So, you're officially long term unemployed

yore

You've been a year on the dole for over a year.....so what the f$#@ have you done about it?

Giving out about the government/economy/bankers, blaming everyone else, ringing Joe Duffy or ranting on internet forums doesn't count. And I'm not asking how many times you forwarded your standard CV and cover letter onto various employers.

What have you achieved in the last year to increase your employability? New skills? Learned a language? Coached the local under 10 team? I could go on all night.

It's a genuine question! Don't take offence

People who were long-term unemployed but got a job in the past year feel free to share your tips!

Redzer7

yore wrote: »

You've been a year on the dole for over a year.....so what the f$#@ have you done about it?

Giving out about the government/economy/bankers, blaming everyone else, ringing Joe Duffy or ranting on internet forums doesn't count. And I'm not asking how many times you forwarded your standard CV and cover letter onto various employers.

What have you achieved in the last year to increase your employability? New skills? Learned a language? Coached the local under 10 team? I could go on all night.

It's a genuine question! Don't take offence

People who were long-term unemployed but got a job in the past year feel free to share your tips!

Wait how long were we on the dole for?

yore

Redzer7 wrote: »

Wait how long were we on the dole for?

I don't know. I'm off to bed. The thread is addressed at those who are long term unemployed or who were. Hence the title. It's purpose was to reduce the number of irrelevant posts from people with nothing helpful, or even humorous to contribute. It doesn't seem to gave worked very well. Don't get confused. I'm not telling you that you are unemployed.

Simarly, here is a thread asking if you shave with or against the grain. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056616198 . Again, if you read that thread title and don't shave (Too young/wax/got it lasered) don't get confused. It's not addressed to you.

I'm sorry if you don't understand. Not every post is a personal message for you. This one, however, is.

Redzer7

yore wrote: »

I don't know. I'm off to bed. The thread is addressed at those who are long term unemployed or who were. Hence the title. It's purpose was to reduce the number of irrelevant posts from people with nothing helpful, or even humorous to contribute. It doesn't seem to gave worked very well. Don't get confused. I'm not telling you that you are unemployed.

Simarly, here is a thread asking if you shave with or against the grain. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056616198 . Again, if you read that thread title and don't shave (Too young/wax/got it lasered) don't get confused. It's not addressed to you.

I'm sorry if you don't understand. Not every post is a personal message for you. This one, however, is.

Ya bleeding mad thing :pac: get some sleep.

IM0

yore wrote: »

Not every post is a personal message for you.

:mad:

MrStuffins

yore wrote: »

I don't know. I'm off to bed........

If you had a job you'd have been in bed hours ago. Go learn a language or something ya bum!

Lionel Messy

Mind your own business.

James Forde

I took up a professional mastrubation course

Level:Wizard

up for anything

I'm sensing wolf in sheep's clothing thread. :eek:

I've learned how to pull a great pint of Guinness which is a huge feat considering I've had to watch the barman in my local...from the smoking area. Mind you it's taken about 20,000 pints to learn.

mconigol

What? I'm unemployed? :eek:

The King of Moo

From what I've learned, apparently all long-term unemployed people spend most of their time fornicating to have more children in order to get a bigger council house.
They do take occasional breaks from this work by going on sun holidays.

toexpress

The King of Moo wrote: »

From what I've learned, apparently all long-term unemployed people spend most of their time fornicating to have more children in order to get a bigger council house.
They do take occasional breaks from this work by going on sun holidays.

Or if they don't have a council house and are in private rented accommodation torturing their home owning neighbours, robbing us blind, blocking our cars in, making false complaints to Gardai in an effort to mitigate their own poor behaviour, screaming to all who will listen that they are going to sue all around them and then telling anyone who listen about their "good name"

CruelCoin

yore wrote: »

You've been a year on the dole for over a year.....so what the f$#@ have you done about it?

Giving out about the government/economy/bankers, blaming everyone else, ringing Joe Duffy or ranting on internet forums doesn't count. And I'm not asking how many times you forwarded your standard CV and cover letter onto various employers.

What have you achieved in the last year to increase your employability? New skills? Learned a language? Coached the local under 10 team? I could go on all night.

It's a genuine question! Don't take offence

People who were long-term unemployed but got a job in the past year feel free to share your tips!

As an employer, the biggest thing i have to say is polish your goddam CV....

If you're at home for that length of time and your CV is anything less than immaculate in every way, then it speaks volumes.
Spelling errors, syntax, innapropriate e-mail listed, poor layout, etc etc.
I can only assume that the lack of attention to detail and accuracy in the CV will be carried over to their work.
Also, do some charity work. Working for free look immensly better on your cv than a 2 year long blank gap....Its looks awfull and paints you as a person out to do the bare minimum.

CruelCoin

The King of Moo wrote: »

From what I've learned, apparently all long-term unemployed people spend most of their time fornicating to have more children in order to get a bigger council house.
They do take occasional breaks from this work by going on sun holidays.

This.

Girl i know, unemployed for her entire life. Single mother and can still afford the latest iphone, 2 yearly sun holidays, a nice 4-bed, and going out for meals.

Unemployment benefit should be subsistence level only.

And cap the child benefit at 3 kids max. Its a vagina, not a ****ing clown car.

Mint Sauce

Made redunadant mid 2010, got part time work june 2011, and place on FAS course in september.

During time sent countless applications, had 5 interviews, learnt to drive, done an ECDL, got a days work during the election. Must of the time though it was mind numbing boredem, sometimes on the verge of depression.

toexpress

CruelCoin wrote: »

This.

Girl i know, unemployed for her entire life. Single mother and can still afford the latest iphone, 2 yearly sun holidays, a nice 4-bed, and going out for meals.

Unemployment benefit should be subsistence level only.

And cap the child benefit at 3 kids max. Its a vagina, not a ****ing clown car.

Award for the quote of the week goes to???

Across the green from my house there is a family on the social, get their money today (I know this because from today and for the rest of the weekend they will live on take away. They have a big people carrier etc) even if I wanted to live on take outs I couldn't afford to do it and I work for myself and have a good enough income

mattjack

CruelCoin wrote: »

This.

Girl i know, unemployed for her entire life. Single mother and can still afford the latest iphone, 2 yearly sun holidays, a nice 4-bed, and going out for meals.

Unemployment benefit should be subsistence level only.

And cap the child benefit at 3 kids max. Its a vagina, not a ****ing clown car.

You seem to know an awful lot about her, did you get her knocked up ?

phasers

I had 4 kids

mattjack

I jus' love this threads......:)

mattjack

toexpress wrote: »

Award for the quote of the week goes to???

Across the green from my house there is a family on the social, get their money today (I know this because from today and for the rest of the weekend they will live on take away. They have a big people carrier etc) even if I wanted to live on take outs I couldn't afford to do it and I work for myself and have a good enough income

In the Valley of Twitching Curtains, there lived a Watcher who spent every moment Watching his neighbours (across the Green)....

toexpress

mattjack wrote: »

In the Valley of Twitching Curtains, there lived a Watcher who spent every moment Watching his neighbours (across the Green)....

Watch? You can't miss it when the rozzers are round at 3 in the morning waking me up!

giant_midget

I really feel sorry for people out of work, it's a right kick in the boll1x. I was unemployed for 7 months back in 2009 and it was a bad space in my life but i have been working every day since then. Im lucky to have found a job. I only got it because i knew a manager where i started. All is good now.

I don't however feel sorry for long term unemployed people 5+ years, These people make me mad, Lazy slobs. These people should be cut out from society like the bad cancer that they are. In the USA these people would be out on the street as they are worthless, rightly so....

sunflower27

irish-stew wrote: »

Made redunadant mid 2010, got part time work june 2011, and place on FAS course in september.

During time sent countless applications, had 5 interviews, learnt to drive, done an ECDL, got a days work during the election. Must of the time though it was mind numbing boredem, sometimes on the verge of depression.

i hear you. It is depressing. I was made redundant end of December 2010. I joined the fundraising committee of a charity close to my heart, also signed up to do training for the Samaritans and finished that 2 weeks ago so I am now on the phones.... am seven months into an unpaid marketing internship that I do 9.30-6pm four times a week.

I have signed up to start a foundation in counselling course at the end of this month (put that on the credit card but did so because I want to do the degree that starts in October).

Not sure how I am going to get the money together for the fees, save and hopefully top that up with a credit union loan.

But it is the career I want to pursue as my skills in publishing are pretty much redundant and I don't want to work in that field anymore.

Not all people on the dole are happy with their situation and plenty are plugging away trying to better themselves against the odds.

mattjack

giant_midget wrote: »

I really feel sorry for people out of work, it's a right kick in the boll1x. I was unemployed for 7 months back in 2009 and it was a bad space in my life but i have been working every day since then. Im lucky to have found a job. I only got it because i knew a manager where i started. All is good now.

I don't however feel sorry for long term unemployed people 5+ years, These people make me mad, Lazy slobs. These people should be cut out from society like the bad cancer that they are. In the USA these people would be out on the street as they are worthless, rightly so....

So you didn,t get the job on merit ? and if you didn,t know the manager you could be still unemployed now and becoming a lazy slob soon to be tossed out on street ... like the bad cancer you are ? Is a good cancer , by the way ?

mattjack

sunflower27 wrote: »

i hear you. It is depressing. I was made redundant end of December 2010. I joined the fundraising committee of a charity close to my heart, also signed up to do training for the Samaritans and finished that 2 weeks ago so I am now on the phones.... am seven months into an unpaid marketing internship that I do 9.30-6pm four times a week.

I have signed up to start a foundation in counselling course at the end of this month (put that on the credit card but did so because I want to do the degree that starts in October).

Not sure how I am going to get the money together for the fees, save and hopefully top that up with a credit union loan.

But it is the career I want to pursue as my skills in publishing are pretty much redundant and I don't want to work in that field anymore.

Not all people on the dole are happy with their situation and plenty are plugging away trying to better themselves against the odds.

Well done, I lost my job three years ago and been on two different CE schemes for different types of charity and just finished my first year in college and am hoping to get funding to continue next year.

Being unemployed is sh,ite,.. but like you said you just keep plugging away

sunflower27

You just have to stay positive. At some point things will turn around.

I also knocked drinking on the head as that was proving a killer and really making me depressed.

if I had not lost my cushy job (it was well paid and I was happy) I would never have pursued what I believe is my true calling. This has all beenan incredible learning experience for me.

But down the line, I will look back on this time and think against the odds, i did it, I pushed myself and believed in myself and it will stand to me.

In saying that, I do know of people on the dole years who are doing nothing. I can't change them, I can only live my life and not take to heart comments about being a dole bludger. I know I am far from it and if I had the opportunity of paid work (and not an unpaid internship), believe me, I would be doing it.

forfuxsake

The King of Moo wrote: »

From what I've learned, apparently all long-term unemployed people spend most of their time fornicating to have more children in order to get a bigger council house.
They do take occasional breaks from this work by going on sun holidays.

not true, this is where much of the procreation takes place.

ToddyDoody

I did two interships in the field of my study, bought all the course books related to my degrees (60) and read bits from them a few times a week. I keep up to date on the news of any stories related to the area.. But im thinking its more my poor level of connections (have always been quiet) that are letting me down, trying a bit of self improvement books and just general dvd watching helps. Most people will say this is depressing but i've also just 'been alone with my thoughts' which isnt too bad as i'm somewhat philosophical.. This helps in life (incorporating work)

wendell borton

CruelCoin wrote: »

Its a vagina, not a ****ing clown car.

Nothingbetter2d

for me it was like this

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as you can see thats pretty soul destroying when companies don't actually send you a personal response.

in the end i took an internship just to get out of the house

giant_midget

mattjack wrote: »

So you didn,t get the job on merit ? and if you didn,t know the manager you could be still unemployed now and becoming a lazy slob soon to be tossed out on street ... like the bad cancer you are ? Is a good cancer , by the way ?

Well i have qualifications and found it hard to find work still. So i took an oppertunity when it came up, I was asked to do the job im in now...can't you understand that? Rather than being a number on the dole i took my job...paid tomorrow now as well

mattjack

giant_midget wrote: »

Well i have qualifications and found it hard to find work still. So i took an oppertunity when it came up, I was asked to do the job im in now...can't you understand that? Rather than being a number on the dole i took my job...paid tomorrow now as well

You generalised , you called people lazy slobs and described then as cancers can you understand how insulting that is ?.

Paid tomorrow as well ? good lad .

giant_midget

mattjack wrote: »

You generalised , you called people lazy slobs and described then as cancers can you understand how insulting that is ?.

Paid tomorrow as well ? good lad .

Yes i did generalise long term unemployed people (people who refused to work during the boom) what is wrong with that, These people contribute nothing to society...if you can't see that logic then i presume that either you or some of your family members fall into that bracket..:)

mattjack

giant_midget wrote: »

Yes i did generalise long term unemployed people (people who refused to work during the boom) what is wrong with that, These people contribute nothing to society...if you can't see that logic then i presume that either you or some of your family members fall into that bracket..:)

That reply doesn't even warrant a response.
Good luck.

Sea Filly

Treat looking for a job like your job.

When I was unemployed and on the dole, I "worked" for 8-10 hours a day, looking at advertisements, inquiring, tailoring my CV, composing cover letters specific to each job, researching jobs and starting the whole cycle again. I regarded my dole as my "pay". So I guess I applied a work ethic to job-hunting. I can categorically say I wouldn't have got my job if I hadn't done this because you just have to be dogged and hawk-eyed these days. And don't be afraid to inquire. The job I got needed an MSc, I only have a bachelors. I emailed asking for some papers that I couldn't access online to see what the lab was all about. I guess it made me stick out in their minds.

spoofilyj

I was made redundant on March 12th 2009 after being in work since I finished college in 2007.

Lehmann Brothers collapsed in Oct 2008 and with all the changes that happened in work after that, a lot of us had a good idea that redundancies were coming. Free teas coffee's no longer allowed, free lunches gone no more fruit etc.

The company I worked for were good to me though and I was allowed used the office, computers, internet and printing to look for work in the lead up to redundancy.

The last two weeks I was told I didnt have to turn up but I came in every morning for 8:30 and spent all day applying for jobs.
I applied for over 300 jobs in two and a half weeks.

When the 12th came and went I continued working on applications from Home.
There were two glorious weeks of sun in end of march and I used the time to meet other unemployeed friends for tea in the afternoons and walks in the Pheonix park, that way we were able to keep each other motivated.

In all the applications I sent out, I got four responses from real people, I managed to get two interviews and got a job that stared on the 3rd of April.

With in six weeks of starting I was asked if I wanted to work with a cleint in Abu-Dhabi, I said why not and on the 16th of May I flew to Abu-Dhabi and started work there for the rest of the year and until Feb 2010.

I feel really lucky to have gotten a job but it took lots of hard work and dismissing any rejection from my thoughts, its tough to stay positive but it can be done and with enough hard work, luck will be on you side.

I've been in work every day since and changed Jobs last September for a better position. I do feel lucky about it especially on horrible mornings when I'm soaked from the cycle into work. I think I have no right to be pissed off as there are so many people in the country who are struggling and here am I employeed.

Best of luck to anyone out of work, its not easy but with enough hard work at job applications and the right attitude things can change very quickly.

WindSock

Just finished a part time degree, did a fas course in the meantime, applied for countless jobs, some volunteer work, some chugging very briefly. Its the longest time i have been unemployed. Heading overseas soon now I am finished college methinks.

eviltwin

I was long term unemployed, made redundant in 2009 just as I went on maternity leave. I was bored at home so started doing some volunteer work when my baby turned one and after 6 months of that got offered a job with them.

I was just lucky I was in the right place at the right time though, I know people who are slogging it out doing interviews and sending out cvs and getting nothing back.

Its pretty soul destroying.

c_man

yore wrote: »

You've been a year on the dole for over a year.....so what the f$#@ have you done about it?

Not much, I've been too busy being balls deep in Monica Bellucci for the past twelve months.

True story.

stupidusername

My anxiety has screwed me over in terms of getting a job,because I was limiting what I was applying for for a long time. Now i'm so long graduated from college I can't get a paid job in my field. Looking unlikely i'll get an unpaid job in it either. In any job I do I do it 100% but you don't get the chance when all employers see is a gap in your cv. I've started tutorials online so I can keep my mind in the area.

I didn't want to take on volunteer work before because most stuff requires you to commit a minimum time,and I thought well what if I get a job in the meantime. But i've done one collection day already,and am going to go for more things that I can.

CruelCoin

Its not as if you can say you didn't have the time to iron out that gap or anything.....

If an employer receives 200 cv's for 2 or 3 jobs, they have the absolute right to pick only the very very best for that spot.

Its harsh, but if you're not willing to plump out the extra effort, then you will lose out on the spot to someone who was willing!

stupidusername

CruelCoin wrote: »

Its not as if you can say you didn't have the time to iron out that gap or anything.....

If an employer receives 200 cv's for 2 or 3 jobs, they have the absolute right to pick only the very very best for that spot.

Its harsh, but if you're not willing to plump out the extra effort, then you will lose out on the spot to someone who was willing!

Was that directed at me?

Well for much of that time I didn't have the choice.

mattjack

stupidusername wrote: »

My anxiety has screwed me over in terms of getting a job,because I was limiting what I was applying for for a long time. Now i'm so long graduated from college I can't get a paid job in my field. Looking unlikely i'll get an unpaid job in it either. In any job I do I do it 100% but you don't get the chance when all employers see is a gap in your cv. I've started tutorials online so I can keep my mind in the area.

I didn't want to take on volunteer work before because most stuff requires you to commit a minimum time,and I thought well what if I get a job in the meantime. But i've done one collection day already,and am going to go for more things that I can.

whats a collection day ?

ToddyDoody

giant_midget wrote: »

Yes i did generalise long term unemployed people (people who refused to work during the boom) what is wrong with that, These people contribute nothing to society.

Do you think we should shoot them? (shoot me while you're at it)

CruelCoin

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Do you think we should shoot them? (shoot me while you're at it)

Not shoot them, but rather cut them off from support.

There is a difference between "here's some help to get you back on your feet support" and "here's free money for life you leech!"

Support those needing support, let the wasters and leechs starve.

ToddyDoody

CruelCoin wrote: »

Support those needing support, let the wasters and leechs starve.

but with nothing to loose they will gun society down and end up in prison costing even more money and compromising social security

stupidusername

mattjack wrote: »

whats a collection day ?

It's a day where a charity gets volunteers to go out with buckets to get money.

eviltwin

CruelCoin wrote: »

Not shoot them, but rather cut them off from support.

There is a difference between "here's some help to get you back on your feet support" and "here's free money for life you leech!"

Support those needing support, let the wasters and leechs starve.

At what point does someone who loses a job become a "leech"

giant_midget

eviltwin wrote: »

At what point does someone who loses a job become a "leech"

someone who has not worked in years, during the boom and continue's not to work or look for work is a leech...this country seems to reward lazy slobish people, it's unreal...

du Maurier

Midget, you need to stop watching TV3:pac:

Gummy Panda

phasers wrote: »

I had 4 kids

I told you Phasers, up the bum no harm done. Now you've ruined yourself