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Possible predictions of false flag spectaculars at London's 2012 Olympics.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Are you predicting a terrorist spectacular like RTDH Daithí? Because this is the sort of thing we can actually look back on afterwards to see if predictions were correct...
    I am fairly new to this forum, but, what if there is an actual terrorist attack?

    Clearly it would be a fantastic target, or to the CT people work on the assumption that there is no actual terrorism...?

    MrP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    You will have a lot of explaining to do if there isn't a terrorist spectacular at the Olympics, won't you? ;)

    Well all that can be said is that RTDH expects something to happen at some point in the future, so he can't be wrong really. :rolleyes:

    After posing the question to him many, many times he refuses to give an answer as to what he actually thinks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    MrPudding wrote: »

    or to the CT people work on the assumption that there is no actual terrorism...?

    MrP

    That's a very interesting question. I'd be interested to know what the hardcore CT'ers consider to be the most recent legitimate big terrorist attack


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    al28283 wrote: »
    That's a very interesting question. I'd be interested to know what the hardcore CT'ers consider to be the most recent legitimate big terrorist attack

    I would guess the Houla massacre.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    I would guess the Houla massacre.

    and what is your reason for not thinking it was the Syrian governmemt?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    al28283 wrote: »
    and what is your reason for not thinking it was the Syrian governmemt?

    They couldn't even get the propaganda right. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283



    who exactly? the BBC? now responsible for the propaganda for the entire western world, including the UN? even with the mention on that very article that they couldnt confirm if that picture was legit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    al28283 wrote: »
    That's a very interesting question. I'd be interested to know what the hardcore CT'ers consider to be the most recent legitimate big terrorist attack

    The more hardcore CTers generally believe that any attack against "Western" targets is typically a false flag, but will generally ignore any non-Western attacks, e.g. Mumbai, Pakistan.

    911 is the main focus, then London, Madrid, and so on depending on how strong their belief is.

    The modus operandi among these guys is to analyse an attack or event, find discrepancies, anomolies, coincidences and combine with selective misreporting, dodgy science, "expert" information, hearsay, embellisment, conjecture and just plain bull**** to formulate a "case" that indicates that the event was a "false flag" or an inside job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    The more hardcore CTers generally believe that any attack against "Western" targets is typically a false flag, but will generally ignore any non-Western attacks, e.g. Mumbai, Pakistan.
    Anything under the guise of "Al Queda" is Western false flag propagated.

    Bali, Mumbai, Madrid, etc.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Anything under the guise of "Al Queda" is Western false flag propagated.

    Bali, Mumbai, Madrid, etc.
    You don't think that it's possible that local terrorist groups are buying into the Al Qaeda brand at all? They can see through it like Alex Jones does? Perhaps they are fans of his?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Report: Al-Qaida planning to crash U.S. airline during London Olympics

    "According to the Sunday Times, a Norwegian who was trained in Yemen plans to crash the plane on a suicide mission; British authorities say there is a shortage of personnel to carry out proper security screenings".

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/report-al-qaida-planning-to-crash-u-s-airline-during-london-olympics-1.448036


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Report: Al-Qaida planning to crash U.S. airline during London Olympics

    "According to the Sunday Times, a Norwegian who was trained in Yemen plans to crash the plane on a suicide mission; British authorities say there is a shortage of personnel to carry out proper security screenings".

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/report-al-qaida-planning-to-crash-u-s-airline-during-london-olympics-1.448036
    Another false-flag attack averted!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    Occult stuff, might be of interest to few you..

    http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/107343/2012_London_Olympics_STAY_THE_F_AWAY/


    *Illoomey Nati :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Another false-flag attack averted!

    Thank god someone is out there stopping all these false flags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    Who ever came up with the term "False Flag" anyway. Everyone knows they don't exist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭Extinction


    Daithi 1 wrote: »
    Who ever came up with the term "False Flag" anyway. Everyone knows they don't exist.

    The term comes from the old days of wooden ships, when one ship would hang the flag of its enemy before attacking another ship in its own navy. Because the enemy's flag was hung instead of the flag of the real country of the attacking ship, it was called a "false flag" attack.

    http://www.wanttoknow.info/falseflag


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    Extinction wrote: »
    The term comes from the old days of wooden ships, when one ship would hang the flag of its enemy before attacking another ship in its own navy. Because the enemy's flag was hung instead of the flag of the real country of the attacking ship, it was called a "false flag" attack.

    http://www.wanttoknow.info/falseflag


    So they do exist ?? :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭Extinction


    Daithi 1 wrote: »
    So they do exist ?? :eek:

    Well they did but that was a long time ago, if we see wooden ships sailing up the thames to carry out an attack we will know that they still exist. We'll definately be suggesting a conspiracy if they manage to make it past the heightened security :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    Extinction wrote: »
    Well they did but that was a long time ago, if we see wooden ships sailing up the thames to carry out an attack we will know that they still exist. We'll definately be suggesting a conspiracy if they manage to make it past the heightened security :D

    Maybe they have evolved somewhat since then.

    Like the operation Northwoods proposals. People high up in the establishment planning attacks inside the the US, for example. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    The topic is getting mainstream, hopefully they will call it off now. :)

    "False flags and conspiracy theories soaring above London Olympic stadium".

    http://www.examiner.com/article/false-flags-and-conspiracy-theories-soaring-above-london-olympic-stadium


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    I'd rather they carried it out. Nothing ever happens.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    The topic is getting mainstream, hopefully they will call it off now. :)

    "False flags and conspiracy theories soaring above London Olympic stadium".

    http://www.examiner.com/article/false-flags-and-conspiracy-theories-soaring-above-london-olympic-stadium
    Great way for you to explain the lack of a terrorist attack in advance.... If one occurred you could claim it was a false flag if none occurred it's because they changed their minds....RTDH can never be wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭Danye


    Excuse my ignorance but what is a false flag? Who uses this false flag?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    Danye wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance

    No.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Extinction wrote: »
    The term comes from the old days of wooden ships, when one ship would hang the flag of its enemy before attacking another ship in its own navy. Because the enemy's flag was hung instead of the flag of the real country of the attacking ship, it was called a "false flag" attack.

    http://www.wanttoknow.info/falseflag
    Um...I don't think that explanation is accurate. It seems a lot more likely (and this actually did happen all the time) that a - say - British ship would fly a Spanish or French flag when it saw a French ship in the distance, hoping that they could launch a surprise attack or avoid being chased by the French ship (depending on each ship's disposition).

    I doubt it ever happened that a ship would attack another ship in the same navy that hadn't mutinied or something.. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    BBC's up and coming documentary about "UFO Invasion At Olympics 2012 Is Y2K-Style Hysteria"



    "The BBC is focusing its new documentary about "conspiracy theorists" around the premise that aliens will invade London during the Olympics. This entire meme is clearly being pushed by the establishment to discredit the truth movement".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    "The BBC is focusing its new documentary about "conspiracy theorists" around the premise that aliens will invade London during the Olympics. This entire meme is clearly being pushed by the establishment to discredit the truth movement".
    I don't think the BBC needs to lift a finger, the 'Truth Movement' discredits itself every single day. :)

    So this guy is saying there definitely WON'T be anything going on at the Olympics? His point is hopelessly confusing. He also says that the security is deliberately lax - is he arguing that they know there will be no attack? Or is he saying there definitely will be an attack, facilitated by the lax security?

    Basically, whatever happens, he will claim to have been correct afterwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    An interesting article about the London 2012 CT here in the Guardian. This sounds familiar:
    The evidence for such a plot is vague: exhibit A is the 2012 Olympic logo. Rearrange the four angular numerals of the bizarre design, the theorists say, and it really spells "zion". There's even a dot to go over the "i". This is a sign that "they" plan to build the new Jerusalem right here in England's green and pleasant land, just as William Blake's poem predicted. The "dark satanic mills" of the Lea Valley will become the epicentre of the New World Order. Conspiracy theorists insist there is nothing anti-semitic in their use of the word "zion", although the suspicion is there.

    The next giveaway is the street names around the Olympic site: Great Eastern Road, Carpenter's Road, Angel Lane, Temple Mills Lane, Church Road – don't they all seem a little biblical? Isn't it strange that such a large patch of land has stood undeveloped in London all this time?

    <snip>
    "Once your eyes are open to it, it's amazing what's hidden in plain sight," explains David (not his real name), the friend of a friend who first told me about the London plot a year ago. So in the name of curiosity, and, perhaps, the future of civilisation, we arranged to meet at the Olympics site to look for evidence. You can't get into the site itself – construction continues apace and security is tight – but there are daily guided tours of the perimeter. On a clear, chilly morning, as we wait outside Tesco for the tour to begin, David explains how most of the clouds in the sky are now man-made. Aeroplanes have been lacing the atmosphere with metal particulates for decades to facilitate holographic projection, he claims. That's how they'll pull off the UFO illusion. These "chemtrails" also enable the use of top-secret super-weapons that bounce energy off the upper atmosphere to remote locations. The Haiti earthquake was triggered this way.

    David spends hours scouring the internet for conspiracy information, and stumbled on the Olympics plot theory two years ago on a blog called the Cosmic Mind, run by 28-year-old Rik Clay from Leeds. Clay was making a name for himself in these esoteric circles. As well as the Olympics, his blog discussed everything from the significance of the No 11 to crop circles to Princess Diana. But three months after the Cosmic Mind launched, it suddenly went down in August 2008. Clay had died. Internet forums were full of wild allegations about the cause of his death.

    As the tour proceeds, David's eyebrows rise at certain points, such as when the guide explains how they had to reroute power lines crossing the site 30 metres underground. "There's bound to be a secret network of tunnels so that dignitaries can escape when it happens," David says. Had the guide ever seen anything paranormal going on here? "What, you mean like flying saucers? No, nothing like that," she laughs. David's eyebrows rise again. No one mentioned flying saucers. The vast construction site looks fairly innocuous to me. David isn't so sure. "What about that cross in the sky up there?" he says. Two short fragments of aeroplane contrail have formed a distinct cross in the sky directly over the stadium. That is good enough for him.

    The article goes on to make the point that this CT is interesting because - unlike most CTs - it actually makes a prediction about future events. Of course, I'm sure there will be a rationalisation afterwards when nothing happens, and as I've pointed out above the extreme CT community will claim to be right if there is a terrorist attack/alien invasion ("FALSE FLAG! We told you!") and they will also claim to be right if nothing happens at all ("they were trying to make the public feel insecure, get soldiers on the streets" or whatever).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭Danye


    Daithi 1 wrote: »
    No.

    And why not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    Danye wrote: »
    And why not?


    Coz it was explained approx 4 posts previously. And it's on google. Twas simply to ignorant of excuse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    An interesting article about the London 2012 CT here in the Guardian. This sounds familiar:


    <snip>



    The article goes on to make the point that this CT is interesting because - unlike most CTs - it actually makes a prediction about future events. Of course, I'm sure there will be a rationalisation afterwards when nothing happens, and as I've pointed out above the extreme CT community will claim to be right if there is a terrorist attack/alien invasion ("FALSE FLAG! We told you!") and they will also claim to be right if nothing happens at all ("they were trying to make the public feel insecure, get soldiers on the streets" or whatever).
    What no lizard people aswell? Maybe "David"*cough*icke*cough* could have mentioned that too on top of the chemtrails lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    The Rand Corporation, in conjunction with the saucer people. Under the supervision of the reverse vampires, are forcing our parents to go to bed early, in a fiendish plot to eliminate the meal of dinner. We're through the looking glass here, people!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Torakx wrote: »
    What no lizard people aswell? Maybe "David"*cough*icke*cough* could have mentioned that too on top of the chemtrails lol.
    But the people who believe in the lizards believe it just as firmly and have the exact same standard of proof as the people who believe in the NWO. Why should they be made fun of?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭Extinction


    But the people who believe in the lizards believe it just as firmly and have the exact same standard of proof as the people who believe in the NWO. Why should they be made fun of?

    And have the exact same standard of proof as the people who believe in God and holy spirits etc etc. Religous people also firmly believe in being taken away to another world after death (Heaven if your christian) or coming back to this world as another life form, do we laugh at them or respect their beliefs that seem a little crazy? Some of these God believing people actually think they are perfectly sane! Leave the Lizard people believers alone, there are worse things you could believe in.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Extinction wrote: »
    And have the exact same standard of proof as the people who believe in God and holy spirits etc etc. Religous people also firmly believe in being taken away to another world after death (Heaven if your christian) or coming back to this world as another life form, do we laugh at them or respect their beliefs that seem a little crazy? Some of these God believing people actually think they are perfectly sane! Leave the Lizard people believers alone, there are worse things you could believe in.
    Indeed. Far fewer people have been killed by the lizard believers than the god believers in the cause of their faith.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 745 ✭✭✭Extinction


    Something else that just struck me, now I'm not a great believer in religous stuff so don't shoot me if I'm wrong (seriously don't, I know how voilent you God believers can be) wasn't there an entity in the form of a snake in the christian bible, garden of eden etc? A lot of people it seems believe this stuff while laughing at people who'd believe in the lizard people. Pot calling the kettle black it seems. Thankfully the lizard believers aren't as blood thirsty as the God believers and we don't have mass murder crusades in support of the Lizard overlord.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    My point was, that it seemed to me the Guardian was using a person with fringe beliefs to tarnish all others those beliefs are attached to in the article.

    There are many different beliefs within the Ct community,because the whole aspect of "ct" is making theories and everyones got something slightly or drastically different.
    So of all the representatives from the Ct community for that paper to pick,they happened to get someone who came across as paranoid and erratic.And named David(coincedance im sure)...after the well known English speaker.

    That person could have said more on how a false flag attack or percieved attack would be and has been enough to instigate war.

    Or more on the bold side, that governments are ahead of us with technology and may be planning an alien false flag.Which i doubt personally as i think its too early for the alien card just yet.But its possible :)

    Anyway thats what i ment in my last post.

    Do you think the newspaper gave the Ct side of things a fair run?
    Did you see any mention of chemtrails in this thread that didnt originate from that newspaper post?

    Seems like more mainstream nonsense to me.Mainstream ct nonsense to be exact.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Torakx wrote: »
    My point was, that it seemed to me the Guardian was using a person with fringe beliefs to tarnish all others those beliefs are attached to in the article.

    There are many different beliefs within the Ct community,because the whole aspect of "ct" is making theories and everyones got something slightly or drastically different.
    So of all the representatives from the Ct community for that paper to pick,they happened to get someone who came across as paranoid and erratic.
    He seemed pretty representative of the CT community though - even based on some of those who post on this forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    He seemed pretty representative of the CT community though - even based on some of those who post on this forum.

    Guardian quote:
    The vast construction site looks fairly innocuous to me. David isn't so sure. "What about that cross in the sky up there?" he says. Two short fragments of aeroplane contrail have formed a distinct cross in the sky directly over the stadium. That is good enough for him.

    Doesnt represent my views for sure.
    I wonder who here does think chemtrails in a cross shape was connected to a conspiracy with the olympics.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Torakx wrote: »
    Doesnt represent my views for sure.
    I wonder who here does think chemtrails in a cross shape was connected to a conspiracy with the olympics.
    I'm not sure that one random guy can represent every single CT fan, but his views certainly chime with another poster from this very forum.
    Tetsudo wrote: »
    Denile is an understatement in the extreme. This is going on everyday, everywhere. One tell tale sign is when u see two of them cross paths to form a massive X in the sky. It is believed that the X marks are used to coordinate better the massive global spraying, marking when one area has been done so some command center can mark it on the computer or whatever and then move on to the next place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1




  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Had the guide ever seen anything paranormal going on here? "What, you mean like flying saucers? No, nothing like that," she laughs. David's eyebrows rise again. No one mentioned flying saucers.

    I do love that quote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Deep Thought


    The best way of removing negativity is to laugh and be joyous, Terry [Wogan], so I'm glad that there's been so much laughter in the audience tonight.
    Terry Wogan replied "But they're laughing at you. They're not laughing with you",

    Why do we even entertain this....

    Step away from the computers and step outside

    Life isn't one big conspiracy....its for living and not speculating

    The narrower a man’s mind, the broader his statements.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    Life isn't one big conspiracy....its for living and not speculating

    That's what they want you to think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    President Shimon Peres cancels Olympics trip over Shabbat observance.

    'President Shimon Peres has cancelled his visit to the Olympic Games in London due to the refusal of the Olympic organizing committee to allow him to sleep in the Olympic village over Shabbat night.

    The Israeli president, despite not being religious, does not travel publicly on Shabbat and will therefore not be able to attend the Olympic opening ceremony...

    ... Sources in the organizing committee were mystified by the president's announcement, since there are at least two suitable hotels at walking distance from the Olympic village.'


    http://privateinvesigations.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/president-shimon-peres-cancels-olympics.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    President Shimon Peres cancels Olympics trip over Shabbat observance.

    'President Shimon Peres has cancelled his visit to the Olympic Games in London due to the refusal of the Olympic organizing committee to allow him to sleep in the Olympic village over Shabbat night.

    The Israeli president, despite not being religious, does not travel publicly on Shabbat and will therefore not be able to attend the Olympic opening ceremony...

    ... Sources in the organizing committee were mystified by the president's announcement, since there are at least two suitable hotels at walking distance from the Olympic village.'


    http://privateinvesigations.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/president-shimon-peres-cancels-olympics.html


    and?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭al28283


    Olympic chiefs have banned all 800 food retailers at the 40 Games venues across Britain from dishing up chips because of 'sponsorship obligations.'
    The only loophole in the agreement, announced in a memo to staff, is that chips can be served with fish - safeguarding Britain's most famous dish.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2172168/London-Olympics-2012-McDonalds-force-Olympics-bosses-ban-restaurants-selling-chips-unless-FISH.html#ixzz20P8aJ8vC



    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2172168/London-Olympics-2012-McDonalds-force-Olympics-bosses-ban-restaurants-selling-chips-unless-FISH.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    al28283 wrote: »
    Olympic chiefs have banned all 800 food retailers at the 40 Games venues across Britain from dishing up chips because of 'sponsorship obligations.'
    The only loophole in the agreement, announced in a memo to staff, is that chips can be served with fish - safeguarding Britain's most famous dish.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2172168/London-Olympics-2012-McDonalds-force-Olympics-bosses-ban-restaurants-selling-chips-unless-FISH.html#ixzz20P8aJ8vC



    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2172168/London-Olympics-2012-McDonalds-force-Olympics-bosses-ban-restaurants-selling-chips-unless-FISH.html
    And ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Torakx wrote: »
    Guardian quote:


    Doesnt represent my views for sure.
    I wonder who here does think chemtrails in a cross shape was connected to a conspiracy with the olympics.
    And ?
    Perhaps THEY know that chips bestow some sort of immunity to whatever illusion it is that they have planned (either a false flag terror attack to cover up the Rapture, or a fake alien landing), so they need to discourage or restrict people from consuming chips at all costs. Hence this 'they must be sold with fish' plan - but of course what happens when the global corporate elite corner the fish market over the Olympics? The fast food folks will have none to sell, and thus won't be able to sell chips at all...


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