of cop on is indeed required when dealing with these matters.
Ehhh you were the one that dragged the culling of non native species into this with your comments about feral cats.
Have I anywhere said I agree with culling sharks ?
No I haven't.
I have just taken exception to your point about the Aussies always getting it wrong.Personally I like to think of people that stick their hands in snake pits to get their jollies as 'Natural Selection'
BTW what animal kills most Australians ? Ehhh that would be man.
I'm not sure we're talking about the same things here.
Think latterly, then horizontally and then vertically.
You'll eventually get there or else dizzy. 0 -
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