** NBA2K12 Online Association League - Xbox 360 **

Paully D

Firstly, new members are more than welcome. If you want to sign up just read further down the thread for details on how to do so.

Now that we're up and running, this thread has been created under the advice of a couple of league members and has been approved by moderator Mr E.

This thread is to be used for arranging games, post match reports, trade blocks, general banter, any questions people may have, hints and tips etc. Basically it's a thread that will cover everything and anything to do with the league.

So far we have the following members confirmed as joining and taking the following teams (Xbox gamertag in brackets):

Paully D (LargeTacoFries) - Chicago Bulls
Buyer 95 (conoro127) - New York Knicks
NTMK (Keary90) - OKC Thunder
Felexicon (CopperFaceJacks) - LA Lakers
Liam O (LOK18) - Minnesota Timberwolves
Mikeyt086 (Mikeyt086) - Boston Celtics
Raze (pov77) - Milwaukee Bucks
Browning2010 (GoodManLads) - Miami Heat

There will be a fantasy draft to decide the rosters, this will take place on Wednesday 6th of June at 10:15pm and will be done in a serpentine format. This means the last pick in the first round will be the first pick in the second round and so on. The picks are determined randomly by the CPU so no one knows who will be what number pick until it starts. You have 90 seconds to make your pick and a budget of $90m to use for a total of 12 players. Free agency opens straight after the draft and is basically a free-for-all in which everyone can negotiate to a player and he makes his choice when the day advances. If anyone needs to see an example of a fantasy draft in action then see below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr4PZNdXdGU

New Members: As mentioned above, new members are more than welcome. Just post your gamertag and preferred team from the ones remaining and use the details which will be posted further down to join.

How To Join?:

Go to game modes, then online association, then join, then join private association. You'll be asked for a league name and password which are:

League Name: Boards
Password: boards2k12

It will then ask you which team you want to be, select the one you've chosen and then you're in and ready to go.

Next step is to wait for the draft as mentioned above (Wednesday 6th of June at 10:15pm) and then once that is over the games will start. You can set a draft priority list whilst you're waiting if you want.

Some Rules:

There will be no CPU trades as I've seen the annoyance it causes in other leagues. This includes both CPU to CPU trading, human to CPU trading and vice-versa. Any sort of trade with the CPU isn't allowed. Trading among fellow human teams is fine but there will be a trade deadline set which is set by the online association itself in line with the real NBA trade deadline.

If you are due to play another human player, it would be preferable if you post availability here on this thread. It's fairer than someone saying they've tried to contact via Xbox Live and haven't got a response. Feel free to contact through as many channels as you want (XBL, PM's etc) as long as you post here too. If 2 players can't find a suitable time to play their game then the game will be simmed by the CPU. Please remember the difficulties that people seem to be experiencing with advancements in online association. As it's the summer people will inevitably be off on holidays at stages too and won't be around to play games. There's an option to play a block of games at one time. In a lengthy season it would be difficult to expect a number of head-to-head games to be completed in order so this gives an opportunity to fit them in within a period of time so this is very helpful.

We are striving to be a sim league, that is to try to play as teams do in the NBA. If you wouldn't see it in the NBA, you probably shouldn’t be seeing it in these league games.

Disconnections etc do happen from time to time but you can only restart a game against the CPU once. If a person is persistently restarting games, banning from the league is possible. This is to avoid people constantly quitting out of games they are losing in order to try and win again.

Treat others how you wish to be treated. Don't run up the score to pad your stats. If people do this then players aren't going to stick around too long and the league as a whole will be worse off.

Above all it's the first time this is being done (that I'm aware of) so there will be a lot of trial and error, especially when experience 2K players are having trouble understanding some of things such as how days are advanced etc so that should be taken into account by all members.

Check in on the Madden forum to see how things are run there. It's a setup that would be great to recreate for NBA2K12 here (except the days advancements are different obviously due to games being played day-to-day in the NBA).

I think that's all for now. If I've forgot something or if anyone has any questions etc then feel free to ask.

Cheers lads!

raze

Nice one. Looking forward to this working out well.

Liam O

Just a few other rules that should be considered imo.

On ball defense imo is a must, you must control the player guarding the one with the ball unless you are looking to intercept or rotating a player over to him. No controlling just the center and letting the CPU do everything for you.

No whoring the superstars. Obviously they will have a huge percentage of your points but when the team has 30 points and he has 25 of them it's overdoing it imo and should be restricted a bit imo.

any thoughts?

Browning2010

Gamertag: GoodManLads

Prefered team: Miami Heat

raze

Liam O wrote: »

Just a few other rules that should be considered imo.

On ball defense imo is a must, you must control the player guarding the one with the ball unless you are looking to intercept or rotating a player over to him. No controlling just the center and letting the CPU do everything for you.

No whoring the superstars. Obviously they will have a huge percentage of your points but when the team has 30 points and he has 25 of them it's overdoing it imo and should be restricted a bit imo.

any thoughts?

I agree in principle with a 'don't be a dick' policy of play - but it's just a guideline. Apart from lead pass into the lane, what are you really going to do if someone hides in the low post on D? Unless there's an option to set the skill level to Pro or lower, in which case the CPU won't do anything particularly useful.

I do hope injuries and fatigue are a factor for OA - which might prevent people from just using superstars to drive the lane every possession.

Paully D

raze wrote: »

I agree in principle with a 'don't be a dick' policy of play - but it's just a guideline. Apart from lead pass into the lane, what are you really going to do if someone hides in the low post on D? Unless there's an option to set the skill level to Pro or lower, in which case the CPU won't do anything particularly useful.

I do hope injuries and fatigue are a factor for OA - which might prevent people from just using superstars to drive the lane every possession.

Injuries are on and fatigue is a factor in every other mode so I'd be surprised if it wasn't in online association.

Maybe it's just me but I find it virtually impossible to drive the line on every possession anyway. I had just come on to post that I find it much harder to do it this year than it was last year. I've been messing around with a few different teams today and I can't say there's been more than a couple of times that I've drove the line and scored easy points, but then again I am awful at the game and regularly lose to the CPU :pac:

raze

Paully D wrote: »

Maybe it's just me but I find it virtually impossible to drive the line on every possession anyway. I had just come on to post that I find it much harder to do it this year than it was last year. I've been messing around with a few different teams today and I can't say there's been more than a couple of times that I've drove the line and scored easy points, but then again I am awful at the game and regularly lose to the CPU :pac:

I too am awful at this game - I can defend well enough, right place right time for most stuff. I just can't convert enough on attack because I take what I'm given, rather than what I want.

The CPU doesn't give you much you can punish, in online games most players will be too eager and give you a path to the basket especially if you can run something from the playbook.

Liam O

Ok so there's a bit of a problem. I joined the league and when I tried to go back accidentally pressed quit this league instead of going through the menu and it wont let me back in now as you stupidly can't rejoin leagues...

Carroller

What happens if your not online for the draft?

raze

Carroller wrote: »

What happens if your not online for the draft?

You can set the order of which players are most important to you - so picks would probably be made automatically for you based on that. Just guessing though.

Results would be unpredictable though - I think 420 players get drafted in the selection.

buyer95

Looking forward to this now, i'm hoping for a top ten pick, I will probably take an elite point guard if i can get a top ten. I guess Lebron will go first, it will be interesting to see where Dwight goes, building a team around a centre is difficult in 2k12 in my opinion... This should be fun!

raze

buyer95 wrote: »

Looking forward to this now, i'm hoping for a top ten pick, I will probably take an elite point guard if i can get a top ten. I guess Lebron will go first, it will be interesting to see where Dwight goes, building a team around a centre is difficult in 2k12 in my opinion... This should be fun!

I'm kinda hoping for a low pick, 25 or later. With two bites of the cherry in the early rounds you could get two stars, while others are distracted by superstars. I'm actually thinking of going for two small forwards, starter and a bench if the circumstances are right in rounds one and two.

With an early pick you need to go elite because of the 40 selections before your next chance, despite the short gap between second and third rounds.

Paully D

Liam O wrote: »

Ok so there's a bit of a problem. I joined the league and when I tried to go back accidentally pressed quit this league instead of going through the menu and it wont let me back in now as you stupidly can't rejoin leagues...

The only solution here is to create a new league. I can't see why 2K12 don't let people re-join leagues, it's ridiculous.

OK, I've created a new league:

League Name: Boards
Password: boards2k12

Anyone in the other league might as well quit it to avoid confusion. I've deleted it now too so it might remove you all automatically.

Can everyone make sure that when they are exiting the online association mode from now on that they choose the ''logout'' option rather than the ''quit this league'' option!

Also, can everyone try and make sure that they are signed up before around 10pm on Wednesday the 6th if possible as it ensures that people won't miss the draft by rushing to sign up just before it starts. There was only 4 registered so far despite 8 putting their name down so just a reminder.

Those that are unavailable for the draft can set their draft priority list to ensure that the CPU drafts the player highest on the list that is available when their pick comes around. It's worth spending an hour on it in my opinion, as it ensures you'll have some players on your roster that fit your playing style, but it's entirely up to yourself.

Cheers

Mr E

OP updated.

Browning2010

OK so the game came today which was rapid considering I only ordered it on Friday.

I'll join up now and get a few practice games in.

Browning2010

Don't know how to join, is Association ID were you put in the password?

If that's the case it won't let me put in letters only numbers?

Felexicon

Browning2010 wrote: »

Don't know how to join, is Association ID were you put in the password?

If that's the case it won't let me put in letters only numbers?

No just leave that blank and press start.
Then it will get you to chose the league (it was the top one for me)
It then asks for the password

raze

Just about to join the new OA - but looking to change from the Bucks to the Indiana Pacers. Hope it's okay, they're not selected by anyone else.

Also, even though the original OA was deleted I could still view it yesterday when I quit from it. It seems it's still live, but the draft date is set back a month.

Might still cause some confusion.

Felexicon

raze wrote: »

Just about to join the new OA - but looking to change from the Bucks to the Indiana Pacers. Hope it's okay, they're not selected by anyone else.

Also, even though the original OA was deleted I could still view it yesterday when I quit from it. It seems it's still live, but the draft date is set back a month.

Might still cause some confusion.

It didn't show for me yesterday so it shouldn't cause confussion.
I have no problem with you changing teams

Paully D

No problem on the change of team Raze. The other association isn't showing for me, if it keeps showing for you go to options/load save/delete and delete the online association that DOESN'T have the code 934800 after it.

The following 3 people still have to sign up to the new association:

NTMK (Keary90) - OKC Thunder
Liam O (LOK18) - Minnesota Timberwolves
Mikeyt086 (Mikeyt086) - Boston Celtics

Remember lads the draft is tomorrow night at 10:15pm. I'll send PM's to those who haven't signed up now to remind them, although I don't think Mikey has his copy of the game yet.

Does everyone have an idea on how they're going to draft tomorrow then or are you just going to wing it?

Felexicon

I know who'd I like but so much depends on draft position.
I have one or two players I don't think people will go for.

I've started playing with a new camera angle now aswell which should help me

Paully D

Felexicon wrote: »

I know who'd I like but so much depends on draft position.
I have one or two players I don't think people will go for.

I've started playing with a new camera angle now aswell which should help me

Yeah same here, all depends on draft position really.

The camera angles can help a lot. I generally just used the broadcast one but I've been playing with a couple of different ones lately and quite like the 2K view, seems much better as you can see a lot more of the court which helps for running plays etc.

raze

As a perfect example of how much time I have to waste I've gone into single player to test drive the draft system three times now. My earlier plan of using two picks for SF was a terrible idea. Screw the bench, it's starters or bust.

I have noticed that Dwight goes first pick, so he won't be there if CPU goes first. And you're left with the dregs of point guards if you don't prioritise that position, even in the second round. You could get lucky and pick up Steve Nash, CPU doesn't like him. Nor Serge Ibaka - he sticks around as late as round 8 or 9 bizarrely.

No matter what - a first round superstar is more important than the player you might like. After the draft you'd be surprised how many options you can find to swap your all star centre for other positions.

Also the CPU overstocks on size, so it can be easy to find a Marc Gasol or similar by giving up your third and fourth choice shooting guards.

Mikeyt086

Just back from Amsterdam now and NBA 2K12 was waiting for me thank god, I'll be on for the draft later!

Paully D

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Just back from Amsterdam now and NBA 2K12 was waiting for me thank god, I'll be on for the draft later!

The draft is tomorrow mate, just so you know You must still be stoned from Amsterdam :pac:

Mikeyt086

No comment. :pac:

Paully D

raze wrote: »

As a perfect example of how much time I have to waste I've gone into single player to test drive the draft system three times now. My earlier plan of using two picks for SF was a terrible idea. Screw the bench, it's starters or bust.

I have noticed that Dwight goes first pick, so he won't be there if CPU goes first. And you're left with the dregs of point guards if you don't prioritise that position, even in the second round. You could get lucky and pick up Steve Nash, CPU doesn't like him. Nor Serge Ibaka - he sticks around as late as round 8 or 9 bizarrely.

No matter what - a first round superstar is more important than the player you might like. After the draft you'd be surprised how many options you can find to swap your all star centre for other positions.

Also the CPU overstocks on size, so it can be easy to find a Marc Gasol or similar by giving up your third and fourth choice shooting guards.

Interesting stuff mate, cheers for that.

I'd bet any money that LeBron will be the first player selected by a human (if any of us land near the top) although in saying that I have seen a few fantasy drafts where Dwight gets selected first by a human. However, I don't think there'll be many, if anyone, in our league who'll build their team around a C.

I'm looking forward to seeing what players people put on their trade blocks (if any) and what free agents are available after the draft has finished too.

Carroller

Just about to join this.. Noticed in the op the clerics are taken but there available when I join. Are they free or will I pick someone else?

Carroller

Or did I even join the right league?

Paully D

Carroller wrote: »

Just about to join this.. Noticed in the op the clerics are taken but there available when I join. Are they free or will I pick someone else?

You'll have to pick someone else mate. Mikey has the Celtics, he's signing up later.

League name is Boards and password is boards2k12.

Mikeyt086

Not sure if you're in the right league or not, but I picked the Celtics and haven't had a chance to join the Online Association until now, which is why they are available on 2k12.

EDIT:

You took the Celtics.



Guess I'll take... Golden State Warriors?

Liam O

I reckon if anyone misses the draft or we have people joining late they should be able to trade with the CPU teams to even it up. No draft picks or anything and all trades must be approved by the people in this thread too. Just an idea, am gonna sign up now...

Paully D

Liam O wrote: »

I reckon if anyone misses the draft or we have people joining late they should be able to trade with the CPU teams to even it up. No draft picks or anything and all trades must be approved by the people in this thread too. Just an idea, am gonna sign up now...

Nope, there's no trading with the CPU under any circumstances.

If someone misses the draft (and haven't already selected their team as you can't join and re-join thanks to the geniuses at 2K) or is joining late then they can have a look at the rosters of the remaining teams and choose which one they want, but CPU trading isn't going to happen.

Liam O

Paully D wrote: »

Nope, there's no trading with the CPU under any circumstances.

If someone misses the draft (and haven't already selected their team as you can't join and re-join thanks to the geniuses at 2K) or is joining late then they can have a look at the rosters of the remaining teams and choose which one they want, but CPU trading isn't going to happen.

It's just when the CPU drafts for you a lot of the time you wind up with like 5 or 6 players in one position and none in another. It would be a major handicap to anyone who misses out. Maybe just cap it that they can't trade for anyone over 80 or something?

Browning2010

Is there anyone who reckons they won't be around for the draft?

Yous all seem quite active so far, I'm mentally preparing myself for getting the wooden spoon in this league:):)

Paully D

Browning2010 wrote: »

Is there anyone who reckons they won't be around for the draft?

Yous all seem quite active so far, I'm mentally preparing myself for getting the wooden spoon in this league:):)

You'll have a bit of competition from me for the wooden spoon anyway :pac:

Carroller

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Not sure if you're in the right league or not, but I picked the Celtics and haven't had a chance to join the Online Association until now, which is why they are available on 2k12.

EDIT:

You took the Celtics.



Guess I'll take... Golden State Warriors?

Ah damit sorry man I thought with you being active in the forum today that you probably just picked a different team.. Anyway I can change ?

Mikeyt086

Nah no worries, I've picked the Toronto Raptors for their excellent uniform, although a Celtics fan, the uniforms and home courts are the only things that matter in a fantasy draft.

Felexicon

If anyone steals my secret weapon tonight I'm gonna be pissed

buyer95

Felexicon wrote: »

If anyone steals my secret weapon tonight I'm gonna be pissed

I have gone over a few possible situations, and have even made a list of my preferred players to take at each position. Looking forward to this now!:D

Felexicon

I think i want a pick between 10 and 15 in the first round. two decent players without a superstar will be nice. I need a good big man.

Paully D

I'm sure everyone knows at this stage, but just a reminder again, the draft starts tonight at 10:15pm.

Unfortunately it's a bit late for me to be able to have my mic on due to people being asleep etc at that time, but I've set up a chat room if anyone wants to use it? We used it during the Madden draft and it worked really well:

http://tinychat.com/cmc3f

I just sign in as a guest and change my name to my Boards username.

Looking forward to it now. Just doing a bit of scouting here at the minute

Mikeyt086

lol I'm so bad at NBA 2K12.

Going into the draft with no plan, gonna take what's given to me.

Felexicon

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

lol I'm so bad at NBA 2K12.

Going into the draft with no plan, gonna take what's given to me.

Don't worry I'm fairly **** aswell

Browning2010

Looking forward to this now lads should be a bit of craic....

I'm loving the game so far I'm hopeless at it but still loving it....

Mikeyt086

Felexicon wrote: »

Don't worry I'm fairly **** aswell

Yeah I think it should be great craic as most of us will be learning as we play. I reckon there is some bastard who's been playing all year and will walk it though :pac:

buyer95

Whats the story with human trades? Do they have to get approval here first or was that idea dropped?

Paully D

buyer95 wrote: »

Whats the story with human trades? Do they have to get approval here first or was that idea dropped?

Nope, no need for approval. It's up to the two people to come to an arrangement. However, if someone isn't really sure then it's fine for them to ask advice on whether they should go through with the trade or not.

I'd hope that considering it's a social league for a bit of craic that people won't try and rip other players off but as I said above it's fine for people to ask advice if they aren't sure on what to do.

Liam O

Unsure whether I'd prefer an early or late pick at this stage. You wont get an elite player with the 30th pick but you'll get 2 players of very high quality and maybe one great player will slip through to you. Having multiple threats is great for this game, however Lebron can win games on his own...

Paully D

Liam O wrote: »

Unsure whether I'd prefer an early or late pick at this stage. You wont get an elite player with the 30th pick but you'll get 2 players of very high quality and maybe one great player will slip through to you. Having multiple threats is great for this game, however Lebron can win games on his own...

Thinking the same now to be honest. Think I'm leaning towards being near the middle/end of the draft. That said, I won't refuse a top 5 pick :pac: As you mentioned, LeBron can win games on his own and Kobe, D Wade, Durant, Rose etc can do it too.

Paully D

Just a reminder that there's a chat room for the draft if anyone wants to use it:

http://tinychat.com/cmc3f