Cyberpunk - CD Project Red

froog

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Am I so out of touch that a company mandating staff to work six-day weeks is not a great look?

No. It’s the journalist who is wrong.

from what i've read of the big money gaming development industry, working crazy hours and to mad deadlines is the norm.

EoinMcLovin

Leaked physical map


And postcards

Markitron

Really like that map, it's not too big which will help the city feel really dense.

froog

Markitron wrote: »

Really like that map, it's not too big which will help the city feel really dense.

hopefully a lot of verticality.

Markitron

froog wrote: »

hopefully a lot of verticality.

Exactly.

Sephiroth_dude

I hope that's not the entire map.

Sephiroth_dude

Game has gone gold

https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1313067011455569921

johnny_ultimate

I hope it is the entire map Open worlds have become so sprawling that it’s hard to get to know the spaces in the same way you can in more focused games, or even early open world games. Personally I always feel my connection with the world is far stronger when I can really get to know the streets, the spaces etc...

While I got to know some spaces fairly well in Witcher 3, others kinda whizzed by due to the sheer size of the map. Whereas in something like Outer Wilds - a fairly big game! - I got to know every route and path pretty damn well. There’s a nice middle ground between those two games for really big games, so hope this finds that balance.

Cordell

It looks big enough and dense - the map in Witcher 3 may be bigger, but there is a lot of empty space, and a lot of filler activities like cleanup this small settlement, cleanup this nest and so on. I'd rather have again open world games that doesn't require fast travel to be able to play them other than 10% game time 90% travel.

Zero-Cool

I wonder what's going on in the bottom left of the map

Markitron

Zero-Cool wrote: »

I wonder what's going on in the bottom left of the map

My guess is its a load of solar panels that power the city or something.

Edit: Yep solar panels

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-10-05-heres-the-full-map-of-cyberpunk-2077s-night-city

Zero-Cool

Markitron wrote: »

My guess is its a load of solar panels that power the city or something.

Edit: Yep solar panels

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-10-05-heres-the-full-map-of-cyberpunk-2077s-night-city

Nice.

Homelander

I think the map size is great considering it's a dense/concentrated, living and breathing city. Other games have huge open expanses in between varying size settlements or notable locations and usually require fast travel to be tolerable.

Which is great too, but this is a very different kind of open world experience. Looking forward to getting to explore and familiarize myself with a huge and richly detailed virtual city almost as you'd do in real life.

OptimusTractor

Markitron wrote: »

My guess is its a load of solar panels that power the city or something.

Edit: Yep solar panels

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-10-05-heres-the-full-map-of-cyberpunk-2077s-night-city

He who controls the solar panels controls the world.

smitt

Hello everyone. I am new here. I like games and I am a big fan of Cyberpunk.

Varik

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Nice.

Near the bottom right that looks like concentrated solar, either incinerator or power. As this is fake California then I'd say power.

Seen in the official site that the bottom left is the BIOTECHNICA FARMS, so a load of green houses.

cnocbui

OptimusTractor wrote: »

He who controls the solar panels controls the world.

Not when you can just go buy an off the shelf, factory made, nuclear reactor. And it will even work at night.

Cordell

Actually California is the number one agricultural state, and that's by almost twice as much as the second place:https://beef2live.com/story-states-produce-food-value-0-107252

Retr0gamer

I'd much prefer quality concentrated into a well designed map rather than a sprawl.

There's a reason Vice City is better than San Andreas.

Zero-Cool

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'd much prefer quality concentrated into a well designed map rather than a sprawl.

There's a reason Vice City is better than San Andreas.

Vice City was awesome but San Andreas map was epic traveling from ghetto to mountains to san fran to vegas, just class.

Any time a game claims 'biggest map ever' throws up a red flag. Fallout 4 did that and that was a shyte map. Companies love being able to say they have the biggest map but don't flesh it out. I'm all for smaller concentrated ones.

Homelander

I'm pretty sure Fallout 4 never claimed to be the biggest map? In fact I think its smaller than its own predecessors, just a bit more dense. Thought it was a great world map myself to be honest.

EoinMcLovin

Homelander wrote: »

I'm pretty sure Fallout 4 never claimed to be the biggest map? In fact I think its smaller than its own predecessors, just a bit more dense. Thought it was a great world map myself to be honest.

Biggest game map is No Man's Sky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TwjUk4ReZo

McFly85

It’s hard to gauge off these, but the map size will invariably be grand. Every time a big open world game comes out there’s some worry that the map is too small but it never is. Much worse for it to be too bug with large empty spaces just for the sake of it.

Cordell

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Biggest game map is No Man's Sky

And Skyrim is just a tad bigger than Mafia 1. I played them both recently and I would have never guessed that.

Markitron

Yea I never had a problem with the maps or layouts in Bethesda's games, they were always just right, more or less.

Come to think of it, it is mostly just Ubisoft that have been ****ing up open-world maps. They have no idea how to use space effectively. They have large maps, which by itself is fine, but they don't have the balls to let an open space be empty. If they could resist the urge to fill their maps up with filler nonsense, they would be a lot better.

Cordell

Witcher 3 had the same issue with filler locations, especially those smuggler caches in the Skellige.

Markitron

Cordell wrote: »

Witcher 3 had the same issue with filler locations, especially those smuggler caches in the Skellige.

TW3 used its space a whole lot better than AC though, yes there were your standard copy and paste caches/nests/bandit camps etc, but there was always a great chance you would stumble upon an interesting side quest or treasure hunt. There were so many random places in the game that also told an interesting story through the environment, when you went through a ruined castle you could almost piece together whatever horrible thing happened there.

On top of all this, the world was more vibrant and alive than your average AC.

recyclops

assassin creed odyssey is just infuriatingly large with galloping back and forth, ubisoft just dont do exploring well now filler they can do in abundance. its why i stopped odyssey i just didnt care anymore

Markitron

recyclops wrote: »

assassin creed odyssey is just infuriatingly large with galloping back and forth, ubisoft just dont do exploring well now filler they can do in abundance. its why i stopped odyssey i just didnt care anymore

Odyssey needed less side content and more time spent on the main questlines. I enjoyed the game but the actual mission design was horribly repetitive. It was basically 'go here, talk to this person, kill a bunch of people' or 'go here, kill a bunch of people, talk to this person'. Every now and again, if you were lucky, they would mix it up with 'kill a bunch of people, talk to this person, go here'.

I appreciate the fact that they tried to make exploring more interesting by not telling you exactly where to go, but then they ruined that by having a gigantic text box telling you to switch to your eagle to put a waypoint showing you exactly where to go