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A Question for those who paid the Household Charge

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    #212
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,492 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    marienbad wrote: »
    Still smaller than the jackboot that will descend on you for not paying :)

    Yes "jackboot" is a very appropriate word considering the Germans are putting it on poor wee Enda's neck and the wee lapdog is still smiling up at them waiting to be petted.


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    #213
    marienbad
    Registered Users Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Yes "jackboot" is a very appropriate word considering the Germans are putting it on poor wee Enda's neck and the wee lapdog is still smiling up at them waiting to be petted.

    Yeah, I though that might appeal to you, the fact that it is'nt true I suppose won't make a difference


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    #214
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Enright wrote: »
    has anything been done to the people who haven't paid yet? it a bit unfair to expect people to pay it again when such a large amount have yet to pay it once.

    We are to get letters apparently...... http://www.independent.ie/national-news/letter-plan-to-target-household-tax-dodgers-3126782.html

    It has taken them 2 months at least and they still haven't processed all those that have registered and paid the charge. So good luck rounding up the rest....


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    #215
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    mikom wrote: »
    We are to get letters apparently...... http://www.independent.ie/national-news/letter-plan-to-target-household-tax-dodgers-3126782.html

    It has taken them 2 months at least and they still haven't processed all those that have registered and paid the charge. So good luck rounding up the rest....

    Jesus, Gotta say I'm really bricking it now.... I might get a letter in the post!

    Soft, strong and thoroughly absorbing!!!


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    #216
    Hijpo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    dvpower wrote: »
    Hijpo wrote: »
    Obviously they will favour there own towns/upper class localities over others, lets be honest about it.
    Claptrap.
    Show me the evidence.

    Lol, what a fantastic come back. Its the government, surely thats evidence enough going on past experiences. Oh wait you want solid concrete proof of something that hasnt happend yet, clever boy.


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    #217
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Hijpo wrote: »
    Lol, what a fantastic come back. Its the government, surely thats evidence enough going on past experiences. Oh wait you want solid concrete proof of something that hasnt happend yet, clever boy.

    Can you give me the solid concrete proof of where the government, in the past, have diverted council funds to favour there own towns/upper class localities over others?


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    #218
    Hijpo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,787 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    dvpower wrote: »
    Hijpo wrote: »
    Lol, what a fantastic come back. Its the government, surely thats evidence enough going on past experiences. Oh wait you want solid concrete proof of something that hasnt happend yet, clever boy.

    Can you give me the solid concrete proof of where the government, in the past, have diverted council funds to favour there own towns/upper class localities over others?

    I can show you evidence of a dishonest, under handed, swindeling, dodgy dealing government and that line i read covering there actions on household tax spending opens the door for them to look after themselfs even more. To believe they wont take advantage of it is nonsence.


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    #219
    DoesNotCompute
    Registered Users Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭DoesNotCompute


    tayto lover wrote: »
    I'd suggest a fairer taxation. Listening to Joe Duffy the other day he stated that farmers pay less than 1% of the total tax take. Nobody contradicted his figures and I don't know where he got those figures from but if he's right then the country reeks of favouritism. There are many farmers driving around in 30k plus Mercs. They seem to be getting life very easy. Their children get free education grants etc while they get most of the European grant money.

    Hitting the same people for everything will not work. Its time to spread the tax net.

    You lost me at Joe Duffy...


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    #220
    DoesNotCompute
    Registered Users Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭DoesNotCompute


    Enright wrote: »
    has anything been done to the people who haven't paid yet?

    Big Phil was on about it today, saying Local Authorities will soon start sending out letters. Hopefully Rich Boy Barrett and Mick the Wally will be first up against the wall.


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    #221
    Anna Nicole
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭Anna Nicole


    tayto lover wrote: »
    I'd suggest a fairer taxation. Listening to Joe Duffy the other day he stated that farmers pay less than 1% of the total tax take. Nobody contradicted his figures and I don't know where he got those figures from but if he's right then the country reeks of favouritism. There are many farmers driving around in 30k plus Mercs. They seem to be getting life very easy. Their children get free education grants etc while they get most of the European grant money.

    Hitting the same people for everything will not work. Its time to spread the tax net.

    I dunno where your farmers are but they are not round my part of the country. ' they seem to get life very easy?' as opposed to who? People on the dole sitting on the jacks all day, popping out children and getting all paid for from uniforms to medical cards? And I'm not talking about the people who are in the unfortunate situation these days that would love to work, I'm talking about the people who didn't work even when it was plentiful


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    #222
    Zamboni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    DoesNotCompute wrote: »
    Big Phil was on about it today, saying Local Authorities will soon start sending out letters.

    It will be fascinating to see who the letters do and don't go to.
    A very public display of records kept by inter departmental civil servants will be out for everyone to see.
    I for one, am extremely confident in our civil service/ public sector employees that those records will be very accurate and complete :pac:

    I actually envisage a lot of dead people receiving letters for starters...


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    #223
    DoesNotCompute
    Registered Users Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭DoesNotCompute


    Zamboni wrote: »
    I actually envisage a lot of dead people receiving letters for starters...

    I doubt it, all they have to do is check with the General Registrar's Office to see if the person in question is deceased or not.


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    #224
    Zamboni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    DoesNotCompute wrote: »
    I doubt it, all they have to do is check with the General Registrar's Office to see if the person in question is deceased or not.

    I know. It sounds so simple :)


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    #225
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    DoesNotCompute wrote: »
    I doubt it, all they have to do is check with the General Registrar's Office to see if the person in question is deceased or not.

    *flashback to a few months back when all the pensioners got the scary revenue letters*
    The Revenue Commissioners last week wrote to 150,000 people, warning 115,000 of them that they might owe more tax than they thought. Even though they were factually correct, they handled the entire exercise so badly that they created a major embarrassment and unnecessarily frightened the vast majority of recipients who owe little or nothing in the way of extra tax. By their own admission, the number of people likely to owe anything significant is probably a few thousand. On top of this, they wrote to thousands of people who have no pensions or who are still in work.

    As a consequence of the mass mailing, the Revenue has had to set up a help line to explain the situation to frightened pensioners. Cabinet ministers have made public statements about it. It occupies the top slot in the news.
    http://bocktherobber.com/2012/01/revenue-letter-to-pensioners-presents-opportunity-for-better-communication-between-government-and-people/


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    #226
    flutered
    Registered Users Posts: 6,668 ✭✭✭flutered


    DoesNotCompute wrote: »
    I doubt it, all they have to do is check with the General Registrar's Office to see if the person in question is deceased or not.

    happy days for some of the public service, overtime or other perks, wondering will it be akin to the passport saga of recent times, oh yeah, when their own names and addys appear, will they dissapear thro the cracks in the floorboards.


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    #227
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    DoesNotCompute wrote: »
    Big Phil was on about it today, saying Local Authorities will soon start sending out letters. Hopefully Rich Boy Barrett and Mick the Wally will be first up against the wall.

    I wonder does James Reilly pay the €100 on his luxurious country home which is grant funded by the taxpayer?


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    #228
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    dvpower wrote: »
    Can you give me the solid concrete proof of where the government, in the past, have diverted council funds to favour there own towns/upper class localities over others?

    Solid, concrete proof an any favouritism / wrongdoing by anyone in public office seems really hard to come by in our little country.

    Masters of the art of corruption, they cover their tracks well.

    Mind you, while they are the legislators, it's hardly surprising that no 'crimes' are committed.


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    #229
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,492 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    DoesNotCompute wrote: »
    You lost me at Joe Duffy...

    I thought that might happen to you alright :rolleyes:


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    #230
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    tayto lover wrote: »
    I thought that might happen to you alright :rolleyes:

    Should change his username to CanNotCompute......:D or even better WillNotCompute....


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    #231
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,492 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Anna Nicole wrote: »
    I dunno where your farmers are but they are not round my part of the country. ' they seem to get life very easy?' as opposed to who? People on the dole sitting on the jacks all day, popping out children and getting all paid for from uniforms to medical cards? And I'm not talking about the people who are in the unfortunate situation these days that would love to work, I'm talking about the people who didn't work even when it was plentiful[/QUOTE

    Farmers are not immune from freebies either, grants from Europe, education etc.
    I do agree with you on the rest of your post though.


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    #232
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    dvpower wrote: »
    Can you give me the solid concrete proof of where the government, in the past, have diverted council funds to favour there own towns/upper class localities over others?
    Hijpo wrote: »
    I can show you evidence of a dishonest, under handed, swindeling, dodgy dealing government and that line i read covering there actions on household tax spending opens the door for them to look after themselfs even more. To believe they wont take advantage of it is nonsence.
    gerryo777 wrote: »
    Solid, concrete proof an any favouritism / wrongdoing by anyone in public office seems really hard to come by in our little country.

    Masters of the art of corruption, they cover their tracks well.

    Mind you, while they are the legislators, it's hardly surprising that no 'crimes' are committed.
    I'll take that as a No.


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    #233
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    dvpower wrote: »
    I'll take that as a No.

    Thought you would ok.


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    #234
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    DoesNotCompute wrote: »
    Big Phil was on about it today, saying Local Authorities will soon start sending out letters. Hopefully Rich Boy Barrett and Mick the Wally will be first up against the wall.

    I wouldn't be surprised at all if the charge on Barrett's residence paid by its owners - his parents.

    Potential shades of Noel Edmond's "I don't have a TV licence" / BBC TVL - "There is a TV licence issued for his property" thing here. Person making the campaign claim doesn't pay for it themselves, but it gets paid none the less.


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