Clamped!

Stark

RoverJames wrote: »

No clamping in operation and people take the p1ss, that's why it's in operation.

There are options available such as car park barriers that don't mean people who didn't intend on taking the piss getting stung for the equivalent of a week's rent or 100 times the value of the "stolen" parking. It's just lazy business owners would prefer to go down the thuggery route for the sake of their own convenience.

Andy-Pandy

great thread, i read the first 33 pages and then skipped to the end, I presume the other 30 odd pages where more of the same and i didnt miss anything else.

Well done to all involved.

Stark

Stark wrote: »

There are options available such as car park barriers that don't mean people who didn't intend on taking the piss getting stung for the equivalent of a week's rent or 100 times the value of the "stolen" parking. It's just lazy business owners would prefer to go down the thuggery route for the sake of their own convenience.

Car park barriers aren't an option everywhere. There's a late night pharmacy near me, they have 4 to 6 spaces, there's a Chinese next door to them, a barrier wouldn't work at all. Parking is free for customers, signs up that non customers will get clamped. Whenever I visit that pharmacy I always get a space, great system.

No clamping signs up and the spaces would be full of p1sstakers me thinks.

Shane732

RoverJames wrote: »

Went nuclear?

I thought the clampers clamped his car after it had been there 20 mins? Which isn't surprising as there is a clamping policy in operation.

The Gardai were notified as it was thought that the clamp was being damaged.

No clamping in operation and people take the p1ss, that's why it's in operation.

Rover are you pro or anti clamping?

MugMugs

RoverJames wrote: »

Stark wrote: »

There are options available such as car park barriers that don't mean people who didn't intend on taking the piss getting stung for the equivalent of a week's rent or 100 times the value of the "stolen" parking. It's just lazy business owners would prefer to go down the thuggery route for the sake of their own convenience.

Car park barriers aren't an option everywhere. There's a late night pharmacy near me, they have 4 to 6 spaces, there's a Chinese next door to them, a barrier wouldn't work at all. Parking is free for customers, signs up that non customers will get clamped. Whenever I visit that pharmacy I always get a space, great system.

No clamping signs up and the spaces would be full of p1sstakers me thinks.

How do the clampers derive whom is a customer and who is not? Do the shops call it in?

Stark

There's a Chinese, a Londis, an Indian take away and a few other businesses down the road from me and no clamping and they manage fine. I'm sure people have parked in the spots in front on occasion and not bought anything but I'm not one to be bitter. There's no clamping in the Aldi or the pharmacy near by either and barring the occasional person I've seen park there and not buy anything, they don't have any problems.

MugMugs wrote:

How do the clampers derive whom is a customer and who is not? Do the shops call it in?

Presumably so. Which is probably somewhat better than the approach usually taken of giving the clampers the keys and saying "feast for yourselves lads" in that a customer who was clamped by mistake could ask the shop owner to release the clamp. I very rarely see people clamped when that system is in operation, usually because they're only looking out for people taking the mickey, rather than the clampers hanging around like vultures.

MugMugs

MugMugs wrote: »

How do the clampers derive whom is a customer and who is not? Do the shops call it in?

Not a clue. I only get Lemsips and what not in there

Damie

Shane732 wrote: »

Rover are you pro or anti clamping?

Pro argument tbf

dgt

Wow... Just wow. This is still going on

Edit: after 1000 posts! :eek:

hondasam

God Father wrote: »

NO I DIDN'T. Stop posting crap about me. I came back with change and bought a ticket.

hondasam wrote: »

Did you still buy the ticket even when you seen you were clamped?
How much is the car park?

Did you pay for the ticket ?

green123

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Keep trolling and I will ban the clamping apologist.

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Do not post further in this thread.

TestTransmission wrote: »

Anan1 can post away by the way everyone

obviously this was discussed behind the scenes and it was rightly overturned.

it seems to have been hushed up.

i hope anan got an apology, i think that there should be a public apology on this thread.

our man in havana should be the one who is banned for this sort of disgraceful behaviour.

shame on boards and the motors forum for having someone like that as a moderator

Squ

green123 wrote: »

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Keep trolling and I will ban the clamping apologist.

Our man in Havana wrote: »

Do not post further in this thread.

TestTransmission wrote: »

Anan1 can post away by the way everyone

obviously this was discussed behind the scenes and it was rightly overturned.

it seems to have been hushed up.

i hope anan got an apology, i think that there should be a public apology on this thread.

our man in havana should be the one who is banned for this sort of disgraceful behaviour.

shame on boards and the motors forum for having someone like that as a moderator

I reported the one sided moderation days ago, when he was initally singled out by mod and poster alike for having an alternate opinion. Never heard anything back..

TestTransmission

green123 wrote: »

obviously this was discussed behind the scenes and it was rightly overturned.

it seems to have been hushed up.

i hope anan got an apology, i think that there should be a public apology on this thread.

our man in havana should be the one who is banned for this sort of disgraceful behaviour.

shame on boards and the motors forum for having someone like that as a moderator

Squ wrote: »

I reported the one sided moderation days ago, when he was initally singled out by mod and poster alike for having an alternate opinion. Never heard anything back..

Lads, this really isn't the place to be discussing this.

Squ

TestTransmission wrote: »

Lads, this really isn't the place to be discussing this.

Sound.

Shane732

Shane732 wrote: »

Rover are you pro or anti clamping?

I think it works very well many situations as a deterrent to people taking the p1ss, much like any system there's for and against it. I have heard of many cases of clamping that I would consider unfair, I'm neither pro or anti clamping as that's a very generic question spanning too many situations. For example a friend lives across the road from a school, the students who drive used to park in her apartment complex, as with most complexes spaces are at a premium anyway, clamping introduced and problem solved.
In a similar fashion, I would answer the same if you had asked me was I pro or anti cars being towed away, despite having a car lifted twice.
To those short of a few brain cells that response will be misunderstood, I'm well aware of that but placating fxxxtards isn't high on my list of priorities.
It's all too easy to avoid having your car clamped or towed in the majority of cases.

Wossack

for future reference in these threads, I would ask that the OP lie, and say it only took him 15 mins to get change. That looks to be below the threshold for 40+ page rants

Jumpaddict

Its amazing how this place veers on one side of the argument for 25 pages then takes a drastic turn to the other side:D

Back to basics, the guy was clampled, don't care about the specifics, a few good natured(maybe) souls decided to help him out and remove it, saving the clamping fee....round of applause from me anyway...

Caseywhale

Caseywhale wrote: »

Using this thread as inspiration, just tonight I have 'phoned a friend', and removed the clamp from my car.
I'll phone the clampers tomorrow and tell them to come and collect it. I have locked my Iron gate to the clamp using my own lock. When they get here i'll hand them a bill for €90 to remove my gate from their clamp. Just like they do to your car. IF they dont pay it the clamp stays.

So I called them today. Q all sorts of threats about guards and managements companies and fines and what not.
End result. I gave them my address, told them €400 plus €100 per day for minding the clamp if they want it back, payable by cheque, by post.

I doubt i'll ever hear anything again.
I've put a note on my dash now outlining these charges for any object attached to my car. And a disclaimer saying "Loss or damage to any object attached to this car is responsibility of the idiot who attached it to the car".

I'm going into the hardware store to get me a bolt cutter tomorrow and just leave it in the boot.

Bruthal

RoverJames wrote: »

I thought the clampers clamped his car after it had been there 20 mins? Which isn't surprising as there is a clamping policy in operation.

I thought it was clamped sometime before the OP arrived back. How long it was before being actually clamped is probably unknown.

Anan1

robbie7730 wrote: »

I thought it was clamped sometime before the OP arrived back. How long it was before being actually clamped is probably unknown.

Unknown-ish:

God Father wrote: »

I bought ticket at 4:09 missed the clampers by minutes.

MaxSteele

Parking fares legal and illegal in city and town centers should be done away with. Car owners pay enough as it is with tax, VAT and insurance, never mind being charged just to park even though they're the ones who pump money by working and shopping in said places.

It's just another sly tax and an extortion scheme/money racket. The fact a shower of braindead wardens and enforcers too thick to be useful at anything productive, can make a living nosying around people's property and shafting them of hard earned money is ridiculous.

Bruthal

Anan1 wrote: »

Unknown-ish:

Do the clampers put a time of clamping on the car? Other than that, how would someone know they missed the clamper by minutes if they have been and gone.

Bruthal

MaxSteele wrote: »

Parking fares legal and illegal in city and town centers should be done away with. Car owners pay enough as it is with tax, VAT and insurance, never mind being charged just to park even though they're the ones who pump money by working and shopping in said places.

It's just another sly tax and an extortion scheme/money racket. The fact a shower of braindead wardens and enforcers too thick to be useful at anything productive, can make a living nosying around people's property and shafting them of hard earned money is ridiculous.

I wouldn`t think free parking in city centres would work out well.

Im guessing the pro clampers will also agree with a car being clamped if the owner is late back, having paid the fee for parking, but the ticket has run out?

Wexfordian

MaxSteele wrote: »

Parking fares legal and illegal in city and town centers should be done away with. Car owners pay enough as it is with tax, VAT and insurance, never mind being charged just to park even though they're the ones who pump money by working and shopping in said places.

It's just another sly tax and an extortion scheme/money racket. The fact a shower of braindead wardens and enforcers too thick to be useful at anything productive, can make a living nosying around people's property and shafting them of hard earned money is ridiculous.

Some retailers charge, some don't. Generally those that do, do so because they want only those with a reason to be there to park. Out of town centers where land is comparatively cheap and plentiful tend not to. You can also make the point that there are costs attached to providing parking (regulation and insurance being two), some retailers swallow it, some don't. Purpose built car parks only exist because they supply a revenue stream, daft to expect they would be built without it.

On street council parking is a slightly different matter but even so to call parking either a "sly tax" or and "extortion scheme" is daft. If you want a service, generally you pay for it. There is no obligation for a private sector to give it to you for free.

As a matter of interest, given your disdain for anyone involved in parking revenue collection (apparently not just clamping where you might have a point), what do you do for a living if you don't mind me asking?

MaxSteele

Wexfordian wrote: »

Some retailers charge, some don't. Generally those that do, do so because they want only those with a reason to be there to park. Out of town centers where land is comparatively cheap and plentiful tend not to. You can also make the point that there are costs attached to providing parking (regulation and insurance being two), some retailers swallow it, some don't. Purpose built car parks only exist because they supply a revenue stream, daft to expect they would be built without it.

On street council parking is a slightly different matter but even so to call parking either a "sly tax" or and "extortion scheme" is daft. If you want a service, generally you pay for it. There is no obligation for a private sector to give it to you for free.

As a matter of interest, given your disdain for anyone involved in parking revenue collection (apparently not just clamping where you might have a point), what do you do for a living if you don't mind me asking?

I'm talking about general street parking run by say the local council in maybe Naas town center for example. The vast majority of people who park there, do so to use the local services or work purposes. To charge them to park beside a curb or in a small white box is extortion IMO. That goes for city center parking blocks too.

I can understand private sector parking like a private and or public hospitals etc. or a retail outlet close to areas of dense groups of shoppers. But what happened to the OP is thuggish extortion I think.

I take the bus and get a lift every now and again, so parking is fairly irrelevant to me work wise.

Marcusm

MaxSteele wrote: »

I'm talking about general street parking run by say the local council in maybe Naas town center for example. The vast majority of people who park there, do so to use the local services or work purposes. To charge them to park beside a curb or in a small white box is extortion IMO. That goes for city center parking blocks too.

I can understand private sector parking like a private and or public hospitals etc. or a retail outlet close to areas of dense groups of shoppers. But what happened to the OP is thuggish extortion I think.

I take the bus and get a lift every now and again, so parking is fairly irrelevant to me work wise.

Where councils have introduced street parking, it's generally at the behest of local shops and businesses and is used to limit the time period for which people park rather than raise money. Keeping a limit of 2 hours means more people can access shops etc. otherwise the streets would be blocked all day. I'd doubt that many small towns make money from parking with costs etc.

Pawwed Rig

Caseywhale wrote: »

So I called them today. Q all sorts of threats about guards and managements companies and fines and what not.
End result. I gave them my address, told them €400 plus €100 per day for minding the clamp if they want it back, payable by cheque, by post.

I doubt i'll ever hear anything again.
I've put a note on my dash now outlining these charges for any object attached to my car. And a disclaimer saying "Loss or damage to any object attached to this car is responsibility of the idiot who attached it to the car".

I'm going into the hardware store to get me a bolt cutter tomorrow and just leave it in the boot.

Pics or it didn't happen!!!:D

Could you follow the clamp van around and then stick their own clamp onto their wheel when they are having lunch? Inform them if they damage your lock you will call the Guards

Anan1

robbie7730 wrote: »

Do the clampers put a time of clamping on the car? Other than that, how would someone know they missed the clamper by minutes if they have been and gone.

I've no idea, but the OP seems to know.

fasttalkerchat

robbie7730 wrote: »

Do the clampers put a time of clamping on the car? Other than that, how would someone know they missed the clamper by minutes if they have been and gone.

I got a parking ticket a few years ago and it had the time on it. I assume clamps would have to include a time and date with the documents.

senordingdong

robbie7730 wrote: »

Do the clampers put a time of clamping on the car? Other than that, how would someone know they missed the clamper by minutes if they have been and gone.

I know the council ones do but I don't think the private ones do.