Clamped!

God Father

I have been clamped in Naas by NCPS.

Feel screwed as was only gone up to the bank up the street to get money out and came back with change then to buy a ticket, but was clamped by then time I got back circa 20mins later.

I haven't got the money to pay it as I am a student, and currently searching for a Job.
Add to this that my parents are not in a position to pay it for me.

Mind you even if I had the money I don't think I would give it to the Vultures :mad:

So I plan on removing the clamp but want to ask what have people found to be the best way to do this?

I'm thinking angle grinder?

I have a friend who disassembled his suspension on his Van to get one off, took a few hours though

Cheers.

Mr Simpson

Do a quick forum search, there has been a few threads done on this already

As can been seen in this thread, a good bolt cutters will slice thorugh the lock in a few mins.

Mycroft H

Bolt cutters. Go rent one from a tool hire. Job done. Angle grinder will work too. Throw it in your boot and leave.

kildare.17hmr

What car ya got op?

God Father

Deleted User wrote: »

As can been seen in this thread, a good bolt cutters will slice thorugh the lock in a few mins.

The Lock looks chunky enough and has wrtiting on it saying "anti-cut" or something... But that might mean feck all..

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

What car ya got op?

3 Door Peugeot 207.

corktina

you have no gripe and no excuse to cut off the clamp. Sounds like you were clamped fair and square to me if you parked for 20 minutes where you shouldnt have.

charlemont

Travellers van's generally tend have bolt cutters inside so if you see one stop and ask for their help, Should be cheaper than paying those vultures anyway.

fasttalkerchat

I'm assuming that we're allowed to advise given that the thread is there from months ago.

Before cutting the lock buy a new lock as similar as possible to the original. This covers you in case anyone arrives during the job. When you remove their property from your vehicle call them and inform that one of their clamps was attached to your wheel, it is not removed and would they like you to leave it where you found it or should you leave it at the nearest Garda station lost and found for safe keeping.

Take many photos before and after, this will not just satisfy us but will also satisfy a judge that you did not damage their property.

If the company calls the Gardaí show that you have purchased a new lock and that you are willing to give your name and address for further correspondence and that you believe it to be a civil matter.

dgt

God Father

corktina wrote: »

you have no gripe and no excuse to cut off the clamp. Sounds like you were clamped fair and square to me if you parked for 20 minutes where you shouldnt have.

Rubbish I went to the bank to get money out.

How is it "fair and square" to clamp a car and charge an extortionate amount of money to release it? I went back to buy the ticket as soon as I could.

fasttalkerchat

corktina wrote: »

you have no gripe and no excuse to cut off the clamp. Sounds like you were clamped fair and square to me if you parked for 20 minutes where you shouldnt have.

To be fair its up to them to facilitate payment. If they didn't allow payment by text he had no option but to run to a bank machine and withdraw money, since all available spaces were pay parking he had no choice.

kirving

Whether he dererved to be clamped or not doesn't change the fact that it's illegal to interfere with a vehicle. Cut it off OP.

corktina

corktina wrote: »

you have no gripe and no excuse to cut off the clamp. Sounds like you were clamped fair and square to me if you parked for 20 minutes where you shouldnt have.

Just like the have no legal right to clamp, unless they are under contract with the council.

I bet if it was a garda car parked there, it wouldn't be clamped.

Anyway, thats another entire different thread (and has been done to death).

OP, yeah don't worry about that anti-cut crap. Get a good bolt cutters. It will take a good bit of force, but it will come off.

I like the idea of asking travellers to remove it, after all, you are only paying NCPS a removal fee, if you pay someone else to remove it, they can do nothing to you. And the travellers will take the clamp for scrap.

corktina

God Father wrote: »

Rubbish I went to the bank to get money out.

How is it "fair and square" to clamp a car and charge an extortionate amount of money to release it? I went back to buy the ticket as soon as I could.

its not rubbish. If you have to pay to park there, then you have to pay. How were NCPS to know you were gone 20 minutes for change? Best to get the chancge and THEN park.

corktina

corktina wrote: »

its not rubbish. If you have to pay to park there, then you have to pay. How were NCPS to know you were gone 20 minutes for change? Best to get the chancge and THEN park.

How is it possible to get the change without parking?

fasttalkerchat

Deleted User wrote: »

Just like the have no legal right to clamp, unless they are under contract with the council.

I bet if it was a garda car parked there, it wouldn't be clamped.

Anyway, thats another entire different thread (and has been done to death).

OP, yeah don't worry about that anti-cut crap. Get a good bolt cutters. It will take a good bit of force, but it will come off.

I like the idea of asking travellers to remove it, after all, you are only paying NCPS a removal fee, if you pay someone else to remove it, they can do nothing to you. And the travellers will take the clamp for scrap.

A few PSNI cars have been clamped up north.
Few photos from England: http://www.google.co.uk/search?sugexp=chrome,mod%3D10&q=cop+car+clamped&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=qbvgT470FOTT0QXk8MSIDQ&biw=1280&bih=699&sei=q7vgT4PaKo6T0QXeteSiDQ#um=1&hl=en&safe=off&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=cop+car+clamped&oq=cop+car+clamped&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_l=img.3...6302.8755.4.9014.9.8.0.0.0.1.124.689.7j1.8.0.cish.1.0.0.94lRyPxdGtY&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=4bd142cdab79878a&biw=1280&bih=699

Emergency vehicles are a guaranteed immediate payout!

Mycroft H

God Father wrote: »

The Lock looks chunky enough and has wrtiting on it saying "anti-cut" or something... But that might mean feck all..

Anti cut? lol..

Angle grinders, 20 seconds max. And if its a magical ant cut lock, the chain sure as hell isn't.

fasttalkerchat

corktina wrote: »

its not rubbish. If you have to pay to park there, then you have to pay. How were NCPS to know you were gone 20 minutes for change? Best to get the chancge and THEN park.

He would be in ever more trouble for stopping in the middle of a road or for parking on the kerb!

fasttalkerchat

God Father wrote: »

The Lock looks chunky enough and has wrtiting on it saying "anti-cut" or something... But that might mean feck all..

Probably resistant to manual lock cutters. Angle grinder should do it.

fasttalkerchat

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

A few PSNI cars have been clamped up north.
Few photos from England: http://www.google.co.uk/search?sugexp=chrome,mod%3D10&q=cop+car+clamped&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=qbvgT470FOTT0QXk8MSIDQ&biw=1280&bih=699&sei=q7vgT4PaKo6T0QXeteSiDQ#um=1&hl=en&safe=off&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=cop+car+clamped&oq=cop+car+clamped&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_l=img.3...6302.8755.4.9014.9.8.0.0.0.1.124.689.7j1.8.0.cish.1.0.0.94lRyPxdGtY&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=4bd142cdab79878a&biw=1280&bih=699

Emergency vehicles are a guaranteed immediate payout!

Thats probably because there is law about clamping in UK, I think.

Over here, there isn't. Therefore, if a garda car was clamped, and Guard could instruct the clamper to remove the clamp or face the possibility of a charge under section 9 Criminal Justice (Public Order) Act 1994 (and other legislation, I think).

God Father

corktina wrote: »

its not rubbish. If you have to pay to park there, then you have to pay. How were NCPS to know you were gone 20 minutes for change? Best to get the chancge and THEN park.

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pru3c/

:rolleyes:

Mycroft H

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Probably resistant to manual lock cutters. Angle grinder should do it.

There is not many locks that will withstand a decent a 42'' bolt cutter espicaially using the ground as leverage.. Extra thick boron steel ones will cause problems but will still cut.

Heroditas

20mins to take cash out at an ATM, get change and get back to the car?

kildare.17hmr

Red 08 one? Just drive passed and saw it. Wanna try take it off??

God Father

Heroditas wrote: »

20mins to take cash out at an ATM, get change and get back to the car?

No cash from a teller in the bank, up the other end of the highstreet.

CliM

Naas is a disaster to park in. I got clamped there last week-I had ticket on car until six. I came back late due to the torrential rain, i had stood in out of it. Gt back at 6.26 clamp on car. I paid it 90 e plus 5 e card charge, feeling the pain ever since. Can't really afford it but needed to get home. If I was to get clamped there again I would cut it off!! Total cowboy system

God Father

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Red 08 one? Just drive passed and saw it. Wanna try take it off??

That's the one Going to take it off alright, just need to source some bolt cutters. Have a guy in mind that might have some. Going to call him now.

BX 19

BX 19 wrote: »

There is not many locks that will withstand a decent a 42'' bolt cutter espicaially using the ground as leverage.. Extra thick boron steel ones will cause problems but will still cut.

And if a bolt cutters can't, for some bizarre reason, get through the lock, pay around €30 to a tool hire and, as mentioned earlier, get a con saw.

Will slice through any steel a clamper would use in literally seconds...

kildare.17hmr

God Father wrote: »

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Red 08 one? Just drive passed and saw it. Wanna try take it off??

That's the one Going to take it off alright, just need to source some bolt cutters. Have a guy in mind that might have some. Going to call him now.

Iv handed 3 clamps back to that fella, took em off without damaging them. Cracks me up every time

djimi

Where abouts you parked? If youre on main street then the clampers may be acting on behalf of the council which I believe is generally considered a no-no to try take the clamp off as they have the law behind them.

codrulz

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Iv handed 3 clamps back to that fella, took em off without damaging them. Cracks me up every time

how did You take them off? and what did he say?

Mycroft H

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Iv handed 3 clamps back to that fella, took em off without damaging them. Cracks me up every time

If you need some tools, I'll be round Naas in about an hour if your stuck...

kildare.17hmr

Easy to get off with the right tools. He just asks if i damaged it then says fair play

God Father

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Iv handed 3 clamps back to that fella, took em off without damaging them. Cracks me up every time

Haha nice one .

Did you use a bolt cutter? And when you say handed back do you literally mean it? Don't think I would like to deal with him after cutting the lock

kildare.17hmr

Want me to come down?

hi5

08, I thought you said you were a hard up student?

codrulz

DISREGARD

Briando

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Want me to come down?

Are you getting them off without cutting the chain/lock?

kildare.17hmr

Briando wrote: »

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Want me to come down?

Are you getting them off without cutting the chain/lock?

Yeah and givin them back to the clamper

fasttalkerchat

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Yeah and givin them back to the clamper

Bring a camera with you! I want to see this. Fair play for offering to help too.

Marcusm

djimi wrote: »

Where abouts you parked? If youre on main street then the clampers may be acting on behalf of the council which I believe is generally considered a no-no to try take the clamp off as they have the law behind them.

I don't think Naas Town Council operates a clamp system but rather a post pay ticket system.

Hashy Houdini

Fair play lads! hate seeing these assholes making money through clamping - can't believe they're still allowed to charge them ridiculous fees , tis high time this practise was stopped

kildare.17hmr

Marcusm wrote: »

I don't think Naas Town Council operates a clamp system but rather a post pay ticket system.

correct! No clamping done by thw council

kildare.17hmr

Well op we doin this???

Jesus Shaves

corktina wrote: »

Best to get the chancge and THEN park.

And the award for the silly statement of the day goes to.......

-Corkie-

Gets popcorn out...:)

Heroditas

codrulz wrote: »

hi5 wrote: »

08, I thought you said you were a hard up student?

with a lovely mummy and daddy!

Maybe they could pay the fine for him!

Guy:Incognito

Hashy Houdini wrote: »

tis high time this practise was stopped

It never would have started if people park properly and with consideration.

Instead, what happens when parking is free is people arrive and dump their cars where it suits and use town/city centres etc as park and rides or the people working there take the spaces for the day meaning theres no parking for anyone else.

darokane wrote: »

And the award for retarded statement of the day goes to.......

Why? I know its not relly in peoples nature to think before they rabble as soon as the subject of clamping comes up but I'm sure theres a petrol station in or around Naas or a local shop on the OP's way where change could be gotten.

Hashy Houdini

the punishment is disproportionate to the offense imo

God Father

hi5 wrote: »

08, I thought you said you were a hard up student?

Don't start me man. Drove a 97 clapped out corsa for 2 years.

I was in first year in UCC this year and travelled up every friday to work in a hotel in Dublin. That involved being up at 5am and travelling into the city centre working about a 10/11 hour shift on my feet as a waiter/stillroom attendant for minimum wage doing the same the next day before travelling back down sunday night to college exhausted with a week of college ahead of me.

I have a student loan I pay myself, pay my own tax, insurance, petrol, food etc.

I have had to hand over most of the money I ever had due to my families circumstances when my dad left.

My mam was in a position this year to reimburse me and I was able to get the car.

so please take your judgement elsewhere!

It is my pride and joy that car.