Chargers Thread

OAOB

I don't think there's any cap saving in cutting him but i'm open to correction on that. I'd be likely to keep him around for the pre-season in case of injuries but i don't think he should be on the roster come week 1. His versatility is his best asset, average runner, blocker and pass catcher.

Actually i wonder how Gordon is at pass blocking? It was always a big knock on Matthews that he never developed the skills or vision for it

Leslie91

OAOB wrote: »

I don't think there's any cap saving in cutting him but i'm open to correction on that. I'd be likely to keep him around for the pre-season in case of injuries but i don't think he should be on the roster come week 1. His versatility is his best asset, average runner, blocker and pass catcher.

Actually i wonder how Gordon is at pass blocking? It was always a big knock on Matthews that he never developed the skills or vision for it

I've heard conflicting stories on his pass blocking. For example TT said he was a good pass pro.. others say he never really had to do it but when he did he was keen and had no problem sticking his head in but technique-wise had no clue.

Sounds like something that will need to be coached up. Hopefully he won't be called on too much to pass pro. But we all know how that worked out with Ryan i.e. when he was in the game then it is defo a run.

Molly

It was Brown's blocking that got Scrifes injured. La'el Collins would be a sweet addition. Unlikely though given the competition.

Edit: Providing he is cleared.

OAOB

Blocking on special teams is a lot different to offense, he picks up blitzes and stunts pretty well as a blocker.

Don't think we've a shot at Collins, restricted budget for UDFA so you'd have to put the whole budget towards him. The Californian tax rates work against us too. Only chance would be to sign him and immediately do a new deal at low first round high second money but can't see it happening.

Leslie91

OAOB wrote: »

Blocking on special teams is a lot different to offense, he picks up blitzes and stunts pretty well as a blocker.

Don't think we've a shot at Collins, restricted budget for UDFA so you'd have to put the whole budget towards him. The Californian tax rates work against us too. Only chance would be to sign him and immediately do a new deal at low first round high second money but can't see it happening.

I'd still be shocked if he is on the 53. He's a goner unless BO or God forbid Gordon get injured early.

OAOB

I just hope if injuries happen we don't pick up Ronnie Brown again

Leslie91

OAOB wrote: »

I just hope if injuries happen we don't pick up Ronnie Brown again

Now that would be funny!...

tripperman

OAOB wrote: »

I just hope if injuries happen we don't pick up Ronnie Brown again

Rather see one of the two underrated f a rbs get on instead of ronnie

Leslie91

tripperman wrote: »

Rather see one of the two underrated f a rbs get on instead of ronnie

Or maybe even Marion Grice is he doesn't make it to the 53 in Az.

tripperman

Leslie91 wrote: »

Or maybe even Marion Grice is he doesn't make it to the 53 in Az.

Yeah forgot about him, i still think he was worth keeping around last season

Leslie91

tripperman wrote: »

Yeah forgot about him, i still think he was worth keeping around last season

It was close between he and BO I reckon. At the time I was pulling my hair out and Grice has looked ok since but I'm v happy with BO and what he brings.

tripperman

Leslie91 wrote: »

It was close between he and BO I reckon. At the time I was pulling my hair out and Grice has looked ok since but I'm v happy with BO and what he brings.

i liked grice when he was drafted, I hadn't seen anything about Brandon till he got on the pitch last season and he's now a firm favourite of mine,

Leslie91

I can't get over the stalemate on the Weddle situation. I see Acee saying in his Q&A yesterday that there is pretty much zero chance of Weddle getting an extension. It all sounds v odd to me, yes he is not getting any younger but his presence alone not to mention what he can still bring on the field has to be worth a conversation at least. I'm not sure what the front office are playing at here.

On an another note, great to see all bar Gordon signed. How great is it to have this rookie wage scale. Pity football this side of the pond/around the world can't figure out a way to do something similar in terms of wages, which is pricing the regular fan out of the game.

OAOB

I wouldn't pay any notion to Acee to be honest, he's a reporter who lost all his sources when TT arrived so now he just tries to create stories.

Disappointed in Weddle, he's a captain so should be leading. He's got another year to play so no need to go crying to the media just yet, lots of time to negotiate

Leslie91

So the vets are arriving to meet the rookies today. The only things I heard out of minicamp (apart from hearing all the draft picks are now signed) that were interesting were that Huey was playing center and Gordon ran away from Perryman on a pass out of the backfield. Anyone see any other interesting tidbits?

Oh and I hear we have another basketball player Richard Ross trying out at TE. We all know how that once turned into Gold for our Bolts.

tripperman

Leslie91 wrote: »

So the vets are arriving to meet the rookies today. The only things I heard out of minicamp (apart from hearing all the draft picks are now signed) that were interesting were that Huey was playing center and Gordon ran away from Perryman on a pass out of the backfield. Anyone see any other interesting tidbits?

Oh and I hear we have another basketball player Richard Ross trying out at TE. We all know how that once turned into Gold for our Bolts.

San diego state fb making good impression his blocking is supposed to be exceptional

Leslie91

tripperman wrote: »

San diego state fb making good impression his blocking is supposed to be exceptional

Who do u mean Tripperman? what's his name?

Chad Young is it? I see he is one of the 15 who were tryouts i.e. not even getting a mention on the roster on chargers.com.

tripperman

Leslie91 wrote: »

Who do u mean Tripperman? what's his name?

Chad Young is it? I see he is one of the 15 who were tryouts i.e. not even getting a mention on the roster on chargers.com.

Yeah young he's great at opening running lanes for rbs that's where trying him with Gordon, he's only a try out but might get a practice spot, I didn't see him on chargers. Com but read about him on nbc

OAOB

We didn't carry a FB last year but used Johnson as a hybrid FB/TE, guy will have his work cut out for him to make it with us

tripperman

OAOB wrote: »

We didn't carry a FB last year but used Johnson as a hybrid FB/TE, guy will have his work cut out for him to make it with us

I can't remember was it two seasons ago or three that we had a fb on the roster, if he makes practice squad he be doing well, a lot of Gordon's big runs came from behind a fb blocking last year, so they prob just looking at options there for red zone

OAOB

Le'ron mcclain I think it was. Think he was signed by AJ.
Wouldn't mind having a FB on the roster to help out Gordon instead of one of the 4 TEs we carried last year. Would have to be a good special teamer to make the 53 I reckon

Leslie91

OAOB wrote: »

Le'ron mcclain I think it was. Think he was signed by AJ.
Wouldn't mind having a FB on the roster to help out Gordon instead of one of the 4 TEs we carried last year. Would have to be a good special teamer to make the 53 I reckon

For the amount of/quality of blocking David Johnson did I am all for finding a proper FB. Johnson was a big disappointment as has been Phillips since he arrived. I'd be fine with both of em being gone come September.

OAOB

To be honest i barely remember seeing Johnson in as FB. I like the idea of having versatile players but if they're playing two positions and ineffective at both then get rid of them.
Philips has been a disaster, i saw a stat a while ago that showed his blocking as below average. He's not a passing threat so might as well play an extra O-line than him

tripperman

Joe barksdale rt from the rams signed on a one year deal, wonder is dj going guard

Leslie91

tripperman wrote: »

Joe barksdale rt from the rams signed on a one year deal, wonder is dj going guard

Gonna b v interesting to see how this pans out. 1 thing is for sure tk God we won't be going forward with Troutman on right side of O line. This is a good signing.

tripperman

Leslie91 wrote: »

Gonna b v interesting to see how this pans out. 1 thing is for sure tk God we won't be going forward with Troutman on right side of O line. This is a good signing.

I think its great improvement on oline since last season, can't see troutman starting now, rivers must be happy now with this line

OAOB

Not sure how big an improvement this is. The knock on Fluker is his pass protection but apparently Barksdale is no better. He's a very good run blocker and him and Fluker will move people but in my opinion whoever is the better pass blocker is the starting RT.
Wonder could Barksdale play RG?

I know we didn't see too much last year but i think if I was to list what i think the top 5 players we have on the O-line I'd have to include Robinson at C. Watt is pencilled in there but if Robinson could earn that and move to RG I'd be happy with that

Leslie91

OAOB wrote: »

Not sure how big an improvement this is. The knock on Fluker is his pass protection but apparently Barksdale is no better. He's a very good run blocker and him and Fluker will move people but in my opinion whoever is the better pass blocker is the starting RT.
Wonder could Barksdale play RG?

I know we didn't see too much last year but i think if I was to list what i think the top 5 players we have on the O-line I'd have to include Robinson at C. Watt is pencilled in there but if Robinson could earn that and move to RG I'd be happy with that

For me Watt is far superior to Robinson, at center & guard. I still think Fluker will get his shot to stay at RT but I won't be shocked if Barksdale ends up at RT and Fluke at guard.

OAOB

Leslie91 wrote: »

For me Watt is far superior to Robinson, at center & guard. I still think Fluker will get his shot to stay at RT but I won't be shocked if Barksdale ends up at RT and Fluke at guard.

Watt is far better than Robinson but my point is that Robinson is better than Barksdale and Troutman so start him and get the best 5 players on the line.

Barksdale is a cheap signing and risk free so definitely worth trying. I think Fluker will be an excellent G but no point moving him if we're not getting better at RT. Barksdale gives us a competition at RT but we've a lot of prospects at RG that i'm interested in. I'd love to see Sirles or Watts earn the RG and Fluker stay at RT

tripperman

OAOB wrote: »

Watt is far better than Robinson but my point is that Robinson is better than Barksdale and Troutman so start him and get the best 5 players on the line.

Barksdale is a cheap signing and risk free so definitely worth trying. I think Fluker will be an excellent G but no point moving him if we're not getting better at RT. Barksdale gives us a competition at RT but we've a lot of prospects at RG that i'm interested in. I'd love to see Sirles or Watts earn the RG and Fluker stay at RT

It's a good value deal for chargers gives competition at rt and also may improve rg aswell, read last night rivers is open to short term contract is something needs to be worked on, weedle still holding out, I'm a bit disappointed that now the drafts over there doesn't seem to be progress on his contract, I know age is becoming a factor but he's still a major player for us for few years to come