Disgusting armpit hair on woman

Fizzlesque

smash wrote: »

Wow hold on there. A personal preference for women to shave body hair is not a view on 'what women should do', it's a view on what I like personally and what I find attractive. I've said before that it's each to their own.

And as for "could possibly run deeper, and into scary territory eventually", well it's not really a fair comment.

I didn't solely, and specifically mean you - I meant men who have unrealistic expectations of women, while letting themselves off the grooming hook.

Let me explain a bit more so. You used descriptions like: lazy, don't really care for their appearance, not trying to look their best, not taking care of oneself and disgusting.

What I read from that is that you consider (even if only vaguely) being aesthetically pleasing to men is something women ought to prioritise. You chose not to engage in a discussion with me about your opinions on male grooming, so I have no way of knowing if you're as demanding of yourself as you are of the women you meet, but there are men who don't make a correlation between what they expect from women and what they're prepared to do themselves.

I worked with a man, years ago, who believed unattractive women should get plastic surgery because men are visual creatures and it's upsetting to have to set eyes on an unattractive woman. Extreme, I know, but I kid you not. We had many's the heated discussion and, although he was far from attractive he couldn't see why that mattered because (in his eyes) women were soft and pretty creatures while men were rugged and rough.

The further we delved into his warped thinking, the more his one dimensional view of women (and their purpose on earth) emerged.

It's one thing to have a personal preference, it's quite another to reach judgements such as 'lazy, not caring about one's appearance, not taking care of oneself' etc simply because the tiresome and painful chore of ripping hair out at the roots isn't a woman's main concern in life.

I don't like a hairy back on a man, but if he had other attributes I desired in a mate, I'd learn to live with it. I wouldn't call him negative names for not embarking on a lifelong routine of removing it.

Don't get me wrong, I do wax my legs (regularly) and occasionally shave under my arms (can't always shave them for reasons I don't wish to discuss here) but sometimes there's more important things and worthwhile things to do. Being pretty at all times isn't my main priority, and any man who believes aesthetics should be higher up the scale doesn't value/appreciate the many other facets of my personality sufficiently for me to consider him worthy of my time.

On a romantic level - chatting on Boards is fine

oakleafsfree

well your not elaborating..think definately our cultures either meke us or disable us(shh) I was at a Carnival in brazil, have been before.. i learnt new things from the chaps there.. they know how to party and drink like us brits...but every chap can dance. i mean dance...shown and strutted, twirled all night...like our forefathers here in the u.k at the tea dances and dance halls etc. certain ways of holding a female... i was putty.. totally mind blowing..enormous tease..giddy...totally sesuous. FOR th e brit boys..cheesy... but true...patrick swayze in dirty dancing...sensory overload...and never any total body contact.. but total contact at the same time. oh and all the lasses, we were all wearing the tiniest of clothing..not creeped or felt perved and then scared...the culture is to relish in it all..music , the play and the moves. i was repeatedly told and shown how to move this way or that..when to slow or quicken...any help?

I HAVE TO ADD... NEVER HAD SEX OF THE SIMPLE KIND..didnt get my oats at all.. .enjoyed the sensory awakenings of another kind... and since

coffee_cake

oakleafsfree wrote: »

well your not elaborating..think definately our cultures either meke us or disable us(shh) I was at a Carnival in brazil, have been before.. i learnt new things from the chaps there.. they know how to party and drink like us brits...but every chap can dance. i mean dance...shown and strutted, twirled all night...like our forefathers here in the u.k at the tea dances and dance halls etc. certain ways of holding a female... i was putty.. totally mind blowing..enormous tease..giddy...totally sesuous. FOR th e brit boys..cheesy... but true...patrick swayze in dirty dancing...sensory overload...and never any total body contact.. but total contact at the same time. oh and all the lasses, we were all wearing the tiniest of clothing..not creeped or felt perved and then scared...the culture is to relish in it all..music , the play and the moves. i was repeatedly told and shown how to move this way or that..when to slow or quicken...any help?

I HAVE TO ADD... NEVER HAD SEX OF THE SIMPLE KIND..didnt get my oats at all.. .enjoyed the sensory awakenings of another kind... and since

was this dress too sexy for your sister?

oakleafsfree

replying to MR FROZENpond....ooops was meant for teddy boy

jaffacakesyum

smash wrote: »

Shall we go over my posts again?

Lets.

"I think how a women takes care of herself says a lot. I would consider grooming to be big deal to be honest."

How is a woman who doesn't shave not taking care of herself? Honest question. I would consider taking care of youself eating healthy, exercising regularly and in terms of grooming, showering regularly, brushing your hair, taking care of your skin etc.

"not shaving is not grooming. As for not taking care, well that's a matter of opinion too. In my eyes if you've decided to be hairy then it means you're either lazy or don't really care much about your appearance.

I don't agree not shaving is not grooming but let's go with it for the moment. Do you apply what you just said there to men too? Are all men lazy if they don't shave?

"What difference does it make what I do? We're talking about women here. Women that don't shave their legs, armpits, whatever... In my opinion it is disgusting and in my opinion it is not taking care of oneself because it's not trying to look your best. It takes little effort and makes a big difference."

It actually takes a lot of effort and I'd just love to see you try do it for the rest of your life - be completely hairless, that is. Because that's what your saying women have to do to avoid being disgusting. Disguising it as personal preference doesn't take away from the fact that if you saw someone in the park for example, with hairy underarms you think "eew that's disgusting". I mean come on, do you not see how immature that is? My personal preference is for brunettes but I don't see a blonde and think "eew that's disgusting". My personal preference is for women not to be caked in make up but if I see one that is I don't think "eew disgusting". I could go on..

Why do I find it disgusting? Simple answer really... Because it's not my preference, it's the opposite of my preference. Everyone's entitled to a preference! A lot of women here find it disgusting too, I don't know why I'm being targeted out for an answer.

See above.

As for the part in bold, this is a discussion forum. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. My posts are directed at you because yours standed out to me, but they are directed at anyone with your 'opinion'.

Once again, I have no problem with personal preference. My personal preference is actually the same as yours!! Difference is, I'm mature enough not to call a woman disgusting because of it. Hair is natural. Shaving/waxing isn't natural.

oakleafsfree

SORRY DONE IT AGAIN...REPYING TO BLUEWOLFMAN stop it !! your making me chuckle!!

coffee_cake

I'm not a blue wolfman

oakleafsfree

reading from teddy boys thread...its all in the same vein....some of the men , boys etc...commenting on the looks. well there own dreams of it, anyway....but not one of the whingeing males actually sharing any knowledge of how to play the violin on us females....so few men and boys really dont know how to pleasure a female...total sensory boom!!! the guys dont know how to chat and really flirt and tease with just their language....why is that? i think your just conditioned incorrectley....thats all...all on the looks, and what you little boys expect in your own dreamworld, when really, totally rubbish at giving any female all over sensory pleasure. And i dont have a problem with any males in general....my personal complaint is....to many chaps are completely inept inbetween the sheets. you l have sons yoursel one day..so the consensus is that....you wernt getting it how you wanted it,i.e..unshaven or shaven knuckles.. so you go and pay for it... or watch porn or strippers etc, to errrrr get you going...so that means you dont even know your own body parts or even what to do with any body bit of your own...your emasculating yourselfs. god help your sons...no knowledge taught to chaps anywhere is there?!! i v got standards too.... i want too...all your daughters, mothers, wifes...probably taking on lovers. by the way teddy boy... you whined with another chap on here about my post. made me chuckle. quick to gang and corral...but not confident in your own self man worth...for a worthy reply. definately older than me.. not a gentleman either?! but you want a female to be harried into your idea of beauty...but is there any females on this thread..whineing on yours or any mans physical aspects? or as putridly vehemently a yours? no!! think you need to stop chatting rubbish...far too much time on your hands...and put your standards in action. i l watch.. and i l mark you and ask the poor female to fill in a complaint form and then mark you as ...MAAAN or silly boy (who s really impotent, frustrated with lack of female attention or just rubbish in bed)

Iwasfrozen

bluewolf wrote: »

I'm not a blue wolfman

Hey you got off light. I'm Mr. Frozenpond.

TeddyTedson

The quote button is useful oatey

oakleafsfree

TO BLUEMOONWOLF .sorry... cant...see...my underarmhair..poking my only good eye

smash

Fizzlesque wrote: »

What I read from that is that you consider (even if only vaguely) being aesthetically pleasing to men is something women ought to prioritise.

No I don't. I consider being aesthetically pleasing to yourself as something that people should prioritise.

Fizzlesque wrote: »

You chose not to engage in a discussion with me about your opinions on male grooming, so I have no way of knowing if you're as demanding of yourself as you are of the women you meet, but there are men who don't make a correlation between what they expect from women and what they're prepared to do themselves.

If I think I don't look well, I'll change what I don't like until I'm happy with my appearance.

Fizzlesque wrote: »

I worked with a man, years ago, who believed unattractive women should get plastic surgery because men are visual creatures and it's upsetting to have to set eyes on an unattractive woman. Extreme, I know, but I kid you not. We had many's the heated discussion and, although he was far from attractive he couldn't see why that mattered because (in his eyes) women were soft and pretty creatures while men were rugged and rough.

He sounds like a moron.

Fizzlesque wrote: »

It's one thing to have a personal preference, it's quite another to reach judgements such as 'lazy, not caring about one's appearance, not taking care of oneself' etc simply because the tiresome and painful chore of ripping hair out at the roots isn't a woman's main concern in life.

You seem to have me confused with someone who would demand a strict shaving regime. As I mentioned earlier I'm talking about hair, not stubble. There's a big difference.

Fizzlesque wrote: »

I don't like a hairy back on a man, but if he had other attributes I desired in a mate, I'd learn to live with it. I wouldn't call him negative names for not embarking on a lifelong routine of removing it.

Would you ask him to remove it though?

coffee_cake

oakleafsfree wrote: »

TO BLUEMOONWOLF .sorry... cant...see...my underarmhair..poking my only good eye

okay, pocahontasisfree

oakleafsfree

thanks teddy. i v just joined today...dont know what its there for. shall i just press and see what happens..or not. or shall i just be a female and errrr..??

Iwasfrozen

oakleafsfree wrote: »

thanks teddy. i v just joined today...dont know what its there for. shall i just press and see what happens..or not. or shall i just be a female and errrr..??

Oh the english, such fun.

oakleafsfree

TeddyTedson wrote: »

The quote button is useful oatey

oakleafsfree wrote: »

thanks teddy. i v just joined today...dont know what its there for. shall i just press and see what happens..or not. or shall i just be a female and errrr..??

your were definately wearing your pinafore unironed, with your original gripe. glad you v had your, your custard creams and your cup of tea?

oakleafsfree

oakleafsfree wrote: »

your were definately wearing your pinafore unironed, with your original gripe. glad you v had your, your custard creams and your cup of tea?

ok!!! i l forget again anyway. oh to be a silly one eyed female... bye all...need to further at nasal enhancements to my under arm hair.

smash

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

How is a woman who doesn't shave not taking care of herself? Honest question. I would consider taking care of youself eating healthy, exercising regularly and in terms of grooming, showering regularly, brushing your hair, taking care of your skin etc.

What you consider grooming and what I consider grooming are different then.

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

I don't agree not shaving is not grooming but let's go with it for the moment. Do you apply what you just said there to men too? Are all men lazy if they don't shave?

Of course not. But lets face it, it's very different isn't it.

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

It actually takes a lot of effort and I'd just love to see you try do it for the rest of your life - be completely hairless, that is. Because that's what your saying women have to do to avoid being disgusting.

That's not what I'm saying at all.

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

Disguising it as personal preference doesn't take away from the fact that if you saw someone in the park for example, with hairy underarms you think "eew that's disgusting". I mean come on, do you not see how immature that is?

I'm not disguising it as anything. It's a fact that it's a personal preference and it's my opinion which I'm entitled to. If I saw a woman with hairy armpits would I think she was disgusting? No, but I would think her armpits were disgusting looking.

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

My personal preference is for brunettes but I don't see a blonde and think "eew that's disgusting". My personal preference is for women not to be caked in make up but if I see one that is I don't think "eew disgusting". I could go on..

That's a pretty ridicules comparison.

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

Once again, I have no problem with personal preference. My personal preference is actually the same as yours!! Difference is, I'm mature enough not to call a woman disgusting because of it. Hair is natural. Shaving/waxing isn't natural.

Hairy armpits and legs are disgusting to most women and that's why they remove the hair. Are they all immature too?

oakleafsfree

TO CHAP..DOWN ON HIS BRITISH WAYS to ALL OPPOSITE SEX we flamin are..speak for youself..

Sugarlumps

Burn her at the stake with the rest of them.

Fizzlesque

Response to Smash

If I think I don't look well, I'll change what I don't like until I'm happy with my appearance. But this topic is about someone else's idea of what needs changing, not yours.


He sounds like a moron. He was a moron. And rather creepy too.


You seem to have me confused with someone who would demand a strict shaving regime. As I mentioned earlier I'm talking about hair, not stubble. There's a big difference. Fair enough. Good to know there's a degree of flexibility. It's better than none :P


Would you ask him to remove it though? No, I wouldn't. I couldn't ask someone I love to embark on the lifelong torture that is constantly removing hair, it's either time consuming or painful or both and one is never the victor for long. If, on the other hand, he decided he'd like to remove it, I'd say go for it.

smash

Fizzlesque wrote: »

Would you ask him to remove it though? No, I wouldn't. I couldn't ask someone I love to embark on the lifelong torture that is constantly removing hair, it's either time consuming or painful or both and one is never the victor for long. If, on the other hand, he decided he'd like to remove it, I'd say go for it.

If he removed it when you got with him and after a while he stopped and let it grow, would you then ask him to remove it again?

Fizzlesque

smash wrote: »

If he removed it when you got with him and after a while he stopped and let it grow, would you then ask him to remove it again?

It would depend on why he stopped. If the chore of maintaining it was wrecking his head I'd try find a way we could help each other with the tiresome chore that hair removal is. Visits to hair removal salons together, for example.

If he stopped because it was causing a rash or something like that, then no, I wouldn't.

If he stopped because he'd developed a onesided attitude to hair removal (i.e. expected it of me, because I'm a woman) I'd ask him a lot more than to remove it again.

howamidifferent

old hippy wrote: »

Have you ever heard of the neanderthals? I'm sure Richard E Leakey, David Attenborough, Alice Roberts et al would disagree with you...

Doesnt this prove what he said that men didnt like hairy women.?
Shure, isnt that why they died out???

problemchimp

Are you sure she had hairy armpits? Maybe she had Finbar Furey in a headlock.

howamidifferent

oakleafsfree wrote: »

TO CHAP..DOWN ON HIS BRITISH WAYS to ALL OPPOSITE SEX we flamin are..speak for youself..

wtf?

smithcity

howamidifferent wrote: »

wtf?

I think it's some kind of radical, free form, experimental poetry.

phill106

I saw the clip, looked like she had chewbacca in a headlock!


SHould put it in the "Nope" Thread

Dudess

Some of the hysterical reactions are a tonic. OP, "disgusting"?! If that's what you deem disgusting...

I don't think it looks or feels good either, but "vomitous" and all the other peeing-in-their-panties-in-fear-like-little-girls comments are hilarious!

And hair-free pubic area is just a fashion thing - tidy and minimal yeah, but the whole lot off? Not a chance!

smash

Dudess wrote: »

tidy and minimal yeah, but the whole lot off? Not a chance!

lightening bolt ftw!