Unpopular wrestling opinions

gerrybbadd

Kolido wrote: »

Yeah I remember watching Royal Rumble 94 on I think it was call RTL
I'm sure I still have a recording of it on video tape at home somewhere.

I vaguely remember watching WCW PVPs on German channels also.

Ah!!! DSF - loved watching all the WCW PPVS on that. They used to have whole days of old PPVs on at Xmas as well

mrkiscool2

Watching 98/99 WWF on the network and the fact that HHH and The Rock became stars is a miracle due to how heavily SCSA was pushed. Deadly games ends with SCSA making a show of the new champion. Think people have rose-tinted glasses about him. He's a better talker than Cena but better pushed and worse wrestler than him. Can't believe I never saw this before.

CSF

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

Watching 98/99 WWF on the network and the fact that HHH and The Rock became stars is a miracle due to how heavily SCSA was pushed. Deadly games ends with SCSA making a show of the new champion. Think people have rose-tinted glasses about him. He's a better talker than Cena but better pushed and worse wrestler than him. Can't believe I never saw this before.

He was pretty much booked perfectly and played his character to perfection. The booking is usually what makes someone most of the time. Where would Bryan have gone if Orton hadn't cashed in at Summerslam for example? The booking fit the character perfectly and their only real mistake was that they didn't originally plan to have a payoff at Mania.

ERG89

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

Watching 98/99 WWF on the network and the fact that HHH and The Rock became stars is a miracle due to how heavily SCSA was pushed. Deadly games ends with SCSA making a show of the new champion. Think people have rose-tinted glasses about him. He's a better talker than Cena but better pushed and worse wrestler than him. Can't believe I never saw this before.

Austin really suffered in that period in terms of in ring as the SummerSlam 97 injury really affected him. In hindsight he was fuçking crazy to come back in just 3 months. I actually liked his heel style post XVII more than his earlier in ring work tbh.

Scavenger XIII

Yeah you have to remember Austin physically could not use most of his repertoire by the time he got really popular.

Sonics2k

I've gotten slack for this before, but I genuinely think that Triple H is one of the best performers and wrestlers in the company to date.

It's a bit more dodge since he got married to Steph, but back in the Attitude days and before he worked damn hard and always put on a great show and really made DX stand out.

Also:
Bret Hart is an overrated whiny man-baby.

montyrebel

^^^^ Found Hunters secret account

ERG89

Bret Hart has become more overrated since he (rightfully) criticised Rollins for smashing Cena's nose in.

thebostoncrab

Sonics2k wrote: »

I've gotten slack for this before, but I genuinely think that Triple H is one of the best performers and wrestlers in the company to date.

It's a bit more dodge since he got married to Steph, but back in the Attitude days and before he worked damn hard and always put on a great show and really made DX stand out.

Also:
Bret Hart is an overrated whiny man-baby.

I'll sing this until I can't sing anymore. HHH is easily one of the best American wrestlers of all time. Few people can match how much "big fight feel" he brings to his matches. Late 90s - early 00s he was the highlight of WWE to for me.

Kankan14

HHH was very good in ring. His selling in particular.

Saying Bret hart was overrated is ridiculous imo.

LeeJM

Bret Hart was overrated. Wouldnt be in my top 75 of all time, would probably make it into top 100.

ShagNastii

LeeJM wrote: »

Bret Hart was overrated. Wouldn't be in my top 75 of all time, would probably make it into top 100.

Ah come on now. I know we don't go by halves here in the IWC but that's a ludicrous statement. Try and actually write your top 75 and you'll struggle to excluded Bret. Would Hogan be in your top 200?:rolleyes:

LeeJM

ShagNastii wrote: »

Ah come on now. I know we don't go by halves here in the IWC but that's a ludicrous statement. Try and actually write your top 75 and you'll struggle to excluded Bret. Would Hogan be in your top 200?:rolleyes:

Hogan would most certainly be in my top 100 and most certainly higher than Hart. Top 75 without a struggle in no particular order ;

1. Shawn Michaels
2. Steve Austin
3. John Cena
4. Hulk Hogan
5. Ric Flair
6. Ricky Steamboat
7. Macho Man
8. Terry Funk
9. Jerry Lawler
10. Curt Hennig
11. Ted DiBiase
12. Rick Rude
13. Edge
14. Kurt Angle
15. Chris Jericho
16. HHH
17. Cesaro
18. Seth Rollins
19. CM Punk
20. Daniel Bryan
21. Rey Mysterio
22. Misawa
23. Kobashi
24. Samoa Joe
25. Jushin Thunder Liger
26. AJ Styles
27. Christian
28. DDP
29. Sting
30. William Regal
31. Eddie Guerrero
32. Brock Lesnar
33. Tenyru
34. Nakamura
35. Okada
36. Tanahashi
37. Stan Hanson
38. Kawada
39. Kerry Von Erich
40. RVD
41. Jerry Lynn
42. XPac
43. The Great Muta
44. Low Ki
45. Kenta/Hideo Itami
46. Finn Balor/Prince Devitt
47. Ricky Morton
48. Vader
49. Sabu
50. Roddy Piper
51. Tully Blanchard
52. Arn Anderson
53. Barry Windham
54. Mick Foley
55. Jeff Hardy
56. Matt Hardy
57. Dusty Rhodes
58. Goldust
59. Dynamite Kid
60. Austin Aries
61. Austin Idol
62. Bill Dundee
63. Jeff Jarrett
64. Bam Bam Bigelow
65. Tajiri
66. Jamie Noble
67. Raven
68. Carlos Colon
69. Bruiser Brody
70. LA Park/La Parka
71. Hayabusa
72. Jake Roberts
73. Undertaker
74. Owen Hart
75.The Rock

CSF

A list with no Val Venis is no list at all

Itssoeasy

This crap that trips only got to where he is because of marrying Steph isn't acurate. Him marrying Steph obviously kept him high up the card but trips is/was good enough to be in the main event.

When trips in in a match I knew the match was going to be a good standard.

sky88

I would rather watch a hhh match then a bret Hart match tbh.

now I think the both of them have had great matches but hhh to me was a better all round performer.

I've also seen bret criticise wrestlers for doing the same moves every match but every wrestler does this. it's one of the things that I always hated that cena got criticised for every wrestler has there 5 moves of doom

smilerf

LeeJM wrote: »

Bret Hart was overrated. Wouldnt be in my top 75 of all time, would probably make it into top 100.

I never liked him
Boring in ring and on Mic

the groutch

I'd rate him











































4/10

leggo

sky88 wrote: »

I would rather watch a hhh match then a bret Hart match tbh.

now I think the both of them have had great matches but hhh to me was a better all round performer.

I've also seen bret criticise wrestlers for doing the same moves every match but every wrestler does this. it's one of the things that I always hated that cena got criticised for every wrestler has there 5 moves of doom

The 5 moves of doom (even that phrase itself) originally came from Bret. It was his thing to set up the Sharpshooter.

CSF

Triple H was an unbelievable heel. But I never ever bought him as a passable face outside of DX. He just isn't an immediately likeable person and his style was just so much better suited to be a methodical sneaky heel in any case.

Sonics2k

CSF wrote: »

Triple H was an unbelievable heel. But I never ever bought him as a passable face outside of DX. He just isn't an immediately likeable person and his style was just so much better suited to be a methodical sneaky heel in any case.

I'd honestly put HHH's entrance in my top 3 of all Wrestlers. Alongside The Undertaker and Stone Cold.

I mean let's be honest, if you're walking down the street and The Game happens to come on on your MP3 player, you're gonna hench yourself up a bit and do that determined walk.

grames_bond

Sonics2k wrote: »

I mean let's be honest, if you're walking down the street and The Game happens to come on on your MP3 player, you're gonna hench yourself up a bit and do that determined walk.

EVERY.F*CKING.TIME!

CastorTroy

Then just at the right time, you go to cross the road, look left then right then spit water before crossing

gimmick

I honestly believe the only rewatchable HHH matches are gimmicked ones. Or where HBK dragged him through.

DEFTLEFTHAND

I thought he got a great match out of taker at WM27.

SureYWouldntYa

In pretty much all of HHH's best matches, he had a serious dance partner

Where he should be the guy, in matches against people like Reigns/Sheamus/Orton it was never as good as HBK/Taker

He was always a great opponent, he was always good if who he was facing was good/better

ShagNastii

Sonics2k wrote: »

I mean let's be honest, if you're walking down the street and The Game happens to come on on your MP3 player, you're gonna hench yourself up a bit and do that determined walk.

"Sir, could you please get off the table and put down that bottle of water. You have drenched all the other diners"

My girlfriend has yet to revoke the -NO IPODS IN RESTAURANTS- rule


Always thought Trips was the business. I think everybody does. Bar his reign of terror, where he became a pi**-poor Ric Flair tribute everything he has done has been well above par.

He probably wouldn't be where he is right now if he hadn't married Steph but there is no doubt from the day he arrived in the WWE, Vince and the company saw something special in him.

Am chuffed it looks like he will be a major part of WWE going forward. He understands all this "sports entertainment" and all that good stuff but he'll make sure WWE never forgets it is beyond it all a wrasslin' company and always will be.

CSF

I hope I'm not the only one who is far more of a My Time fan.

Robsweezie

Braden Walker changed the face of wrestling. And should be inducted into the Hall Of Fame.

Omackeral

Robsweezie wrote: »

Braden Walker changed the face of wrestling. And should be inducted into the Hall Of Fame.

Already in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsGU71cJ4no