Olympics 2012 to See the Roll Out of the Post 9/11 UK Dystopia

Run_to_da_hills

What originally started off as a series of athletic competitions held for representatives of various city states of Ancient Greece has now turned itself into to something reminiscent of a battlefield taken directly out of George Orwell's book 1984.



Critics of the Olympics have not been slow to point out the dark ironies surrounding the police Wenlock figure. "Water cannon and steel cordon sold separately," mocks Dan Hancox on the influential Games Monitor website. "Baton rounds may be unsuitable for small children."

In addition to the concentration of sporting talent and global media, the London Olympics will host the biggest mobilisation of military and security forces seen in the UK since the second world war. More troops – around 13,500 – will be deployed than are currently at war in Afghanistan. The growing security force is being estimated at anything between 24,000 and 49,000 in total. Such is the secrecy that no one seems to know for sure.

During the Games an aircraft carrier will dock on the Thames. Surface-to-air missile systems will scan the skies. Unmanned drones, thankfully without lethal missiles, will loiter above the gleaming stadiums and opening and closing ceremonies. RAF Typhoon Eurofighters will fly from RAF Northolt. A thousand armed US diplomatic and FBI agents and 55 dog teams will patrol an Olympic zone partitioned off from the wider city by an 11-mile, £80m, 5,000-volt electric fence.



It looks to me that this could possibly be a drill for something more sinister. possibly a mock up for martial law or some false flag attack that will usher the police state. There is also the possibilities of a "cyber attack" blamed on "hackers" that could swiftly draft in a Euro CISPA.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/mar/12/london-olympics-security-lockdown-london

Torakx

I was recently saying to a friend "I wonder will there be another false flag on the olympics this time".
He think no because it would be too obvious and 9/11 and 7/7 were kind of randomly done with just interesting dates used instead.

But im not so sure.It seems to me they might have been building these false flags up to something big.
I mean why would they spend so much money bringing in all this stuff if they could not justify it afterwards.
Maybe it is just another drill so they can get the world used to bigger and bigger forces moved into to civilian arenas.

At the same time though i would not be suprised if they had a few "terrorists" ready even if they get caught before any damage happens..simply to justify what i said above.

hooradiation

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

It looks to me that this could possibly be a drill for something more sinister.

Or, and I know this might sound crazy, but a massive security operation for one of the biggest sporting events on the planet?

Is there any level of security for an event of this scale that you wouldn't be concerned of being preparation for something sinister?

I am pie

Is that what the conspiracy theory crowd is clinging to now that the whole 2012 nonsense has turned out to be waffle.

Newsflash. Major sports events = security everywhere. We, the 99% (see what i did there) are glad of it.

It's comically easy to call an attack a 'false flag'. It just takes a forum and some unsubstantiated bad science and rumour, it is so much harder to protect against the real thing.

Jonny7

It's just a natural increase in security to deter any potential domestic/foreign attacks or incidents.

It's a bit like when the Queen visited Ireland. We increased security to a very high level. It wasn't some false flag just to turn our country into an Orwellian state.

Torakx

Thats why it was posted in the Ct forums.
Its about speculation on the other possibilities.
For me all are possible.

Just so happens, if i posted that the olympics had this amount of security to prevent another terrorist attack,in annother forums(say sports), 99% of the people might say..but of course! whats your point?

Those 99% dont really consider much else but what is "apparent" and what is ussually apparent is what you read in the newspapers and see on tv or hear through gossip form people who got it from those sources.

However on this forum, skeptics like to see all the possibilities and speculate.
Saying what obvious;y the 99% as you call them believe, is of little use on a CT forums.
We already know about that likely hood and we would like to consider the other likelyhoods.

Its been shown that the 9/11 incident and probably 7/7 too were not quite so clear cut.
To speculate on the future olympics as we are now, is not exactly wild speculation.

hooradiation

Torakx wrote: »

Thats why it was posted in the Ct forums.
Its about speculation on the other possibilities.
For me all are possible.

Possible and probable are, as you are no doubt aware, different things.

But what I find fascinating about the 'CT' angle is how often there are huge elements of dread and grim certainty attached to them.

bear in mind, this isn't a "what if " thread. Not really.
Look at the language that has been used.

Lets start with the thread title - " Olympics 2012 to See the Roll Out of the Post 9/11 UK Dystopia"

Right from the outset, we've got a direct statement made, the security for the London Olympics WILL bring about a Dystopia.
Likewise, the summation at the end it's a drill for something "sinister" and the possible outcomes are "martial law" or a "police state".
And based on what, exactly? That an event of this significance is being prepared for appropriately?

I understand that people like to exercise their imaginations with conspiracy theories, but if other people are serious and not just using them as thought exercises then they're going to have to expect to deal with a level of criticism and using "hey, it's a conspiracy THEORY, duh" as a shield is a bit pointless, no?

And mostly, I'd still like to know if there's a level of security for the Olympics that would not be considered sinister and the justifications for that level being ok. Because that's the nub of this entire issue, really.

LeinsterDub

Torakx wrote: »

He think no because it would be too obvious and 9/11 and 7/7 were kind of randomly done with just interesting dates used instead.

Are you saying they carried out these false flags on these dates because they thought "hey these dates bare a passing resemblance to the emergency number and two 7's woo" ?

Torakx

Just that they were interesting dates to use.

to hooradiation:
I can only speak for myself and a general few,not all posters here.
I beleive most are accepting its a theory.Some belive more than others.
When we are speaking its already aknowledged and its much easier to be ivolved in the topic if you play the devils advocate.
We do it very well here.
I find imagining it true while talking about it,helps me to hone in on the more creative angles.
With that said when i leave this forum,i am not still thinking constantly on the Ct angle.
Although much of whats said in this tread that is CT related is also just as likely to happen in my view as the mainstream view.

For me everything just is how it is.There arent that many certainties even in alot of parts of science which relies on previously formed and proven ideas relating to the universe as we know it.

As we know it , may not be the full story if you follow quantum physics and such topics.
So i think alot of us here just keep an open mind.

What i find facinating is peoples need to remind posters that its just a theory.Who is so godly that they know anything for certain?
I dont go to other forums all the time and tell them they are all neurotic and misguided.
People arguing CT's on this forum should go somewhere and chat with people they have stuff in common with.
This is a discussion forum and i had always presumed it was mainly aimed at people who like to follow CT's and theories on the unknown.Not to debate its likelyhood.

Maybe we need a subsection for CT debate so the posters who enjoy denying the Ct is real can talk among themselves about how it cant be true.
Then people who enjoy CT's can have an actual Ct forum lol

LeinsterDub

Torakx wrote: »

Just that they were interesting dates to use.

How is 9/12 more interesting the 9/11 or 8/7 than 7/7?

clever_name

Torakx wrote: »

Just that they were interesting dates to use.

What makes them interesting?

Would it be the fact that major events happened on them? If either had happened a couple of months earlier then would 7/11 and 5/5 not be just as "interesting"?

Its like saying an Irish person born on the 17th March has something fishy going on;)

clever_name

LeinsterDub wrote: »

How is 9/12 more interesting the 9/11 or 8/7 than 7/7?

Well to be fair I think 9/11 is a very interesting date, I remember watching it on TV.

Torakx

You folks must be fascinated with numerology or something.
I simply mean they sound interesting.Kind of rhyme to hear and 9/11 reminds me of emergency. and 7/7 is interesting cause its the 7th day of the 7th month...its not a big deal.
I said they did it on a random day as appose to doing it on paddies day or some arabic holiday.

And yes 5/5 would to me have been just as interesting. why not 5/7 thats not interesting at all :P

LeinsterDub

So interesting in that they are entire uninteresting. I see.....

Torakx

you realise there was a national emergency in america on 9/11 right?
and that 911 is their emergency number?
I dont find that amazingly interesting,but its not so amazingly boring that i would change my words just to leave it out at the same time.

Not sure why everyone is so focused on the dates though.
Apparently that was the most interesting thing in the post i wrote first stating those dates.
Maybe a diversion tactic to avoid the 99% of the posts that didnt get any replies lol

Brown Bomber

clever_name wrote: »

What makes them interesting?

Would it be the fact that major events happened on them? If either had happened a couple of months earlier then would 7/11 and 5/5 not be just as "interesting"?

Its like saying an Irish person born on the 17th March has something fishy going on;)

I know it's not common knowledge but all religous mysticism have numbers at their foundations. If the attacks were planned by religous mystics, and I am not suggesting that they were, then it is more than likely that the dates of the attacks would've been pf high importance to them,

Run_to_da_hills

What the hell are they expecting.

Ground-to-air missiles are to be sited on the roof of a block of flats near the Olympic site as part of a huge security operation to protect the Games.

The Army will station soldiers and high-velocity surface-to-air missiles on the residential block in East London to ward off airborne terror threats. Residents in the private, gated flats in Bow have received a leaflet warning them that a team of ten soldiers and police will be placed at the building – home to 700 people – for the duration of this summer’s Games



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2136795/London-2012-Olympics-Surface-air-missiles-flats-huge-security-operation.html

Torakx

Their afraid the americans are going to crash another plane/missile... haha!

hooradiation

Just in case my question is getting lost amongst the other words i type

Run_to_da_hills, what level of security for the London Olympics you would not consider sinister, and why?

Monty Burnz

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

It looks to me that this could possibly be a drill for something more sinister. possibly a mock up for martial law or some false flag attack that will usher the police state. There is also the possibilities of a "cyber attack" blamed on "hackers" that could swiftly draft in a Euro CISPA.

So they competed for and won the Olympics nearly a decade ago - at a cost of billions - to organise a drill.

Yeah. Right.

Monty Burnz

hooradiation wrote: »

But what I find fascinating about the 'CT' angle is how often there are huge elements of dread and grim certainty attached to them.

And what is really odd is that even though 99% of the time their predictions are proved to be totally baseless rubbish, they bounce back time and again with new ridiculous doom-laden prophecies.

How did the pole-shift go, guys? I've been hiding in a cave with beans and shotguns the last year based on that prediction - I hope everyone survived it? :rolleyes:

Monty Burnz

Torakx wrote: »

you realise there was a national emergency in america on 9/11 right?

What happens when you dial 77 in Britain? Oh yeah. Nothing.

Priori

Brown Bomber wrote:

I know it's not common knowledge but all religous mysticism have numbers at their foundations. If the attacks were planned by religous mystics, and I am not suggesting that they were, then it is more than likely that the dates of the attacks would've been pf high importance to them,

At their foundation? All religious mysticism? Simplistic and completely misleading Brown Bomber. Actually, sorry, I'm being too generous: it's just wrong!

Brown Bomber wrote:

... and I am not suggesting that they were...

If that's not a direct suggestion, I'm not quite sure what is. Linking the two (religious mysticism and the instigation of acts of terrorism) in the above manner clearly displays an ignorance of the character of reported mytical experiences.

Torakx

Monty Burnz wrote: »

What happens when you dial 77 in Britain? Oh yeah. Nothing.

Thanks didnt realise that :P
Look at the context of the conversation.
I said it simply was interesting.not even noteworthy

Yakult

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

What the hell are they expecting.

Better to be prepared for the worst case scenario than nothing at all.

Monty Burnz

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

What the hell are they expecting.

Ground-to-air missiles are to be sited on the roof of a block of flats near the Olympic site as part of a huge security operation to protect the Games.

The Army will station soldiers and high-velocity surface-to-air missiles on the residential block in East London to ward off airborne terror threats. Residents in the private, gated flats in Bow have received a leaflet warning them that a team of ten soldiers and police will be placed at the building – home to 700 people – for the duration of this summer’s Games



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2136795/London-2012-Olympics-Surface-air-missiles-flats-huge-security-operation.html

Maybe they are afraid they will carry out another false flag terrorist attack on themselves with airplanes?

Torakx

Honestly..tell me how any al-qaida is going to get a hold of a plane within range to run it into european airspace?

Let alone american! Its ridiculous to consider it happening without inside help.

Monty Burnz

Torakx wrote: »

Honestly..tell me how any al-qaida is going to get a hold of a plane within range to run it into european airspace?

Well, Heathrow Airport is one of the busiest in the world. Then you've another 5 or 6 around London, plus another few of the busiest in the world within easy reach - Paris, Schipol, Frankfurt...no shortage of planes to hijack.

Torakx

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Well, Heathrow Airport is one of the busiest in the world. Then you've another 5 or 6 around London, plus another few of the busiest in the world within easy reach - Paris, Schipol, Frankfurt...no shortage of planes to hijack.

I agree there are alot of planes.
How would you hijack one?
A plastic gun like in that movie In the Line of Fire?
A plastic fork?
You couldnt even hide a plastic spoon up your ass with all the MRI type xrays they are doing over in england.

Ive been through customs before with all my outfit set out so it doesnt set off the metal detector and the feckers stilll hit some kind of button to make it go off so they can check my shoes lol

That was Germany but my point is we have enough security to stop an army or terrorists already.

Jonny7

Torakx wrote: »

Honestly..tell me how any al-qaida is going to get a hold of a plane within range to run it into european airspace?

Let alone american! Its ridiculous to consider it happening without inside help.

Not as ridiculous as the notion that the Americans did it to themselves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings

Monty Burnz

Torakx wrote: »

I agree there are alot of planes.
How would you hijack one?
A plastic gun like in that movie In the Line of Fire?
A plastic fork?
You couldnt even hide a plastic spoon up your ass with all the MRI type xrays they are doing over in england.

Ive been through customs before with all my outfit set out so it doesnt set off the metal detector and the feckers stilll hit some kind of button to make it go off so they can check my shoes lol

That was Germany but my point is we have enough security to stop an army or terrorists already.

Torakx

Thanks good vid.
Is it the case now that in london there are these body scanners withut metal detectors? i had presumed you go through both not just the body scanner.

Also being skeptical as i am, i would consider too that a "terrorist" getting through customs and taking a plane down would help solidify the UK and americans positions on homeland security more so and also the "war" in the east.

Infact seeign that video makes me think they may have wanted these scanners in for another false flag..hence the gap in security but also a massive amount of prevention around important targets.

Seems like a win win for a state wishing to control.
If a genuine person gets through and causes aplane to crash (which i dubt due to the amount of resources they have for intel) then they can beef up security with good reason.

If there is a hole in security that they should have spotted quite easily and some "terrorist" gets through..same scenario again.

I think though its much more likely a "terrorist" would be getting through to a previously known target,because of the amount of intel they would be able to collect.

It would look much better if the olypics had a failed attack on the news instead of a successfull one.
The fear anchor is already there from 9/11 and 7/7 s they only need to trigger it with a threat to make the massive security measures seem a relief to have..
Thank god we had those guns and police out.Imagine 7/7 times 2 omg!

Or maybe they are just trying to watch for real middle easterns who will try defend their homeland by killing the infidels..but i doubt it myself.

Remember there was holes in security during 9/11..those fighter jets took over an hour on just that one day because they "happened" to be on a "training drill"..damn how lucky were those terrorists to have picked that day!

Emme

Maybe it's just a macho display of British military power?

Run_to_da_hills

Emme wrote: »

Maybe it's just a macho display of British military power?

Its just history repeating itself with military propaganda in the run up to the New World Order.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNKlxcqLKcM

Monty Burnz

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Its just history repeating itself with military propaganda in the run up to the New World Order.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNKlxcqLKcM

Yes, I look forward to them parading the ground to air missiles at the Olympic opening ceremony...

Run_to_da_hills

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Yes, I look forward to them parading the ground to air missiles at the Olympic opening ceremony...

On the other hand they may be expecting a surprise visit from Barack Obama and will need all the extra security measures they can get.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dyns367ExE

Monty Burnz

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

On the other hand they may be expecting a surprise visit from Barack Obama and will need all the extra security measures they can get.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dyns367ExE

I imagine a visit from the Anti-Christ could really put a dampner on the mere mortals behind the NWO...

LeinsterDub

Torakx wrote: »

"training drill"..damn how lucky were those terrorists to have picked that day!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/witness/october/12/newsid_3665000/3665388.stm

Today we were unlucky, but remember we only have to be lucky once - you will have to be lucky always.

Emme

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

On the other hand they may be expecting a surprise visit from Barack Obama and will need all the extra security measures they can get.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dyns367ExE

Maybe Obama is going to run in some of the men's races - he'd have a good chance of winning.

Run_to_da_hills

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I imagine a visit from the Anti-Christ could really put a dampner on the mere mortals behind the NWO...

The Olympic Games would be perhaps the greatest opportunity for any up and coming dictator to express himself in front of the multitudes.

Monty Burnz

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The Olympic Games would be perhaps the greatest opportunity for any up and coming dictator to express himself in front of the multitudes.

Better than Youtube?

Torakx

Interesting video posted there.
Did you see the nazi symbol all over the outside of the stadium?

Kind of reminded me of the NWO symbolism on the currrent olympics.


And to the poster who mentioned a reply to mine regarding them only needing to be lucky once.

Well you have to admit, that kind of luck was a bit too lucky regarding the 9/11 air defence forces.
Any other day in that year and that plan would have been so fail that it would have been pointless to aim for that city at all.
Because i would think while one section is doing a training run there is always a back up...But oops that one time they just happened to send all available air defence in that area out at the same time,well out of reach.

Monty Burnz

Torakx wrote: »

Kind of reminded me of the NWO symbolism on the currrent olympics.

That sounds interesting - can you provide pictures or more information? Presumably this symbolism will have to have a loud, clear, unambiguous meaning like the Nazi swastikas that covered the stadium in Berlin if it is to play a similar role.

Jonny7

Torakx wrote: »

Kind of reminded me of the NWO symbolism on the currrent olympics.

Can you explain which countries, organisations, etc are in the NWO you are talking about.

Run_to_da_hills

Torakx wrote: »

Interesting video posted there.
Did you see the nazi symbol all over the outside of the stadium?

Kind of reminded me of the NWO symbolism on the currrent olympics.

The Olympic torch relay began as Nazi ritual who tried to turn the 1936 Berlin dames into a celebration of the Third Reich.



And it was Hitler's Nazi propaganda machine that popularized the five interlocking rings as the symbol of the Games.

Monty Burnz

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

And it was Hitler's Nazi propaganda machine that popularized the five interlocking rings as the symbol of the Games.

Interesting. But I'm not sure it really proves anything stated above?

Run_to_da_hills

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Interesting. But I'm not sure it really proves anything stated above?

The International Olympic Committee is clearly a globalist agenda. The IOC states that each ring symbolizes a continent representing the five continents of the world.

Hitlers agenda was to take over the world. The exact same agenda is on the minds of the corporate elite today so why bother change the symbol. Also do you ever wonder why so much money is pumped into this event while at the same time so many countries that are taking part are up to their teeth in financial debt?



Its obvious, the Olympic Games is a propaganda tool and playground for the corporate elite to display and promote their occult symbolism. Nothing has changed at all since 1936.

Monty Burnz

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The International Olympic Committee is clearly a globalist agenda. The IOC states that each ring symbolizes a continent representing the five continents of the world.

By definition, yes. The original idea was to unite people through sport. Now it seems mostly to be to enrich the corrupt members of the IOC, but that's another story.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Hitlers agenda was to take over the world. The exact same agenda is on the minds of the corporate elite today so why bother change the symbol.

When you say 'the corporate elite' do you mean the bosses of companies? So the boss of McDonalds, the ESB, Microsoft, Dennys Rashers, Blockbuster Video, Clonakilty Black Pudding - all of them? And do you feel that they want to completely crush human freedom like Hitler did? Why would they want to?

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Also do you ever wonder why so much money is pumped into this event while at the same time so many countries that are taking part are up to their teeth in financial debt?

Nope. Social prestige, political prestige, and hopes for a long-lasting positive legacy. Barcelona really marked its rebirth with the Olympics there. Various cities have done well or badly out of the Olympics. I can't imagine the Greeks feel so clever about blowing billions on theirs.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Its obvious, the Olympic Games is a propaganda tool and playground for the corporate elite to display and promote their occult symbolism. Nothing has changed at all since 1936.

Occult symbolism?

I think you should read The Golden Bough - I feel you would be astonished by it.

Torakx

Well consider today that propoganda and social engineering must also move ahead with the general intelligence and social awareness of the people.

With that in mind the symbolism pointed out by RTTH's shows the mascots with one eye and the pyramid with cap ston in lights all around the top of the stadium in the picture posted earlier.

That is what the nazi symbols reminded me of with the context of this thread in mind.

Monty Burnz

Torakx wrote: »

Well consider today that propoganda and social engineering must also move ahead with the general intelligence and social awareness of the people.

So they have to keep it quiet and unclear?

Torakx wrote: »

With that in mind the symbolism pointed out by RTTH's shows the mascots with one eye and the pyramid with cap ston in lights all around the top of the stadium in the picture posted earlier.

That is what the nazi symbols reminded me of with the context of this thread in mind.

Well the Nazis were blaring out their message and their identity in '36. Who is doing this in 2012, what identity are they proclaiming, and what is their message?

I suspect most of the messages from this Olympics will be very unsubtle ones coming from Nike, Toyota, McDonalds, Omega and all the other brands competing for our hard-earned cash.

Run_to_da_hills

Fighter planes at Northolt for the first time since WWII as elite RAF say they will shoot down passenger jets to protect Olympics

"RAF fighter jets landed at an air base in London today for a major military exercise to prepare the capital in case of a '9/11-type attack' during the Olympics. The four Typhoon aircraft touched down at RAF Northolt just before midday, marking the first time since World War Two that fighter planes have been stationed at the base. They will take to the skies over London and the home counties as part of Exercise Olympic Guardian, a nine-day training operation running from today until May 10."

The same old post 9/11 / 7/7 scare mongering tactics brought in by the corporate Elite that originally caused them in the first place. Anything possible just to put fear into the ordinary law abiding citizens of the UK.

"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it". Adolf Hitler

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2138488/Typhoon-fighter-planes-stationed-RAF-Northolt-Olympics-military-build-up.html