Fiscal Treaty Megathread [Poll Reset]

gerryo777 · 08-06-2012 1:14pm

Chucky the tree wrote: »

They probably don't want to even go to Mcdonalds for a treat as they'll just have you and Gerryo looking down your nose at them either.

Na, I only use the drive through section, couldn't be slumming it with the lower class.:rolleyes:

Chucky the tree · 08-06-2012 1:15pm

gerryo777 wrote: »

While your at it then, will you attack, with the same venom, our overpaid (compared to the rest of europe), pampered, insulated from the recession, still getting pay rises, bonuses and extra allowances, PS/CS class whose sense of entitlement is far worse than anyone unfortunate enough to find themselves out of a job?

I have done before. Don't see the need to do it for every single post I make. I'll also attack the private sector low paid workers who don't get taxed enough as well, they should be paying far more tax then they do.

gerryo777 · 08-06-2012 1:22pm

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I have done before. Don't see the need to do it for every single post I make. I'll also attack the private sector low paid workers who don't get taxed enough as well, they should be paying far more tax then they do.

Here's an idea.

Why doesn't everyone hand over all their wages to noonan & co and we can all get vouchers for the 'essentials' (mcdonalds etc) in return.

Brilliant TED!

Chucky the tree · 08-06-2012 1:32pm

gerryo777 wrote: »

Here's an idea.

Why doesn't everyone hand over all their wages to noonan & co and we can all get vouchers for the 'essentials' (mcdonalds etc) in return.

Brilliant TED!

Here's a better one. Why don't the Government just give people all the money they want so they can buy any and every item they desire. That way no one has to suffer austerity.

Brilliant TED!

gerryo777 · 08-06-2012 1:39pm

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Here's a better one. Why don't the Government just give people all the money they want so they can buy any and every item they desire. That way no one has to suffer austerity.

Brilliant TED!

That would cost too much.
I think my idea was better, thank god your not the minister for finance.:D

Muir · 08-06-2012 1:42pm

Just wondering what people think:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/business/fiscal-union-must-include-common-tax-base-juncker-196608.html

Happyman42 · 08-06-2012 1:47pm

Muir wrote: »

Just wondering what people think:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/business/fiscal-union-must-include-common-tax-base-juncker-196608.html

Vot ave we done, vot ave we done? :eek:

gerryo777 · 08-06-2012 1:49pm

Muir wrote: »

Just wondering what people think:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/business/fiscal-union-must-include-common-tax-base-juncker-196608.html

When push comes to shove, our low corporation tax rate will disappear as fast as a FG election manifesto promise.

It will then be 'spun' to suggest that it's better to have a 'universal CT rate', better for stability and better for jobs.

Same bull****e politicians, same bull****e rhetoric!

gerryo777 · 08-06-2012 1:53pm

Happyman42 wrote: »

Vot ave we done, vot ave we done? :eek:

Eventually, merkel will have what hitler coundn't have.......... full control of europe.

golden lane · 08-06-2012 1:54pm

gerryo777 wrote: »

When push comes to shove, our low corporation tax rate will disappear as fast as a FG election manifesto promise.

It will then be 'spun' to suggest that it's better to have a 'universal CT rate', better for stability and better for jobs.

Same bull****e politicians, same bull****e rhetoric!

irelands low corporation tax......is a big part of it's downfall.......

gerryo777 · 08-06-2012 1:55pm

golden lane wrote: »

irelands low corporation tax......is a big part of it's downfall.......

Expand please...

Chips Lovell · 08-06-2012 1:55pm

Common, consolidated corporate tax base is not the same thing as harmonised corporation tax.

Dave! · 08-06-2012 1:56pm

gerryo777 wrote: »

When push comes to shove, our low corporation tax rate will disappear as fast as a FG election manifesto promise.

It will then be 'spun' to suggest that it's better to have a 'universal CT rate', better for stability and better for jobs.

Same bull****e politicians, same bull****e rhetoric!

And the usual crowd will be telling us that Connolly and Pearse died so that we could have the lowest corporation tax in Europe... Rather than just discussing policies on their merits.

gerryo777 · 08-06-2012 2:13pm

Dave! wrote: »

And the usual crowd will be telling us that Connolly and Pearse died so that we could have the lowest corporation tax in Europe... Rather than just discussing policies on their merits.

Think you'll find they died so we could have our republic.

A republic being one where we, the people elect a government to do what they said they would do in their pre-election manifesto's.

We don't have that with FG/Lab.

baldbear · 08-06-2012 2:20pm

That lad is smoking garlic!

Dave! · 08-06-2012 2:27pm

gerryo777 wrote: »

Dave! wrote: »

And the usual crowd will be telling us that Connolly and Pearse died so that we could have the lowest corporation tax in Europe... Rather than just discussing policies on their merits.

Think you'll find they died so we could have our republic.

A republic being one where we, the people elect a government to do what they said they would do in their pre-election manifesto's.

We don't have that with FG/Lab.

Or with any government ever elected...

You must be new to democracy!

This thread has surely served its purpose now

baldbear · 08-06-2012 2:43pm

So rebels are firing on governement troops from christian areas hoping these areas will be destroyed and the christians leave.what a mess.

Happyman42 · 08-06-2012 2:53pm

baldbear wrote: »

So rebels are firing on governement troops from christian areas hoping these areas will be destroyed and the christians leave.what a mess.

In the Dail....coooool!!!!!

donegal_road · 08-06-2012 2:57pm

baldbear wrote: »

So rebels are firing on governement troops from christian areas hoping these areas will be destroyed and the christians leave.what a mess.

the whole thing has taken an interesting turn

Happyman42 · 08-06-2012 3:03pm

donegal_road wrote: »

the whole thing has taken an interesting turn

Enda goes postal on the Vatican? Or a Mick Wallace coup d'eat?:D

K-9 · 08-06-2012 3:13pm

Happyman42 wrote: »

It's called getting your priorities right. But how would you do that when your rationale tells you that those on the lower end of the scale are bottom feeding scum out to fiddle the state at every oppurtunity.
'Another pay rise their Enda? Please put your expenses sheet in the IN tray, just think of a number and multiply it!

And BTW, my point about SW was; the reason it would seem high to our European counterparts is that they are taking into account that the cost of living and taxes here is much higher. It is linked to the cost of living in the real world.

What in the name of God are you on about now Happyman.

Happyman42 · 08-06-2012 3:17pm

K-9 wrote: »

What in the name of God are you on about now Happyman.

Your skewed priorities.

Wibbs · 08-06-2012 3:28pm

K-9 wrote: »

What in the name of God are you on about now Happyman.

Indeed. Though we have fundamentally disagreed on a few points in the past, I've never heard you refer to anyone as bottom feeding scum. Must be reading another Boards.ie in a parallel universe where Scofflaw is a eurosceptic and I'm a woman.

Happyman42 · 08-06-2012 3:36pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Indeed. Though we have fundamentally disagreed on a few points in the past, I've never heard you refer to anyone as bottom feeding scum. Must be reading another Boards.ie in a parallel universe where Scofflaw is a eurosceptic and I'm a woman.

Where did I say K-9 said that?

K-9 · 08-06-2012 5:25pm

Happyman42 wrote: »

Where did I say K-9 said that?

My rationale leads you to that apparently, which is a very incorrect assumption as per usual.

Happyman42 · 08-06-2012 5:49pm

K-9 wrote: »

My rationale leads you to that apparently, which is a very incorrect assumption as per usual.

When I see people advocating cuts to SW before the wealthy are properly taxed then I have questions about their rationale.

EURATS · 08-06-2012 5:55pm

Happyman42 wrote: »

K-9 wrote: »

My rationale leads you to that apparently, which is a very incorrect assumption as per usual.

When I see people advocating cuts to SW before the wealthy are properly taxed then I have questions about their rationale.

When u have bono and co., and a huge portion of our wealthiest people living as tax exiles...it says it all.

Scofflaw · 08-06-2012 6:01pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Indeed. Though we have fundamentally disagreed on a few points in the past, I've never heard you refer to anyone as bottom feeding scum. Must be reading another Boards.ie in a parallel universe where Scofflaw is a eurosceptic and I'm a woman.

In a universe far, far away...

cordially,
Scofflaw

K-9 · 08-06-2012 7:08pm

Happyman42 wrote: »

When I see people advocating cuts to SW before the wealthy are properly taxed then I have questions about their rationale.

Don't know where you are getting that from either other than an overactive imagination!

K-9 · 09-06-2012 1:48am

Happyman42 wrote: »

When I see people advocating cuts to SW before the wealthy are properly taxed then I have questions about their rationale.

Well, I'd have to question your rationale at reaching those conclusions!

I've defended welfare recipients on threads, attacked the rationale of slashing welfare, proposed the sacred cow of raising Corporation Tax, moaned about the Government deciding Income tax is sacrosanct, many other things.

A rationale is at question here, definitely.

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