Eircom eFibre VDSL/FTTC rollout – plans to reach 1.6m premises by mid 2016

bk

Praetorian wrote: »

The roll out certainly seems to be slowing down that's for sure!

Perhaps a sign that they are switching focus to rolling out FTTH?

There are only so many install teams after all. Though that would suck for more rural users. Slower rollout of VDSL to them while urban people who already have VDSL start getting FTTH.

ED E

I'd hazard a guess that they may be prepping for exchange VDSL which will draw teams back to previously enabled areas to do "fill in" work, delaying the new areas.

Praetorian

ED E, Even a few months ago engineers that I know told me a lot of exchanges were complete! But you could be right. If I were in charge of the roll out I would be also concentrating on the exchange fed lines. The numbers of customers they reach is significant.

Could be budget constraints or equipment procurement problems.

BK, also could be FTTH!

It's important to battle with UPC with the exchange fed lines, to counter the Voda / Esb threat & now perhaps the widespread fttc rollout will take 3rd place in Eircom's master-plan!

Zack Morris

Does anyone know what's the line length limit for eVDSL? I know that it's 2km if you're connected to cabinet.

ED E

Praetorian wrote: »

ED E, Even a few months ago engineers that I know told me a lot of exchanges were complete! But you could be right. If I were in charge of the roll out I would be also concentrating on the exchange fed lines. The numbers of customers they reach is significant.

Could be budget constraints or equipment procurement problems.

Its not the DSLAM racking jobs I was referring to, its the customer premises works that take the real time. Once eVDSL goes live in an area that could be anywhere from 500-2000 appointments for KNN to fulfil, that'll be the real holdup.

Gonzo

Zack Morris wrote: »

Does anyone know what's the line length limit for eVDSL? I know that it's 2km if you're connected to cabinet.

I think its about 800meters to 1km. Don't think vectoring will be enabled so range limit should be half of that of the cabinets.

marno21

Is it just me or do all the rural exchanges still say Jan-June 16 on the map?

May-June 2015 was added also albeit no exchanges have been planned for this period yet

ED E

Gonzo wrote: »

I think its about 800meters to 1km. Don't think vectoring will be enabled so range limit should be half of that of the cabinets.

Its viable up to 1500m+, lower speeds but still works. Vectoring doesnt double the range, not by a long shot.

jamieh

Is anyone in the same situation as me? ...According to the eFibre map it's available in my area (a few km from Cork city center on the Boreenmanna Road), but it doesn't appear to be available on my stretch of houses.

Eircom can't provide any additional information so I guess I'm stuck with my 10mb broadband and no timelines for eFibre?

ED E

jamieh wrote: »

Is anyone in the same situation as me? ...According to the eFibre map it's available in my area (a few km from Cork city center on the Boreenmanna Road), but it doesn't appear to be available on my stretch of houses.

Eircom can't provide any additional information so I guess I'm stuck with my 10mb broadband and no timelines for eFibre?

Been done to death here. Dont use the eircom.net map, its just a guesstimate. Check fibrerollout.ie for a map of actual cabs.

If you're close to the exchange and/or on a main road then theres a reasonable chance you are direct fed, which there is another thread about. At 10Mb fibre may not benefit you though in that circumstance as you'll be too far away.

MBSnr

marno21 wrote: »

Is it just me or do all the rural exchanges still say Jan-June 16 on the map?

May-June 2015 was added also albeit no exchanges have been planned for this period yet

Until today about half the rural areas were coloured red with Apr-Jun 2015 against them. Today they are cyan and pushed back to Jul - Dec 15. (I only noticed my area, which was red, is now cyan). It seems that they may have added more areas to the map (seems 'fuller' to my eye) and slid 6 months on the dates.

marno21

MBSnr wrote: »

Until today about half the rural areas were coloured red with Apr-Jun 2015 against them. Today they are cyan and pushed back to Jul - Dec 15. (I only noticed my area, which was red, is now cyan). It seems that they may have added more areas to the map (seems 'fuller' to my eye) and slid 6 months on the dates.

Ah apologies, I have been checking the map daily with quite a while and they have been cyan since Friday so I was wondering if there was a further change I was missing

Likely there will be movement with a lot of those dates anyway as many of them are provisional and vague

MBSnr

marno21 wrote: »

Ah apologies, I have been checking the map daily with quite a while and they have been cyan since Friday so I was wondering if there was a further change I was missing

Likely there will be movement with a lot of those dates anyway as many of them are provisional and vague

Ahh yes makes sense - They must have made the change late last wk. I didn't notice until today anyhow

marno21

Yep Friday it was all changed.. Keeping an eye out for updates, my exchange was added (one of the purple ones) for Jan-June 16.. waiting for them to update fibrerollout.ie now as that is more detailed

markmurphy

Zack Morris wrote: »

Does anyone know what's the line length limit for eVDSL? I know that it's 2km if you're connected to cabinet.

Depends. Its 1.2Km where I live. It went live a week ago. I checked a few houses in the local area. 1.2km is the max around here.

I'm about 760m from cab, said I can get 25 meg. BUT, just up the road 100m away, its down to 15 meg.

M.

kaizersoze

markmurphy wrote: »

Depends. Its 1.2Km where I live. It went live a week ago. I checked a few houses in the local area. 1.2km is the max around here.

I'm about 760m from cab, said I can get 25 meg. BUT, just up the road 100m away, its down to 15 meg.

M.

He's referring to eVDSL. It's exchange based, not cabinet. It'll service lines connected directly to the exchange. Speeds and distance are supposed to be lower than cab based.

markmurphy

kaizersoze wrote: »

He's referring to eVDSL. It's exchange based, not cabinet. It'll service lines connected directly to the exchange. Speeds and distance are supposed to be lower than cab based.

erm, you could be right..

The "Green Boxes". They stick around the place. Why? Whats the difference?
if your close to them you get 100 meg downloads. Why are they deploying other stuff now?


M.

ED E

markmurphy wrote: »

erm, you could be right..

The "Green Boxes". They stick around the place. Why? Whats the difference?
if your close to them you get 100 meg downloads. Why are they deploying other stuff now?


M.

The green boxes are "cabinets". Theyre added onto existing copper cabinets. For people who's line doesnt go through an existing copper cabinet the new fibre gear goes in the exchange instead. Thats eVDSL.

markmurphy

ED E wrote: »

The green boxes are "cabinets". Theyre added onto existing copper cabinets. For people who's line doesnt go through an existing copper cabinet the new fibre gear goes in the exchange instead. Thats eVDSL.

So your connected to the local exchange directly? using copper wire?

M.

murphaph

markmurphy wrote: »

So your connected to the local exchange directly? using copper wire?

Yes.

DeJa VooDoo

Quick one lads and lassies.
I'm about 2.5k from my local exchange and have Sky broadband.
I get 2 meg on a good day, sometimes as low as 0.5 meg.
I'm between two towns and last year the crews laid a new cable right past my house, underground.
I asked them and they said it is the fibre cable between the two towns.
My existing phone wire comes in from a poll across the road.
Will eircom need to install roadside boxes close to me to 'boost' the signal and can I ask eircom to connect me to the new cable even though my phone and broadband are with Sky?
Sorry in advance if this comes across as a bit confusing.

ED E

Thats core network fibre, you wont be connected to it.

Best hope you have is eircom installing a cabinet in the middle of a cluster of houses nearby. If you're out in the stix with no home close together then you're **** outta luck.

DeJa VooDoo

ED E wrote: »

Thats core network fibre, you wont be connected to it.

Best hope you have is eircom installing a cabinet in the middle of a cluster of houses nearby. If you're out in the stix with no home close together then you're **** outta luck.

There's a new estate about 500 meters away on the opposite side of the road and they get 60-80 meg.
On our side of the road theres a few houses well spaced out though.
Who would be best to contact considering we're with Sky and the network is eircom's?
Thanks again.

mobil 222

ED E wrote: »

The green boxes are "cabinets". Theyre added onto existing copper cabinets. For people who's line doesnt go through an existing copper cabinet the new fibre gear goes in the exchange instead. Thats eVDSL.

Can someone tell me why last year cabinets were set up on direct line feeds
in some towns
I know for a fact that I am on a direct feed line from the local exchange ...distance about 6km .I have a speed of around 1.7mb which surprisingly is
quite stable with some xbmc programmes possible

Of the 6 km , 4 km is underground with the rest overhead.
200 pair cable feeds as far as the distribution pole where overhead starts. This cable is a direct feed cable from the exchange.

Last September a fibre was ran all the way out to this point and both Copper
and Fibre cabinets set up which leaves me 2.2 km from this cab position.

So it seems that eVDSL will be used in smaller exchange locations and in the
bigger towns where planning permission has been a problem in setting up
on a direct feed cable

The one thing that I take out of all of this is that I like a lot more people
will never get efibre or eVDSL because even though we are connected to
a big exchange area we are yet to far out.

jayo26

I'm right in the middle of wexford town I can see a green cabinet from my house and all the estates around us have 50mb efibre apart from our estate surely it cant be that hard to do it all at once.

ED E

DeJa VooDoo wrote: »

There's a new estate about 500 meters away on the opposite side of the road and they get 60-80 meg.
On our side of the road theres a few houses well spaced out though.
Who would be best to contact considering we're with Sky and the network is eircom's?
Thanks again.

Have you checked your number to be sure you arent eligible?

http://www.eircom.net/totalbundle#prequalWidget

If you arent, then you could be direct fed. See explanation above.

mobil 222 wrote: »

Can someone tell me why last year cabinets were set up on direct line feeds
in some towns

Seems to have happened a bit. BT call it network re-arrangement. Its more work and disruption than the "passive" VDSL beside CCP system.

jayo26 wrote: »

I'm right in the middle of wexford town I can see a green cabinet from my house and all the estates around us have 50mb efibre apart from our estate surely it cant be that hard to do it all at once.

Your existing lines (probably from the 70s) run a different way. There may be more cabs to come for your area or you may need to wait for another solution (network re-arrangement or FTTH).

jayo26

ED E wrote: »

Have you checked your number to be sure you arent eligible?

http://www.eircom.net/totalbundle#prequalWidget

If you arent, then you could be direct fed. See explanation above.




Seems to have happened a bit. BT call it network re-arrangement. Its more work and disruption than the "passive" VDSL beside CCP system.



Your existing lines (probably from the 70s) run a different way. There may be more cabs to come for your area or you may need to wait for another solution (network re-arrangement or FTTH).

Yhh they are old lines alright its just so frustrating. Unfortunately there is no other reliable solution here

markmurphy

ED E wrote: »

The green boxes are "cabinets". Theyre added onto existing copper cabinets. For people who's line doesnt go through an existing copper cabinet the new fibre gear goes in the exchange instead. Thats eVDSL.

ah ha!

I see. So why don't they enable the exchanges? Why the delay? I'd imagine they do those first? Any of them done yet?

M.

mass_debater

markmurphy wrote: »

ah ha!

I see. So why don't they enable the exchanges? Why the delay? I'd imagine they do those first? Any of them done yet?

M.

Red tape, because other providers have their own gear in exchanges everything must be documented and get approval from Comreg. There are trials, I know Westport exchange is one.

Manc Red

LOL

Second time in the past year it has done this. I'm currently getting around 12Mb with ADSL.

Why does it do this?