kk.man wrote: » I'd say mid June and not last long.
foundation10 wrote: » Listening to Creed on Radio 1 today there are 12 plants with CV affecting 600 workers. This situation is serious and needs action before it goes out of control. No individual factory are willing to confirm the number of cases and using MII as their voice. Between the processors, MII and HSE a solution to this needs to be agreed and actioned immediately before more lives and livelihoods are put at risk. The processors appear to have been lax on this but if plants start being closed down by officials the s**t will hit the fan and we will be all down with it.
wrangler wrote: » Yet it's farmers and vote seeking politicians that are pushing closures...... you couldn't make it up really Coveney said today that it was being dealt with, provided they're satisfied with it, that's all we need
tabby aspreme wrote: » Listening to world report on RTE this morning, there are serious problems in America with meat factories, 14,000 staff with Covid, factories ordered to stay working by government, shortages of meat in the shops, and farmers stuck with animals they can't sell, particularly bad with pig and poultry sectors.
foundation10 wrote: » Correct, and this has been flagged for quite a while. Why our processing sector did not take note of this I don't know and they potentially could have been ahead of the curve.
morphy87 wrote: » So what do you think the price will settle at the end of August?
kk.man wrote: » I honestly don't know but I can't see processors spoiling farmers with 4 euro (false hope and all). They will fall again of course but how much and how long will depend on our very changed world.
wrangler wrote: » This is a joke ffs, they haven't been closed down, The virus didn't come from the meat, someone was careless and didn't take precautions and will again and again no matter what the processors regs are.
richie123 wrote: » Beef consumption levels in our biggest market the UK we're back 13 %last year Greta thunberg/climate/veganism will be back in focus after virus.the future does not look bright for beef in general..
Duke92 wrote: » That’s rubbish I bet if you looked up where ever you got that it would be a report by a vegan website I’ve yet to meet a Greta thunberg supporter
richie123 wrote: » I meant to add this screenshot in my last reply
Bass Reeves wrote: » If we look at the Leaving cert cancellation politician in opposition obviously had there contacts in the Department and the HSE. They got wind that there would be cancellation of the Leaving Cert. They were then seen to be ahead of Government and making policy. I be afraid of something similar here. Neither Government or the HSE are going to allow processing units to become cluster of infection which could spread the virus. You are technically incorrect it came from a wet market in China or are you like Trump trying to make out the Chinese caused it from lab testing. It not someone was careless it seemed to carelessness right across a number of processors. They continued on as if everything was the same and did not put processes and procedures in place to minimize the risks
wrangler wrote: » So it's on the beef now, jasus you guys'll do say anything to close the factories. Locals here know exactly where the problem is
wrangler wrote: » So it's on the beef now, jasus you guys'll do anything to close the factories. Locals here know exactly where the problem is
Bass Reeves wrote: » No I did not say that what I did say was you were incorrect in saying it did not come from meat. What I did say is that it originated from a meat source. Because of that we have to be careful that nothing happens to endanger the industry. You are of the old IFA attitude of sweeping everything under the table and hoping everything will be alright on the day. None of us want factories closed however there is a huge risk by carelessness by management within the industry we could arrive in that situation. So stop trying to make out just because people are critical of where we have arrived at by carelessness by processing management that we are trying to close factories. Processors have a habit of endangering the industry multiple times themselves.
wrangler wrote: » There won't be a bother on them, they've a lot more to lose than any farmers, they're not fools
Bass Reeves wrote: » Arrogance can be as much of a problem as stupidity. Arrogance causes people not to listen to advice and to blame other and not to look at the broader picture. Processors were dealing with a workforce of which English is not there main language. They also would not be watching to advice regarding Covid from an Irish sources. Many would be getting there information from media sources from there own countries. I posted earlier that it is part of the H&S legislation that workers are advised and informed in there own language. The construction industry for instance has safe pass courses completed in Russian, Polish, Lithuanian or even Romanian. It would have been critical to put the information into workers in there own languages. Many of these workers came from Brazil. The Brazilian Government took a laissez faire attitude to Covid and now are overwhelmed with it. There fore it would have been critical to inform workers of the issue and to have processes and procedures in place to manage distancing within the factories
memorystick wrote: » Are they up this week?
wrangler wrote: » Apost from another forum in case you mightn't believe me, '' Some shocking stuff about migrant workers behaviour given on local radio by a migrant worker. People who have been diagnosed with covid 19 out and about doing everyday things. Bringing kids to parks to play, shopping in local supermarkets, visiting churches, collecting food from takeaways. It's going to be a long road yet till we are all safe.''
Duke92 wrote: » Yes had a guy doing a bit for me 2 Weeks ago He’s not to worried has no old relations here and thinks he’ll be grand
